Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[spids]

I would widen this to most players that have left us have won trophies

Foyth got a Europa league (and a WC medal)

Winning trophies in England is hard in the oligarch / oil state era

How many more can you name other than Foyth?

 

[Yiddo100]

I wouldn't be too bothered if we hadn't had our ITKs tell us this breakdown was happening a few weeks ago. Numerous solid sources have said there is basically no money to spend on players, so it's pretty obvious to me if we don't back Conte in January that he's going to leave. Why would he stay if he doesn't have the support of the club?

Have the ITKs said there is no money to spend or did they say we won’t be spending big money on players, may be wrong but thought it was the latter.

 

[SpartanSpur]

This is all so boring. We need stability. Ideally with Conte, but we can’t be going through this nonsense every six months. Having this all trotted out a week before the season resumes is less than ideal, to say the least.

As the linked piece says the Conte pantomime is the best chance we have of screwing enough financial backing out of ENIC to have any real chance of competing. It's annoying but I'd rather an ambitious manager than a content one.

 

[yiddo]

So there has been reports we’ve got next to no money to spend in Jan? I must have missed that… but if that is true then no wonder Conte is thinking twice about signing an extension.

Arsenal, Newcastle & Chelsea already appear to be lining up big moves.
We are going to be left behind it’s clear. Why would Conte want to hang around for that?

 

[RuskyM]

This is part of why I can’t fully buy into the Conte Spurs dream: it all feels so temporary and conditional. Either he wants to be here or he doesn’t. Bored of these games (in every sense).

 

[cabinfever]

How many more can you name other than Foyth?

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Well I didn't know so I asked Google......​

Here is the full list of former players who have won trophies elsewhere since 2008:​

• Dimitar Berbatov: 3x EPL, 1x Club World Cup, 1x League Cup
• Robbie Keane: 3x MLS Cup, 1x MLS Supporter’s Shield
• Teemu Tainio: 1x Eredivisie, 2x Finnish League, 1x Finnish Cup
• Young-pyo Lee: 2x Saudi Arabian League.
• Kevin-Prince Boateng: 1x La Liga, 1x Serie A, 1x German Cup
• Hossam Ghaly: 4x Egyptian League, 1x Egyptian Cup, 1x CAF Champions League, 1x CAF Confederation Cup
• Adel Taarabt : 1x Portuguese League, 1x Portuguese Super Cup
• Tomas Pekhart: 1x Czech League, 2x Polish League, 1x Israeli League, 1x Greek Cup
• Didier Zokora: 1x Spanish Cup
• Kyle Walker: 3x EPL, 1x FA Cup, 4x League Cup, 2x English Super Cup
• Paul-José Mpoku: 1x Belgian Cup
• Bongani Khumalo: 4x South African League, 1x South African Cup

• Roman Pavlyuchenko: 1x Russian Cup
• Vedran Ćorluka: 1x Russian League, 4x Russian Cup, 1x Russian Super Cup
• Simon Dawkins: 1x MLS Supporter's Shield
• Luka Modrić: 4x UEFA CL, 2x Spanish League, 1x Spanish Cup, 3x Spanish Super Cup, 4x FIFA Club WC, 3x UEFA Super Cup
• Rafael van der Vaart: 1x Danish League
• Gareth Bale: 4x UEFA CL, 2x Spanish League, 1x Spanish Cup, 2x Spanish Super Cup, 4x FIFA Club WC, 3x UEFA Super cup
• Jermain Defoe: 1x Scottish League
• Clint Dempsey: 1x MLS Cup, 1x MLS Supporter's Shield, 1x US Open Cup
• Tomislav Gomelt: 1x Romanian Cup
• Paulinho: 1x Spanish League, 1x Spanish Cup, 4x Chinese League, 1x Chinese Cup, 2x Chinese Super Cup, 1x AFC CL
• Benjamin Stambouli: 1x French League, 1x French Cup, 1x French League Cup, 2x French Super Cup
• Federico Fazio: 1x Europa League
• Vincent Janssen: 1x Mexican League
• Georges-Kevin N'Koudou: 1x Turkish League
• Christian Eriksen: 1x Italian League
• Fernando Llorente: 1x Italian Cup

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

This is part of why I can’t fully buy into the Conte Spurs dream: it all feels so temporary and conditional. Either he wants to be here or he doesn’t. Bored of these games (in every sense).

It’s exactly what we signed up for and the club is 100% to blame if he does walk. There have been no illusions from Conte’s side, and if the club doesn’t bring their end to the table he will be well within reason to walk away.

 

[RuskyM]

It’s exactly what we signed up for and the club is 100% to blame if he does walk. There have been no illusions from Conte’s side, and if the club doesn’t bring their end to the table he will be well within reason to walk away.

Can’t disagree, just find it all very tiring.

 

[thelak]

How many more can you name other than Foyth?

​

Well I didn't know so I asked Google......​

Here is the full list of former players who have won trophies elsewhere since 2008:​

• Dimitar Berbatov: 3x EPL, 1x Club World Cup, 1x League Cup
• Robbie Keane: 3x MLS Cup, 1x MLS Supporter’s Shield
• Teemu Tainio: 1x Eredivisie, 2x Finnish League, 1x Finnish Cup
• Young-pyo Lee: 2x Saudi Arabian League.
• Kevin-Prince Boateng: 1x La Liga, 1x Serie A, 1x German Cup
• Hossam Ghaly: 4x Egyptian League, 1x Egyptian Cup, 1x CAF Champions League, 1x CAF Confederation Cup
• Adel Taarabt : 1x Portuguese League, 1x Portuguese Super Cup
• Tomas Pekhart: 1x Czech League, 2x Polish League, 1x Israeli League, 1x Greek Cup
• Didier Zokora: 1x Spanish Cup
• Kyle Walker: 3x EPL, 1x FA Cup, 4x League Cup, 2x English Super Cup
• Paul-José Mpoku: 1x Belgian Cup
• Bongani Khumalo: 4x South African League, 1x South African Cup

• Roman Pavlyuchenko: 1x Russian Cup
• Vedran Ćorluka: 1x Russian League, 4x Russian Cup, 1x Russian Super Cup
• Simon Dawkins: 1x MLS Supporter's Shield
• Luka Modrić: 4x UEFA CL, 2x Spanish League, 1x Spanish Cup, 3x Spanish Super Cup, 4x FIFA Club WC, 3x UEFA Super Cup
• Rafael van der Vaart: 1x Danish League
• Gareth Bale: 4x UEFA CL, 2x Spanish League, 1x Spanish Cup, 2x Spanish Super Cup, 4x FIFA Club WC, 3x UEFA Super cup
• Jermain Defoe: 1x Scottish League
• Clint Dempsey: 1x MLS Cup, 1x MLS Supporter's Shield, 1x US Open Cup
• Tomislav Gomelt: 1x Romanian Cup
• Paulinho: 1x Spanish League, 1x Spanish Cup, 4x Chinese League, 1x Chinese Cup, 2x Chinese Super Cup, 1x AFC CL
• Benjamin Stambouli: 1x French League, 1x French Cup, 1x French League Cup, 2x French Super Cup
• Federico Fazio: 1x Europa League
• Vincent Janssen: 1x Mexican League
• Georges-Kevin N'Koudou: 1x Turkish League
• Christian Eriksen: 1x Italian League
• Fernando Llorente: 1x Italian Cup

Trippier should be on here too, Joe Hart (!), Lo Celso won the Europa too?….. Tanguy Serie A champion this year??

 

[ajspurs]

As the linked piece says the Conte pantomime is the best chance we have of screwing enough financial backing out of ENIC to have any real chance of competing. It's annoying but I'd rather an ambitious manager than a content one.

Yeah us not spending adequately to really compete annoys me much more than any Conte 'antics'. If Conte walks it's not bleak to me because we lost a good manager it's bleak because it signals we're not yet willing to really make that push to compete at the top.

 

[felmani26]

I'll be honest, if we contrive to get Conte to quit on the basis of Levy (and the baord's) interference, reneging on promises and pining for Poch then there's a petulant side in me that would just want the club to crash and burn metaphorically speaking as a way of forcing these smarmy, know-all fucks out the door!

 

[GioW]

I think this ends badly whether he signs or not. Somewhere down the line we'll balls it up , let's be honest.

 

[TPdYID]

I think this ends badly whether he signs or not. Somewhere down the line we'll balls it up , let's be honest.

Love your optimism.

 

[danielneeds]

I think this ends badly whether he signs or not. Somewhere down the line we'll balls it up , let's be honest.

Somewhere down the line every manager and club relationship ends badly, so you’re hardly Nostradamus here.

 

[TPdYID]

There’s a load’a very similar posts with the general theme being “IF Levy f**ks this up” bla bla bla.

But what *IF* it’s Conte who fucks this up? Would we ever know for sure what’s happening behind the scenes?

I appreciate this question is hypothetical to a large extent as it’s unlikely to be common knowledge. But just posing an alternative view point to the status quo.

 

[GioW]

Love your optimism.

I love you x

 

[TPdYID]

I love you x

DM me x

 

[journeyman]

We’ve been here before. Brinkmanship is a normal part of contract negotiations.

 

[GioW]

DM me x

Don't say it unless you mean it.

Suppose I'm more comfortable being pessimistic with Tottenham. Hope I'm wrong xx

 

[EssexSH27]

I don’t think either side looks great. If we want to compete on the grandest stage then we need January investment. Arsenal look strong as can be on the wingers side but still looking to invest in Murdyk. Newcastle gonna be strong. We’ve clearly got weakness in defence and RB/RWB.

However without commitment for him to stay means buying players for a system that doesn’t seem to work and won’t suit other managers is also bit odd. I can’t blame Levy for wanting commitment to stay before investing in say a top RWB if he’s walking in the summer and next manager plays system it won’t work in. Looks like Tottenham as per usual stuck between rock and hard place.