Aay_Jay_Dee
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Joe Lewis is defo an evil bond villain. Are we the bad guys?
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Cinemattis
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Global zionist lobby aside: no-one gets a fortune of billions of pounds by playing nice.
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Hmmm.....not always the case. Chuck Feeney? There are exceptions.
Cinemattis
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He has been nice giving the fortune away. Bill Gates the same. Many super rich people are philantrophes and gives loads of money to charities, etc. Some for tax reasons, some to be nice and to do good.
But not one single one of them was giving away their fortunes when building them. There are always some children in sweat shops in India, workers in slave like "contracts" at the bottom of the ladder that these fortunes are built upon. Feeney, Gates et al might not have had anything to do directly with exploiting children and workers and poor countries around the world, or to subject their own employees to substandard contracts of work, etc. But they have most certainly not bothered too much about looking for them inside their own companies or businesspartners either.
Feeney started his career selling alcohol and tobacco. And made his fortune providing the world with duty-free such goods. The tobacco industry can not be said to be a "nice" business, and alcohol kills people in throves - and ruins the lives of even more. Being an integral part of those industries, by giving them new arenas to sell their produces: does that make Feeney nice?
Obviously: Feeney has been extremely nice and charitable - let there be no doubt about that! But I doubt that he was extremely charitable as a bussinessman: if he was, he wouldn´t had made that much money. It´s as simple as that.
How many lives were directly or indirectly ended, injured and/or harmed because of Black Wednesday? Or when the Mexican peso was the victim of same financial tactics? If Joe Lewis started to give away his fortune to charities - would that make him a nice guy? Would it make his fortune "nice"?
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I guess in that respect, one can only differentiate between those like Buffett, Feeney, Gates and the like and those who, like a sickness, accrue as much wealth as they can all their life and hold into it like latter day Ebeneezer Scrooges. No-one out there is truly an angel - none of us but those who use their wealth to make the world a better place (i.e. giving while living) are on a higher level imo.
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Personally, I can't get excited like some can about how personally wealthy Lewis is. Even from a selfish point of view, that wealth doesn't benefit the club itself. Lewis is not and never will be a sugar daddy - not saying he should be - but the club is set up to be self-sustainable and we won't win any trophies from where he sits in the wealth index.
dontcallme
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Absolutely. Lewis' wealth is barely a factor..
ENIC's model is about progressive investment. They are not squeezing us dry but making business decision to increase the turnover and wealth of the club. As the turnover improves so does our wage bill which enables us to attract higher quality players.
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I guess when you get a situation such as that which is occurring at Newcastle then you want to think that we also have an owner who can flex their financial muscle but the Saudis and Qatari royals are in this for entirely different reasons. I'm sure that the eventual aim is to turn a profit but it's all about using the club to project a positive image of their country.
spursfan77
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I don't think their plan is to sell up dude. I think they'll be here for a good decade more at least.
dontcallme
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Not sure about that tbh. There is a lot of money in the Premiership and as the wealth of the club increases so does his investment.
But Lewis is an investor and will look to make as much money as he can when he sells. If an offer comes in that he believes will maximise his profit I believe he would sell regardless of his wealth.
RichieS
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His interest in the club is a decent chunk of his overall wealth. He doesn't have £x billion lying around in cash and then all his companies on top of that - he is rich because of the value of those companies. The club is worth what it is worth and ENIC would sell up if they received an offer that they felt sufficiently exceeded that value.
King of Otters
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I wonder how you get invited to the global zionist lobby group?
I wouldn’t mind some of that action myself.
I wouldn’t mind some of that action myself.
Wine Gum
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His name seems to have come out of the blue. He's never been a Director of any Club Group Company as far as I can see.
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I'd never heard of him, that's for sure.
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No-one can afford us that isn't already involved with other clubs.
Very weird if you look on google there’s articles going back to 2010 mentioning him.
Wine Gum
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His Company Directorships list him as David Pearlman.
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Wow let me get this right .....According to the people, from the place where more high ranking NAZIS ended up at the end of the second world war, there is a global "Jewish Conspiracy"Pretty crazy article about Lewis activities in Patagonia Argentina. If even half of it is true it’s astonishing.
The Dark Secret Behind a British Billionaire’s “Parallel State” In Argentina’s Patagonia
A sinister plan lurks beneath the de facto independent state created by billionaire Joe Lewis in the heart of Argentina’s Patagonia.www.mintpressnews.com
Fuck me they have not even changed the script in75 years since the war and nearly 100 since Adolf wrote Meine Kampf and people still fall for that bullshit.
None of it is true. This insidious anti-semitic crap is boring. There is no Jewish conspiracy, This is not Austin Powers. The worlds core Jewish population today is less than 15million, and around 20million of people that could be identified as Jews. Out of 7.79 Billion. Seriously. When will people drop this stupid stereotypical crap. It is actually racism of the worst kind.
| Christianity | 31.4% | |
| Islam | 23.2% | |
| Unaffiliated | 16.4% | |
| Hinduism | 15.0% | |
| Buddhism | 7.1% | |
| Folk Religion | 5.9% | |
| Other (includes Judaism, Bahá’í, Sikhism, and Jainism) | 1.0% | |
| Pew Research Center, 2015[1] |
I’m Jewish and I don’t consider it racism. The world population is irrelevant. There’s no denying Jews are high achievers and there are many rich and powerful Jewish people in the world massively disproportionate to their numbers. Obviously this doesn’t mean there’s some sort of conspiracy. But there’s interesting stuff in that article if you ignore the Zionist stuff and a lot of it is based in fact. The dispute with the locals has been going on for years and still is.
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