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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

mattspur1986

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These two make quite good points about removing him now is the right time. Journalists rounding on him now.



this is just levy in a nutshell isn’t it!? When everyone agrees he should pull the trigger he’s not going to, and when he probably should have gave mourinho the final - he sacked him! Just shows that he has ZERO clue with football matters.
 

Albertbarich

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this is just levy in a nutshell isn’t it!? When everyone agrees he should pull the trigger he’s not going to, and when he probably should have gave mourinho the final - he sacked him! Just shows that he has ZERO clue with football matters.
To be fair I think Kay is guessing /presuming Poch is the first choice.

If we don't have a replacement ready to go then I guess it is similar to the Mourinho situation that they say didn't make sense.

I think he should go asap as the club and fanbase would get a lift from that alone but that whole point relies on the ready made replacement and I don't think there is one.
 

Trix

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The ‘cash infusion’ from the summer was never about the cash and ALWAYS about the valuation that it implied i,e £150m for an extra 1.9% of the equity = £7.9bn valuation (not including the debt).
But thats how we roll with private Equity owners….and why ive pretty much given up with this soap opera of a club.
I heard about the 150million coming in months before they released the press statements and posted about it back of house. It was to get Conte the players he wanted, well, that was what they were saying and also told Antonio at the time. It was pretty specific and why I kept saying he was going to be backed. Then 2-3 months later the club made the statement that the money was being drawn down as a shares issue I had every faith that that was going to be the case.
 

PLTuck

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More Richy comments on Conte!:
“We are out of the biggest club competition, you can't play like this when needing to score a goal," he said. "I think he should have put [pushed] the team forward, especially in the second half."

Boxing match on the training ground incoming?
 

Styopa

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Few good posts by Matt who I believe was the first to break the Jose to us story and has broken a few transfer bits since Contes been here as well so has some contacts.

Completely agree with what he's saying and it's good that the press are looking past the manager for our failings


It's shocking how much we have spent in the last 3.5 years to stagnate.

We must have spent nearly half a billion pounds on new players and coaches since sacking Pochettino.
 

Gb160

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More Richy comments on Conte!:
“We are out of the biggest club competition, you can't play like this when needing to score a goal," he said. "I think he should have put [pushed] the team forward, especially in the second half."
Richy should be our next manager, add him to the poll.
 

Ghost Hardware

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It would be but that buzz wouldn't last so long.

We need to be absolutely certain about who we appoint because this has to be much more then bringing someone in for the weekend or a quick lift.
There is no reason we couldn't be officiant in appointing a successor. I do think there enough good options currently unattached that we wouldn't need to wait until the summer for one currently at a club.

BUT I completely agree that decision has to be completely thought through and a long term plan put in place alongside any appointment. That includes succession planning for DoF. Our next manager can't be another 2 year with option appointment. It has to be one with 4/5 year plan.

Its a lot to consider but not something that should take months. It helps that really there are only 4 viable managers currently available.
 

TOLBINY

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Whose fault is it that we have systemically shipped out every creative player we have bar Deki and refused to buy any others? Conte turned down Maddison, he shipped out Gil for absolutely no reason, he spunked £60m on Richarlison only to use him primarily as a back up to Kulusevski when he's a mid table player at best in that role.
He turned down Maddison or we wouldn't pay the fee?
He shipped out Gil because Gil wanted regular game time
Richarlison (who I am not convinced is a Conte pick) is back up to Kane, and we all know Kane is not going to be rotated regularly.

Here are the first team players who have arrived under Conte;

Bentancur
Kuluveski (loan)
Forster
Perisic
Bissouma
Richarlison
Lenglet (loan)
Spence
Udogie
Porro (loan + obligation)
Danjuma (loan)

I have no idea how many of them were Conte picks (I want <<name of player>>) - but my guess is it is a short list. Tottenham are more about 'this is who we can get / afford' take it or leave it. Isn't that an often cited reason that Poch had the sulks?
 

Led Revolver

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I don’t get this praise for Richy coming out and saying all this. I’m not impressed..

Keep frustrations in house and be professional, regardless of whether what he’s saying is right or wrong! £60m shouldn’t get you a player that’s unprofessional.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I am convinced that if he was going before the weekend that would be clear by now, and you wouldn’t have tweets like the one just now from the club with Harry talking about last night. What I fail to understand is how on earth any sane person can think that’s the right course of action? If we wait till the international break we could be 6 more points adrift of 4th. The time is now. Not Monday, or two weeks. NOW. NOW. NOW.
Whilst I think there is some truth in what you say, I also think this sort of thing will happen very quickly if it happens and until it does it would be business as usual everywhere except the boardroom. TBH tho unless things are completely falling apart behind the scenes at an unmanageable level I would expect him to still be here on Saturday and any change to happen next week when we don't have a mid week game.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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this is just levy in a nutshell isn’t it!? When everyone agrees he should pull the trigger he’s not going to, and when he probably should have gave mourinho the final - he sacked him! Just shows that he has ZERO clue with football matters.
100% sums up our issues doesn't it.
 

Albertbarich

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He turned down Maddison or we wouldn't pay the fee?
He shipped out Gil because Gil wanted regular game time
Richarlison (who I am not convinced is a Conte pick) is back up to Kane, and we all know Kane is not going to be rotated regularly.

Here are the first team players who have arrived under Conte;

Bentancur
Kuluveski (loan)
Forster
Perisic
Bissouma
Richarlison
Lenglet (loan)
Spence
Udogie
Porro (loan + obligation)
Danjuma (loan)

I have no idea how many of them were Conte picks (I want <<name of player>>) - but my guess is it is a short list. Tottenham are more about 'this is who we can get / afford' take it or leave it. Isn't that an often cited reason that Poch had the sulks?
Blame everyone because they're all at fault and this includes the manager .

Whether he got first choices or not and as we have seen from your post people will believe who they want to but this season, the football, the tactics have been utter shit
 

Gb160

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I don’t get this praise for Richy coming out and saying all this. I’m not impressed..

Keep frustrations in house and be professional, regardless of whether what he’s saying is right or wrong! £60m shouldn’t get you a player that’s unprofessional.
I'll be honest, its not exactly high on our list of priorities right now.
It's like watching your house on fire and moaning because the front lawn needs a trim.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I heard about the 150million coming in months before they released the press statements and posted about it back of house. It was to get Conte the players he wanted, well, that was what they were saying and also told Antonio at the time. It was pretty specific and why I kept saying he was going to be backed. Then 2-3 months later the club made the statement that the money was being drawn down as a shares issue I had every faith that that was going to be the case.
Why do you think they chose not to spend all of it? Was it just as simple as a change of heart and they wanted to keep the money or did they start having doubts already about Conte. I honestly can't fathom why they didn't spend it on a defender when even if Conte left we would and do still need one.
 

Spursfan1414

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He turned down Maddison or we wouldn't pay the fee?
He shipped out Gil because Gil wanted regular game time
Richarlison (who I am not convinced is a Conte pick) is back up to Kane, and we all know Kane is not going to be rotated regularly.

Here are the first team players who have arrived under Conte;

Bentancur
Kuluveski (loan)
Forster
Perisic
Bissouma
Richarlison
Lenglet (loan)
Spence
Udogie
Porro (loan + obligation)
Danjuma (loan)

I have no idea how many of them were Conte picks (I want <<name of player>>) - but my guess is it is a short list. Tottenham are more about 'this is who we can get / afford' take it or leave it. Isn't that an often cited reason that Poch had the sulks?
He turned him down. We were willing to pay.
Gil could've played regularly here if we had a manager who knew the meaning of the word "rotation".
He personally called Richarlison and asked him to come. And if he's only a back up to Kane and not Son then spaffing £60m on that is even more brain dead than it looks.

Any other excuses for him that we need to try?
 

mil1lion

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Mate, when you're 1-0 down and need a goal to stay in the tie, most managers would have switched to 4 at the back rather than sacrifice an attacker to maintain a 5ATB system that doesn't even work.
Did you watch the game? He switched to a back 4 when he brought Richarlison on for Emerson and Davies went to left back. We had Richarlison and Kane up front , Son and Kulusevski as wingers in a 442. He deserves criticism but it doesn't help when people make stuff up too. Sanchez came on because we had 1 centre back (Lenglet) after Romero was sent off. The Sanchez sub was right but he also needed to add more to the attack as well. Ideally take Davies off for Danjuma and maybe bring Devine on in centre midfield. Leave 2 enter backs and 1 defensive midfielder to defend the counters and really go for it.
 

Led Revolver

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I'll be honest, its not exactly high on our list of priorities right now.
It's like watching your house on fire and moaning because the front lawn needs a trim.
Completely disagree. It just makes everything worse. The last thing with need is more escalations to make things even more out of control.

Basically, just be fucking professional! You get paid enough to maintain that as a bare minimum.

These people are representing our club - just show some class. I obviously get everyone’s frustrations, but come on!
 
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