ENIC...

[sausage]

They've signed Willian on a free and look to be adding a player for a fairly modest fee while selling a player the manager allegedly wanted to keep in order to recoup most of the money. That's identical business to us so far (except José didn't want to keep KWP).

For some reason, lots of places (and people) are looking at Saliba like he's a new signing and, for some bizarre reason, aren't reporting that he is just returning from a loan after they signed him a year ago (and probably in a daft long term payment plan at that).

Transfers really annoy me because they seem to be the focal point for people, yet few seem to bother to look up any details before working themselves up in a wild frenzy.

The window will be judged when it closes, because we don't yet know who these teams will start the season without.


What especially annoys me is that it should be "look at team x bringing through another top talent, whilst we have to go paying some other club a fortune because we have no one decent in our academy. How embarrassing". Of course, Sky have turned transfers into something that is often seen as more important than kicking the ball itself.

 

[dk-yid]

I was at work today and played a game of footie afterwards... What have I missed?

 

[HodisGawd]

This thread is pathetic. Have we been infiltrated by Chelsea fans?

 

[RichieS]

For some reason, lots of places (and people) are looking at Saliba like he's a new signing and, for some bizarre reason, aren't reporting that he is just returning from a loan after they signed him a year ago (and probably in a daft long term payment plan at that).

Transfers really annoy me because they seem to be the focal point for people, yet few seem to bother to look up any details before working themselves up in a wild frenzy.

The window will be judged when it closes, because we don't yet know who these teams will start the season without.


What especially annoys me is that it should be "look at team x bringing through another top talent, whilst we have to go paying some other club a fortune because we have no one decent in our academy. How embarrassing". Of course, Sky have turned transfers into something that is often seen as more important than kicking the ball itself.

I can remember a time when the prevailing tabloid opinion was that the amount of money involved in football transfers was obscene. In the time it took Spurs to go from the very definition of mid-table to the Champions League final in an organic way, that opinion has completely reversed. Frustrating!

 

[Metalhead]

I was at work today and played a game of footie afterwards... What have I missed?

ENIC being embarrassing.

 

[dk-yid]

ENIC being embarrassing.

Gotcha. Thanks. ??

 

[Sweech]

Everytime our rivals spend money our fans throw their toys out the pram.

I wonder if the fun annual game of people losing their shit because “West Ham are going to go above us” because they’ve signed a handful of players that had media hype but they’ve never actually watched play.

 

[Danny1]

What exactly is this. ?.

Ah all of our rivals signing players:

- Arsenal -Willian free transfer.
- Man Utd - Not one player.
- Liverpool - some Greek left back.
- Chelsea - Werner and Ziyech.
- Wolves - Not one player.
- Leicester - Not one player.
- Us - PEH and Hart.

Not quite sure what point you are trying to make.

 

[fridgemagnet]

 

[sausage]

What exactly is this. ?.

Ah all of our rivals signing players:

- Arsenal -Willian free transfer.
- Man Utd - Not one player.
- Liverpool - some Greek left back.
- Chelsea - Werner and Ziyech.
- Wolves - Not one player.
- Leicester - Not one player.
- Us - PEH and Hart.

Not quite sure what point you are trying to make.

Absolute reality.

Spurs forums: "Everyone is signing players but us - why does it take us so long? Why can't we be like other clubs ffs"

Other club's fans on their forums: "Everyone is signing players but us - why does it take us so long? Why can't we be like other clubs ffs"

 

[rossdapep]

Everytime our rivals spend money our fans throw their toys out the pram.

It's rather ridiculous isn't it?

We live in an age now where gloating has now slipped into who has made the 'bigger' signing. So I imagine a lot of our fans are getting pissy because their Chelsea mates are lording it over them.

However, look at last summer. We spent about 150m, Chelsea spent nothing. Chelsea finished higher.

Here's another revelation, Chelsea will always spend mega amounts because they are owned by a oligarch who treats it as a play thing. After all this time, I can't understand why people still feel the need to get annoyed about it. It's not gunna change.

Whilst I get pretty wound up about Levy and ENIC not going that extra mile sometimes and leaving things last minute, you can't compare us to Chelsea.

 

[sausage]

It's rather ridiculous isn't it?

We live in an age now where gloating has now slipped into who has made the 'bigger' signing. So I imagine a lot of our fans are getting pissy because their Chelsea mates are lording it over them.

However, look at last summer. We spent about 150m, Chelsea spent nothing. Chelsea finished higher.

Here's another revelation, Chelsea will always spend mega amounts because they are owned by a oligarch who treats it as a play thing. After all this time, I can't understand why people still feel the need to get annoyed about it. It's not gunna change.

Whilst I get pretty wound up about Levy and ENIC not going that extra mile sometimes and leaving things last minute, you can't compare us to Chelsea.

I find it a shame that the effort, unnecessarily decadent detail, and execution of the stadium already counts for absolutely nothing. There was a couple of days grace, then people are generally back to complaining again. It's the same under-appreciation that Hotspur way gets.

The biggest failing of ENIC is that they care too much about the long term and not enough about the short term, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't appreciate what they have done for the long term.

 

[Danny1]

I’m assuming @piedpiper isnt a fan of ENIC considering he is “doh” rating all the facts here ?

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

Every time I catch sight of this thread title with its capitalised emphasis, I can't help but read it as....

Edit: Oh, bollocks........it would help if I had posted this in the right thread.

 

[RichieS]

I’m assuming @piedpiper isnt a fan of ENIC considering he is “doh” rating all the facts here ?

I suppose you might have had a bit of a "d'oh" moment in leaving Man City out of your post, but then their transfer business is as inncomparable/irrelevant to everyone else's as Chelsea's.

I'm sure you'll receive further such ratings from other non-posting ENIC conspiracy theorists soon...

 

[sausage]

I’m assuming @piedpiper isnt a fan of ENIC considering he is “doh” rating all the facts here ?

Either that or John Wheldon has changed his username

I don't mind that others have an opinion, or what it is, but it speaks volumes for me that people who seemingly refuse to accept any compliments towards how the club has been run don't express any opinion other than a 'rating'. It's a pretty shallow way of expressing an opinion and comes across to me as a bit schoolground when used as the only form of expression. Also, for those that do post, if you say anything good about how the club has run then it also means that you're some elite DL/ENIC fanboy who thinks they are perfect.

The assumption is that the likes of Irving Scholar and/or Alan Sugar are better and not at all responsible for the game of catch-up we've struggled to complete over the last 20 years.

 

[RichieS]

Either that or John Wheldon has changed his username

I don't mind that others have an opinion, or what it is, but it speaks volumes for me that people who seemingly refuse to accept any compliments towards how the club has been run don't express any opinion other than a 'rating'. It's a pretty shallow way of expressing an opinion and comes across to me as a bit schoolground when used as the only form of expression. Also, for those that do post, if you say anything good about how the club has run then it also means that you're some elite DL/ENIC fanboy who thinks they are perfect.

The assumption is that the likes of Irving Scholar and/or Alan Sugar are better and not at all responsible for the game of catch-up we've struggled to complete over the last 20 years.

I'm not sure anyone's ever claimed or implied that!

What seems to stick in many peoples' craw is that ENIC have made themselves considerably richer through their ownership of THFC. Morally, I am strongly opposed to mere ownership of things being a route to ever greater wealth (see scumbag landlords, for example) but, personally, I am in favour of ENIC's ownership of the club due to the fact that they have gone far beyond mere ownership and have actively made the club better than when they bought it - in every conceivable way. They/the club have also made Tottenham a better place to live through the work of the Tottenham Hotspur Foundation (which I believe is by far the biggest/most active charity organisation of a PL club) and the ongoing regeneration of the area (large amounts of affordable/social housing is being delivered alongside those homes being built as part of the enabling/financing works for the stadium project).

 

[thekneaf]

Anyone else feel embarrassed by our owners today? While our rivals are announcing the arrival of new signings to continue to compete in the football arena and potentially close the gap to the title. Our glorious leaders have spent the day baiting Chelsea with a billboard and advertising our sky walk. It’s embarrassing!

It concerns me that the Supporters Trust have recently had to remind ENIC that they are running a football club and not an entertainment outfit. Their priorities are clearly not on the field and I think the Trust has every right to ask about this. Its concerning.

Look I appreciate that the club may not have had complete control over the timing of that billboard but surely they have creative control over the amazon documentaries output as a whole. All or nothing is already laughable, as we know the answer. We put up a billboard and Chelsea continue to polish their trophies.

Allegedly the eighth richest club in the world cannot afford to sign new recruits without first selling. Its just baffling. I just feel like we’re all being led a merry dance and most seem quite happy to follow.

Lol you realise Amazon put the billboard up, right.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Lol you realise Amazon put the billboard up, right.

And that it's a really good ad. It will generate a load of free marketing through press and virality, it's funny and will play to their fans schadenfreude.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Either that or John Wheldon has changed his username

I don't mind that others have an opinion, or what it is, but it speaks volumes for me that people who seemingly refuse to accept any compliments towards how the club has been run don't express any opinion other than a 'rating'. It's a pretty shallow way of expressing an opinion and comes across to me as a bit schoolground when used as the only form of expression. Also, for those that do post, if you say anything good about how the club has run then it also means that you're some elite DL/ENIC fanboy who thinks they are perfect.

The assumption is that the likes of Irving Scholar and/or Alan Sugar are better and not at all responsible for the game of catch-up we've struggled to complete over the last 20 years.

I think most people are reasonable and generally, do credit ENIC and aren't actually complaining about those aspects of their running of the club. But you do get people mitigating the bad with the good when no, that actually isn't relevant. You can't have people complaining about ENIC or Levy and their transfer policy and come out with 'look at where we were before they took over'....what's that got to do with it? It doesn't change the issue and by implication, one shouldn't complain because 'look at where we were before they took over' and you're seen as ungrateful. I think there are people on both sides of the argument who do this.

I recognise where we were and there's no question we're in a better place than when they took over (although we could have been taken over by Mr Bean and we'd be better than when he took over) but it's obvious now ENIC are in it for themselves, the transfer policy they have pursued is verging on negligent and we are now at the point where we need a chairman/owners who better understand football and have more passion about actually winning things than just thinking it's good enough to be competing. That 'competing' stuff used to be where we wanted to be but if we're to move on it needs to change, there's no other place for it to go. There are quotes from his early days in football that make it totally clear what his priorities are. Make money/grow the investment. There's no emotional attachment, it's just an investment. Has that changed a bit? Maybe, maybe not, I would suggest the evidence is that not so much change there.

So basically, in my humble onion, if you want Levy in or want him/them out, we all want what's best for the club and well all think there's a way of going about it that might differ. All mine is, is that he has to go now.

All IMO of course. I'm sure rumpelstilskin will have his share of people wanting him to stay.

Sorry if that's a bit jumbled, i've had to revisit this several times due to my phone ringing off the hook this morning, now restrictions are being eased the local dogging society are wondering what the rules are regarding facemasks and woodland noshing.