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Eric Dier has emerged as England's midfield linchpin in last two months.
Read the full article at Daily Mail
Read the full article at Daily Mail
Yeh , so Dier continues to big up the Spurs madness of the Chelski-Spurs match .
We lost a very important player in that match and proceeded to lose our remaining games after it .
Further it baffles everyone that Dier himself wasn't sent off along with Lamela...and poss Walker . The Spurs players' behaviour that day was suicidal for our club . Nothing to be proud of...something to forget and see doesn't re-occur.
The 'Fighting Spirit' everyone is so proud of saw us lay down and take it up the arse in the next two matches .
This macho man posturing about that match from so many inside the Spurs bubble.....Yuk .
By all means leave the Spurs bubble thenYeh , so Dier continues to big up the Spurs madness of the Chelski-Spurs match .
We lost a very important player in that match and proceeded to lose our remaining games after it .
Further it baffles everyone that Dier himself wasn't sent off along with Lamela...and poss Walker . The Spurs players' behaviour that day was suicidal for our club . Nothing to be proud of...something to forget and see doesn't re-occur.
The 'Fighting Spirit' everyone is so proud of saw us lay down and take it up the arse in the next two matches .
This macho man posturing about that match from so many inside the Spurs bubble.....Yuk .
The sad thing is we had nothing to prove in that respect.
England might need some streetwise attitude with an intelligent edge
whatever that means
but Spurs certainly didn't and don't.
Though with Deli and Wayne around I wouldn't have thought so.
22 and learning the game needs to listen more and keep quiet.
I think it's precisely what we need as opposed to losing the plot like we did at Stamford Bridge. Chelsea and Utd in particular have honed the art of pre match wind ups, surrounding Refs and intimidating opponents, officials, the media and anybody else who they fancy a pop at. We've been too meek and mild for decades but at least now our opponents will know that we have attitude in our locker. The challenge will be using it to our advantage.
You really want all that non,anti football stuff?.
We hate Chelsea precisely because of all that.
It gets in the way of the football.
We were out playing Chelsea at half time
and chucked it all away for nothing.
Spare me all that pathetic posturing please
and continue to concentrate on playing football.
What on earth does it all mean.
Committing clever fouls, behind the ref's back perhaps
It's all a nonsense and sounds more like
13 career reds Mauricio winding them up at half time at Chelsea
‘Tottenham are trying to get rid of a certain image at the moment and I think that (game against Chelsea) helped.
Well it didn't help our challenge for the league it completely threw us.
Certainly helped advertise that if opponents need to they can wind us up
and stop us doing what we really have a reputation for, and history of
playing attractive entertaining football with classy players.
we were challenging for the title and lost our heads.
This stuff is difficult to control once the genie is out of the bottle.
See Moussa Dembele.
Lets hope it doesn't affect our start to the season.
I know what Dave Mackay would say.
With respect, @Gilzeanking and @JimmyG2, you appear to have skimmed the article/interview and reacted only to what we already know has annoyed you. Under 20% of the content which directly quotes Dier concerns the Chelsea game, and even then he doesn't advocate we repeat it. It's mostly about his experience of football outside England, which, despite his youth, is considerably more than any other Englishman. You discredit him.
No at all, I think he is a good player with great prospects
but needs to concentrate on other aspects of his limited game
other than playing the hard man.
He discredits a fine club by claiming to have uncovered
the secret of our past failures
and thereby tarnishes the memories of great players of the past.
Ironic in the context of the Chelsea game
where he was fortunate to be still on the pitch
and his collection of yellow cards last season
is no credit to him.
Unlike Mackay who had a fine disciplinary record
one red and never sufficient yellows to attract a suspension
as he proudly boasted.
Sorry, Jimmy, but this still reads as though you're reacting to a selective reading of the leader piece. As an experiment, but try reading the article without the headline and the last couple of paragraphs, and remember that Dier didn't know how he'd be presented.No at all, I think he is a good player with great prospects
but needs to concentrate on other aspects of his limited game
other than playing the hard man.
He discredits a fine club by claiming to have uncovered
the secret of our past failures
and thereby tarnishes the memories of great players of the past.
Ironic in the context of the Chelsea game
where he was fortunate to be still on the pitch
and his collection of yellow cards last season
is no credit to him.
Unlike Mackay who had a fine disciplinary record
one red and never sufficient yellows to attract a suspension
as he proudly boasted.
‘I think international football is a bit different,’ he said. 'I grew up in Portugal where it’s quite similar and I don’t think it’s as aggressive, it’s got more of an intelligent edge.
‘I think it’s important that we have that. There’s a lot of European and international teams have that intelligent edge as much as an aggressive edge in the things they do.
‘We’ve got to be like that, too. By intelligent I mean they don’t think they go round kicking people. They win fouls in clever places on the pitch, they keep possession, they know how to wind people up, they know how agitate people. We can’t fall for that.
‘We can learn from that. Streetwise is the perfect way to put it. European teams and nations are like that. I think the English are a bit too honest, hard working at times. We need to be clever but we don’t want to lose that English attitude either.’
Well said that man! My sentiments exactlyThere is an interesting debate going on here, but it isn't based on the article, it's based on the misleading headline. Read the whole thing. He's advocating the opposite of what some people are getting annoyed about:
It was mostly theatre to be fair - no-one got hurt. Great viewing, but it did not reflect well on us.Where I'm differing from some posters is that , for instance , if we see another club's player stand on a players hand we both think it bad .
If we see a Spurs player do it. For me , that's twice as bad and embarrassing , while for some others the tribalism kicks in and the Spurs player doing it is fine .
...and in the most psychopathic posters its actually a source of pride .
All this on top of taking a massive risk of damaging the team by being sent off or banned .
Good how the team fought for each other that night , but the excesses were insanely stupid .