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SpursSince1980

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I don’t think he’d leak it to appease the fans. But he might leak it so people think better the devil you know.
Well, knowing and having worked with PR and political spin doctors (one ‘‘em used to be our co marketing officer at Microsoft, (mark penn) and worked for years for the Clintons), that’s the sort of stretch that would tear a muscle.

I feel ya, I really do. But Danny may have a trillion faults, but pulling something as boneheadedly transparent as that, doesn’t pass the ‘straight face test’.
 

Timberwolf

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Abramovich was the opening of Pandora’s box. The City farce was just a continuation of what had already been happening for 15+ years by that point.

It takes extraordinary competence for any club operating “the right way” to compete against the financial doping. Liverpool under FSG are the only club to manage it consistently in recent years.
Yeah - and even they were quite fortunate.

They were the direct beneficiaries of perhaps the single most overinflated transfer of all time, thanks to Barca spunking half of the Neymar money on Coutinho.

Klopp is an incredible manager and they bought well so fair play to them, but they really won the lottery with that sale.
 

Johno1470

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Football has long lost its morality and integrity

Christ, the World Cup was even to Qatar and we’ve seen the likes of Roman at Chelsea and the Saudi’s at Newcastle.

Not that it’s an excuse by any means for Spurs to get into bed with Qatar but it does look like football is heading this way, allowing states as organisations to use football as a means of sport washing.

All rumours at this stage but it’ll be interesting to see if it mounts to anything.
 

leelee

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Can’t wait for some of the whataboutery if this comes to fruition.

What a sad state of affairs.

Even a minority stake achieves further washing. You just can’t ignore it and put fingers in your ears just so you can have bragging rights over your mates on WhatsApp groups if any such stake gave us some success.

It would be tainted in my opinion.

Tainted success or no success.... it is a tough one.
 

SandroClegane

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I'd rather not win a trophy for the next 20 years than take Qatari or Saudi money. It makes me sick to think about how many are willing to put aside death and oppression for maybe an FA Cup.

EDIT: Give me all the dislikes you want, I don't want you on my side if you don't agree with me here.
 
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DiamondLites

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Really conflicted, morally I’m utterly opposed to the sports washing which has occurred in our game over the last 15 years or so, and have been very vocal in stance regarding it. However, it’s clear that it’s no longer a level playing field and Chelsea and City are no longer outliers. We are already being left in the dust, now Newcastle are primed to overtake us and then there’s the imminent sales of Liverpool and Man Utd and I’d be shocked if one or both aren’t purchased as an oil state’s plaything

So I think I am less opposed than I was, but only because of the inevitability of it becoming the norm in football, and the PL especially

The most frustrating thing is we have the owners who surely have the financial clout to be more ambitious/aggressive, but it’s clear that it’s not their MO and that they have an approach which they will not deviate from (despite the odd press release suggesting otherwise). If ENIC ever truly showed some ambition to win trophies, we could maintain the moral high ground of having success somewhat organically
 

McFlash

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To me the only difference is Roman actually put lots of his own money into the club to strengthen the 1st team. They are both repugnant but I'd rather have someone like roman pumping money in than a parasite like lewis
All billionaires are dodgy, you don't get that rich without having questionable methods but comparing Lewis to Roman is just wrong.
Uncle Joe may be a bit shady but Abramovic was an outright crook and best mates with Putin FFS.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Ding Ding!

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Round two
 

sidford

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When I see words like average and mediocre bandied around about our current side, it makes me really wonder. Some of these kids don’t know they’re born! They’ve no idea what average or mediocrity really is. You’ve never experienced true mediocrity until you’ve experienced Andy Sinton and Paulo Tramezani on the same wing.
Those were the best 36 minutes in the 98/99 season. Thanks for reminding me of that
 

tubbygold

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That's not entirely true - that provision applies to the Club itself - i.e. PSG could not own shares in Tottenham


The part about owners really only restricts them from owning a majority, or having the rights to a majority of voting share.
Ah, I must've read it wrong then. Thank God I'm not a lawyer.
 

cookiemonster

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Can’t wait for some of the whataboutery if this comes to fruition.

What a sad state of affairs.

Even a minority stake achieves further washing. You just can’t ignore it and put fingers in your ears just so you can have bragging rights over your mates on WhatsApp groups if any such stake gave us some success.

It would be tainted in my opinion.
It's only tainted in the eyes of the opposing fans,much of it due to jealousy

Don't think too many Chelsea Man City or in future Bracode fan are too bothered

They are too busy celebrating
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Some good discussion in here but honestly I seriously doubt this will go anywhere.

Certainly not in terms of them buying a minority stake in the club. ENIC will want stupid money for 10-40% of the club so they will end up going elsewhere, probably to Arsenal or West Ham as I get the feeling they really want a London club.

The only way I see them getting involved with us is the stadium naming rights.

But for those really concerned (or I guess those excited too), I’m pretty sure this will amount to nothing as we’ve seen with previous stories about new owners like Cain Hoy etc.
 

talkshowhost86

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Would be an incredibly sad day for me if we ended up with the Qataris in charge or even with a significant stake. Would very genuinely damage my love of the club and considering I invest less and less in football generally now this could be the hammer blow for me and the sport entirely.
 

Impspur1

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Really conflicted, morally I’m utterly opposed to the sports washing which has occurred in our game over the last 15 years or so, and have been very vocal in stance regarding it. However, it’s clear that it’s no longer a level playing field and Chelsea and City are no longer outliers. We are already being left in the dust, now Newcastle are primed to overtake us and then there’s the imminent sales of Liverpool and Man Utd and I’d be shocked if one or both aren’t purchased as an oil state’s plaything

So I think I am less opposed than I was, but only because of the inevitability of it becoming the norm in football, and the PL especially

The most frustrating thing is we have the owners who surely have the financial clout to be more ambitious/aggressive, but it’s clear that it’s not their MO and that they have an approach which they will not deviate from (despite the odd press release suggesting otherwise). If ENIC ever truly showed some ambition to win trophies, we could maintain the moral high ground of having success somewhat organically
Pretty much my stance word for word too. So frustrating that Enic are making many decent fans feel like this.
 
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