Eric Dier

[jurgen11]

What are the chants? So good to know that he's appreciated.

I love Eric Dier , Eric Dier loves me ...Hardly Mercury prize winning lyrics but sounded great

 

[Reado]

I love Eric Dier , Eric Dier loves me ...Hardly Mercury prize winning lyrics but sounded great

Such a simple song but proper love hearing it round the ground.

So pleased for his goal it's been so long! He was also so happy for Sessengon in the celebrations. Came charging over and gave the biggest hug and patting him on the back. Proper team player.

 

[EssexSH27]

I'm a bit surprised Coady hasn't been looked at. He's a lot like Dier in that he's made for the ccb role, he's an experienced premier league player and a club captain/leader.

Desperate to go back north west by sounds of it.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

He's performing really solidly in the middle of that back 3, really suits him and he's a great character so will be listening and learning from Conte really well.

Do we think we can see us winning a league or trophy with him there or do we still need to sign a next level CB this window as we thought we were initially going to in Bastoni etc? I know we now have Lenglet for LCB depth so if we now brought in another CB I assume they'd be to compete with or take Dier's place as we seem happy with Romero and Sanchez for the RCB role.

I'm quite torn on this one as I like Dier as a character and I feel buying someone to play ahead of him is harsh as he's performed pretty well, but as we know squad depth and quality is important so someone coming in as that 6th CB to compete with Dier could be great, if we go for a top top top level CB and Dier then becomes the back-up then fair enough as no room for sentimentality but I'm not sure its 100% nessercary, thoughts?

 

[lobob8]

Can't wait to see him get his new contract.

 

[Zippy1980]

Really fulfilling his potential now

 

[Timberwolf]

He's performing really solidly in the middle of that back 3, really suits him and he's a great character so will be listening and learning from Conte really well.

Do we think we can see us winning a league or trophy with him there or do we still need to sign a next level CB this window as we thought we were initially going to in Bastoni etc? I know we now have Lenglet for LCB depth so if we now brought in another CB I assume they'd be to compete with or take Dier's place as we seem happy with Romero and Sanchez for the RCB role.

I'm quite torn on this one as I like Dier as a character and I feel buying someone to play ahead of him is harsh as he's performed pretty well, but as we know squad depth and quality is important so someone coming in as that 6th CB to compete with Dier could be great, if we go for a top top top level CB and Dier then becomes the back-up then fair enough as no room for sentimentality but I'm not sure its 100% nessercary, thoughts?

Honestly hard to tell. I think this season could be the acid test. Another year under Conte competing in the CL and at the top of the table... I think we'll see if he's up to the very top standard.

He's been great for about 18 months now so fingers crossed he can do it. I do still think he can be a bit too passive when being run at, though. We've conceded a few goals when he's backed off and backed off, allowing players to take clear shots at goal from the edge of the box.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I think improving on him is going to be really hard, in particular given his impact on the team more generally and leadership/organisational role that I get the idea he plays.

We do need cover though. I suspect that the right move is to cherry pick the next big thing and really lean in on getting him. Basically: identify the next Gvardiol/VVD or whatever the right comparison is, at (eg) 18/19 years of age, and he can learn the ropes under Eric’s tutelage.

 

[crokey]

Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.

I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.

Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.

He could be our next Captain.

 

[glacierSpurs]

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Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.

I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.

Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.

He could be our next Captain.

This post needs to be stickied.

 

[Japhet]

Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.

I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.

Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.

He could be our next Captain.

Most of the criticism came when he was playing in a back 4. He looks a completely different player in a back 3. He also struggled when he was trying to come back from appendicitis with medical complications but he fought his way back. His problems basically derived from Managers and health issues. Now both of those are sorted he's an absolute rock.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.

I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.

Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.

He could be our next Captain.

I think absolutely nothing wrong with anyone discussing improving on Eric Dier as at times his form has been up and down with us and it IS still debatable as to whether he is good enough as he’s not world class, he’s no VVD or Dias etc.

However that being said, personally I think since we’ve moved to a back 3 and Conte has come in, he’s been one of our very top most consistent performers, he seems to suit that position so well and his attitude and effort have been pretty exemplary for the time he’s been at the club, he’s a real leader.

I don’t think anyone is saying move him on and myself and quite a few others have said that he could well be good enough to be our main CB in a 3 to win trophies under Conte, but if we have the budget for it and could get an e.g. Bastoni (appreciate he is more of a LCB) or Grvadol or a gamechanging level CB like when Liverpool got VVD, then surely that would upgrade us and Dier would be a phenomenal back up and squad player to have.

I think it’s a very legitimate question as to if the budget is there should we do that or not and credit to Dier that he is making us all think twice about it, that shows the kind of level he’s performing at and 100% Southgate should be picking him, it’s a travesty.

 

[HildoSpur]

Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.

I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.

Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.

He could be our next Captain.

He should be our next captain

 

[glacierSpurs]

I think absolutely nothing wrong with anyone discussing improving on Eric Dier as at times his form has been up and down with us and it IS still debatable as to whether he is good enough as he’s not world class, he’s no VVD or Dias etc.

TBH, I really don't get such comparison. Both of the defenders you listed played for champions - their mistakes were so easily overlooked because their teams often win. Dier wouldn't be out of place in both Liverpool and Citeh. VvD and Dias wouldn't suddenly make us champions either. But the level Dier makes us better is higher than say both VvD and Dias do to their respective clubs because their teams are already so solid. And VvD came from Celtic then to Southampton, hardly the path of a world class player when Liverpool is only his biggest club he has played. Whereas Dier has been consistently in the team with us even in our peak period under Poch, as well as during the Mourinho stint and now currently under Conte.

I don’t think anyone is saying move him on and myself and quite a few others have said that he could well be good enough to be our main CB in a 3 to win trophies under Conte, but if we have the budget for it and could get an e.g. Bastoni (appreciate he is more of a LCB) or Grvadol or a gamechanging level CB like when Liverpool got VVD, then surely that would upgrade us and Dier would be a phenomenal back up and squad player to have.

I really hope Conte doesn't think that a new signing, even the ones mentioned at that high level of a CB, is going to despatch Dier down to being a backup or squad player straight away, without even considering if they could maintain their level in the league and assume they can be better than Dier.

Now I really think Southgate has a fucking huge responsibility for some of the lacking respect for Dier. Maguire, Mings, Ben fucking White in front of Dier in the national squad. Ffs.

 

[Japhet]

I think absolutely nothing wrong with anyone discussing improving on Eric Dier as at times his form has been up and down with us and it IS still debatable as to whether he is good enough as he’s not world class, he’s no VVD or Dias etc.

However that being said, personally I think since we’ve moved to a back 3 and Conte has come in, he’s been one of our very top most consistent performers, he seems to suit that position so well and his attitude and effort have been pretty exemplary for the time he’s been at the club, he’s a real leader.

I don’t think anyone is saying move him on and myself and quite a few others have said that he could well be good enough to be our main CB in a 3 to win trophies under Conte, but if we have the budget for it and could get an e.g. Bastoni (appreciate he is more of a LCB) or Grvadol or a gamechanging level CB like when Liverpool got VVD, then surely that would upgrade us and Dier would be a phenomenal back up and squad player to have.

I think it’s a very legitimate question as to if the budget is there should we do that or not and credit to Dier that he is making us all think twice about it, that shows the kind of level he’s performing at and 100% Southgate should be picking him, it’s a travesty.

He brings a lot more to the club than just what he does on the pitch. He's great in the dressing room and with the media too. I'd be happy if we looked for a decent back up to Dier rather than somebody Dier could play second fiddle to. I have no idea who that would be either because of the leadership and organization Dier has brought to our back line.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

TBH, I really don't get such comparison. Both of the defenders you listed played for champions - their mistakes were so easily overlooked because their teams often win. Dier wouldn't be out of place in both Liverpool and Citeh. VvD and Dias wouldn't suddenly make us champions either. But the level Dier makes us better is higher than say both VvD and Dias do to their respective clubs because their teams are already so solid. And VvD came from Celtic then to Southampton, hardly the path of a world class player when Liverpool is only his biggest club he has played. Whereas Dier has been consistently in the team with us even in our peak period under Poch, as well as during the Mourinho stint and now currently under Conte.


I really hope Conte doesn't think that a new signing, even the ones mentioned at that high level of a CB, is going to despatch Dier down to being a backup or squad player straight away, without even considering if they could maintain their level in the league and assume they can be better than Dier.

Now I really think Southgate has a fucking huge responsibility for some of the lacking respect for Dier. Maguire, Mings, Ben fucking White in front of Dier in the national squad. Ffs.

Mate VVD transformed Liverpool's defence, they hadn't won anything until he and Allison came in, I love Dier as much as the next person but VVD is one of the best CB's in the world and Dier at this moment is not. Ruben Dias also is at a higher level than Dier. Sure Dier suits us pretty well but I think the comparisons are perfectly valid because I do actually think that if we put VVD in our team and Dier in Liverpools that it would make a reasonable difference, VVD is a man mountain and one of the very best CB's in the world and has shown that for a few years now.

Re a new signing, Conte wouldn't immediately displace Dier, he's shown that new signings still have to earn their position in the team/squad.

Personally I'm now coming round more to the idea of signing a strong back-up to compete with Dier rather than a £60-70mil world class CB to replace him, not sure we need to at this point and he offers a lot in terms of leadership etc, but Conte and FP will know best.

Agree re. Southgate, travesty those players being picked ahead of Dier.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

He brings a lot more to the club than just what he does on the pitch. He's great in the dressing room and with the media too. I'd be happy if we looked for a decent back up to Dier rather than somebody Dier could play second fiddle to. I have no idea who that would be either because of the leadership and organization Dier has brought to our back line.

Yea I'm starting to feel the same mate that a decent back-up would be the best option because on the pitch he is very close at the moment to top top level and as you say he also bring so much leadership etc.

 

[rabbikeane]

Fine tuning the squad by replacing Sanchez with someone who could cover and challenge both Dier and Romero seem to be the smart move. Our depth issue at the back seem to be that neither of the RCB can play in the middle. If we sign a pure Dier cover then one of them will sit on the bench all the time and rot.

 

[Mark_147]

Fine tuning the squad by replacing Sanchez with someone who could cover and challenge both Dier and Romero seem to be the smart move. Our depth issue at the back seem to be that neither of the RCB can play in the middle. If we sign a pure Dier cover then one of them will sit on the bench all the time and rot.

When the player who's signed to cover Romero and Dier gets injured then you now have no cover whatsoever for 2 positions instead of one. I see no reason why Dier should not have competition for his place like everyone else in the squad.

 

[rabbikeane]

When the player who's signed to cover Romero and Dier gets injured then you now have no cover whatsoever for 2 positions instead of one. I see no reason why Dier should not have competition for his place like everyone else in the squad.

Dier's position is the one you don't rotate in at all, you want the middle CB to be ever present. A cover for that position won't get game time at all, like with Rodon, who when we finally had a need he wasn't ready. Ideally we'd keep a sixth CB like Tanganga for emergencies, but I feel that Sanchez is too high status and expensive for the role. It's a squad role where player is given to rot and be rusty if he doesn't have other options to play (in different position, or U21). It comes to a certain point in depth where Fagan-Walcott and Paskotsi should be considered, or even Emerson Royal for the RCB rather than someone who haven't had a game for 4 months