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coys200

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Add here they are out. Sorry in a rush but lots on price of football twitter.
 
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dimiSpur

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The gap in income is very small considering the added income the new stadium will bring. Arguably, we could overtake all of them.
 

Bobbins

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How is it a “world record” operating profit? Is it bigger than any other football club in history? Or just the biggest in our history? You can’t set world records by only beating yourself!

Hold on there’s a joke in there somewhere...
 

Giovanni

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So it will be a while until we get to see the figures for the new stadium in full. Id expect this seasons figure to be a little higher despite attendences at wembley being down because of the higher cl prize money and a spike with the nwhl for this last part of this season.

If we can get top 4 this sesson for next season id fully expect us to easily surpass the clubs above us (arse, chelsea and pool) but we wont find out until 2021.
 

BehindEnemyLines

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How is it a “world record” operating profit? Is it bigger than any other football club in history? Or just the biggest in our history? You can’t set world records by only beating yourself!

Hold on there’s a joke in there somewhere...
Record was previously held by Liverpool (think it was about £107m).........so, we made more profit in one year than any other club in the world ever!
 

Giovanni

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157m record profits....wow. Id like to think the club has plans to give a large chunk of this to squad investment and even moreso if we can get cl too. 100m plus player sales to new (top) players and 57m to stadium debt would be nice.
 

dirtyh

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Jun 24, 2011
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157m record profits....wow. Id like to think the club has plans to give a large chunk of this to squad investment and even moreso if we can get cl too. 100m plus player sales to new (top) players and 57m to stadium debt would be nice.

how about 157m to the stadium and 0 for new (top) players? :grumpy:
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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I'm quite surprised Levy wouldn't hide the profit in the business, either by retaining cash or paying down debt.

Surely clubs and agents will see that and raise their expectations?

Unless it is for the benefit of refinancing? (Or dividends..)

You would think there is a strategy here, but I can't quite figure it out.
 

MR_BEN

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I'm quite surprised Levy wouldn't hide the profit in the business, either by retaining cash or paying down debt.

Surely clubs and agents will see that and raise their expectations?

Unless it is for the benefit of refinancing? (Or dividends..)

You would think there is a strategy here, but I can't quite figure it out.

No... it’s because it would be illegal. The clubs auditors have to sign off on the accounts and if they sign them off as unqualified that would raise heaps of questions and the media would be all over us like a rash.

Quite simply... you don’t issue false accounts.
 

tobi

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No... it’s because it would be illegal. The clubs auditors have to sign off on the accounts and if they sign them off as unqualified that would raise heaps of questions and the media would be all over us like a rash.

Quite simply... you don’t issue false accounts.

Unless your favourite colour is Sky Blue...
 

coys200

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What’s also interesting is that as of June 2018 the stadium cost is £700m and the loan was at £410m of possible £630m. Suggesting we’ve already paid £300m off the stadium.
 

WalkerboyUK

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157m record profits....wow. Id like to think the club has plans to give a large chunk of this to squad investment and even moreso if we can get cl too. 100m plus player sales to new (top) players and 57m to stadium debt would be nice.

Even if Levy handed over £100 million of the profit to invest in players, it's only realistically going to get us 2 players when you factor in wages.
 

danielneeds

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What’s also interesting is that as of June 2018 the stadium cost is £700m and the loan was at £410m of possible £630m. Suggesting we’ve already paid £300m off the stadium.
Obviously the loan amount will go up this year after the over-run, suggesting that debt will be around the £600m mark.

If Levy can use all this positive press about the stadium to snag a long-term naming rights deal of £200m over 10 years that’ll take the debt that we have to service down to £400m which starts to look a bit more manageable.
 

Graysonti

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What’s also interesting is that as of June 2018 the stadium cost is £700m and the loan was at £410m of possible £630m. Suggesting we’ve already paid £300m off the stadium.


Don’t forget, when you get a total cost for th stadium, a fair chunk would have already been paid for through club operating cash reserves.

All the early part of the build - all paid for.

The total cost will not what will be owed - it will be lower.
 

worcestersauce

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BBC is quoting £113 after tax.

Edit: £113 million after tax.
 
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JamieSpursCommunityUser

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No... it’s because it would be illegal. The clubs auditors have to sign off on the accounts and if they sign them off as unqualified that would raise heaps of questions and the media would be all over us like a rash.

Quite simply... you don’t issue false accounts.

Sorry think we're at crossed wires, that isn't my point.

THFC can, perfectly legally and ethically, re-invest (retain) it's own cash for the subsequent year, before tax.

Whether to re-invest in future operations (growth), assets, paying down debt, or even as a contingency.

Obviously no company will do that indefinitely, whether for commercial or tax purposes, as it also can't pay out dividends on cash sitting in the business.

Spurs could easily have taken any number of legal courses to play these numbers down, but chose not to.

Am assuming that is to look strong to investors, perhaps ahead of a Bond issue which I think was mentioned in the THST minutes - I'd be interested to know their thinking that's all.
 
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