Five things we learned from Tottenham Hotspur’s defeat at Liverpool

[goughie1966]

A pretty fair assessment if you ask me

Read the full article at Metro

 

[longtimespur]

Yes a pretty good summary of last night's and where we're at.

 

[Shea]

We need some of that attacking edge Liverpool showed

That fast attack that Sterling and Ibe had to offer, constantly putting us under pressure and looking dangerous

We only really had Kane who ever looked like getting beyond their back line

We look effective but we;re still lacking that bit of pace and I don;t think we really create enough chances (still a few too many long shots)

Things are certainly on the up but I agree we're still lacking depth and in need of a few key signings to add that certain something we're missing. We don't have that attacking threat Sterling, Sturridge and now Ibe offer Liverpool

Maybe other players will continue to step up under Poch though

 

[double0]

We need some of that attacking edge Liverpool showed

That fast attack that Sterling and Ibe had to offer, constantly putting us under pressure and looking dangerous

We only really had Kane who ever looked like getting beyond their back line

We look effective but we;re still lacking that bit of pace and I don;t think we really create enough chances (still a few too many long shots)

Things are certainly on the up but I agree we're still lacking depth and in need of a few key signings to add that certain something we're missing. We don't have that attacking threat Sterling, Sturridge and now Ibe offer Liverpool

Maybe other players will continue to step up under Poch though

Sterling never played.

I think we attacked well enough and yes we do need more pacy options.

 

[double0]

As for the five points I thought a bit hard on Rose

 

[Shea]

Sterling never played.

I think we attacked well enough and yes we do need more pacy options.

Lol yea I know Sterling never played - I meant he offers them that usually rather than specifically last night

I think we played well but I think attack wise, directly compared to them they were more threatening. We didn't often get beyond them and we didn't create as many good chances as I feel we could have considering the possession we had and the about of times we were around their box

A misplaced pass here or there, no one really able to dribble beyond them and too many shots from distance

We seemed to have a lot of corners and fail to take advantage of them

Maybe I was just nervous watching the game but I felt they looked like scoring more often than we did

As for Rose - he was getting done all the time when he was attacked directly and his challenge for the penalty was silly (but then he tried the same thing against Arsenal and it was a world class challenge, fine margins but last night he should have left Sturridge for the two players who were goal side of him to deal with)

 

[wakefieldyid]

As for the five points I thought a bit hard on Rose

One of the obvious problems of Pochetino's style is that it asks an awful lot from the fullbacks. You need someone with aggressive attacking instinct to provide width, but this leaves huge gaps down our flanks when we lose possession. Liverpool saw this and had the willing runners to exploit it. Rose isn't the greatest defensive left back because he's not naturally left sided, but it's the system that makes him look worse.

 

[yiddopaul]

Sterling never played.

I think we attacked well enough and yes we do need more pacy options.

I agree. I think we played well generally. People saying they wish we could attack like Pool. I think we do. Just ask Arsenal and Chelsea. Last night could have gone either way.

 

[ginola007]

One of the obvious problems of Pochetino's style is that it asks an awful lot from the fullbacks. You need someone with aggressive attacking instinct to provide width, but this leaves huge gaps down our flanks when we lose possession. Liverpool saw this and had the willing runners to exploit it. Rose isn't the greatest defensive left back because he's not naturally left sided, but it's the system that makes him look worse.

As Gaz-Gammon pointed out, Danny Rose is really a winger. Perhaps better convert him into a midfield role and sell Townsend, who is very seldom selected nowadays.

 

[RonnyJaay]

Also Eriksens covering capability is a myth So not all down to Rose

 

[Sweetsman]

We were suffering from a bit of fatigue after the NLD and that may be why we misplaced a number of passes. Liverpool did not have as draining a game. Even Wenger stated that they were tired in the second half, thanks to the NLD.
If we're talking about pacy players, that Marez at Leicester looks good.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

As Gaz-Gammon pointed out, Danny Rose is really a winger. Perhaps better convert him into a midfield role and sell Townsend, who is very seldom selected nowadays.

I prefer Davies to Rose all day long. Rose gets caught out of position far too many times. Davies is a left back, Rose a failed left winger converted to that position. At the end of the day he's possibly better going forward than Davies but his primary role is to defend and he's not good enough against the best in this league and that's quite bloody obvious.

 

[Japhet]

One of the obvious problems of Pochetino's style is that it asks an awful lot from the fullbacks. You need someone with aggressive attacking instinct to provide width, but this leaves huge gaps down our flanks when we lose possession. Liverpool saw this and had the willing runners to exploit it. Rose isn't the greatest defensive left back because he's not naturally left sided, but it's the system that makes him look worse.

He's left footed and has always played on the left. As for the game, I think we need to have a different plan when teams set up 3 4 3. We either need to match up and slug it out or find a way to exploit the area where we have the numerical advantage.

 

[JoeT]

As Gaz-Gammon pointed out, Danny Rose is really a winger. Perhaps better convert him into a midfield role and sell Townsend, who is very seldom selected nowadays.

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

Harsh on Rose, who I think's been good this season.

No issues over our strength in depth, or Dowd's refereeing.

"Paulinho was ineffective in midfield and his introduction coincided with Tottenham losing their grip on the game, while Roberto Soldado is not an adequate goal threat when chasing the game."

Yes. Biggest wasters we've ever signed. I look forward to waving them goodbye.

 

[dk-yid]

I think it is spot on.

Rose has overall been great this season. My concerns is that his performances are improving at the top end but does not seem to raise his bottom end game and therefore goes on to have some nightmares occasionally.

On strength in depth this is so true, since we do not have the players to continue the same combination of aggression, quality and style when we have to rest some of our top performers. Eriksen was tired as was Mason on the night so with those two going of we lost some balance. Especially with Paulinho coming in to pair up with Bentaleb.

 

[longtimespur]

Also Eriksens covering capability is a myth So not all down to Rose

Their 3rd goal came by way of Chadli not tracking Llalana into our box.

But I do agree in the first half he was left exposed but second half MP seemed to have us doubling up on Ibe as Rose was having real trouble dealing with him on his own

 

[longtimespur]

On strength in depth this is so true, since we do not have the players to continue the same combination of aggression, quality and style when we have to rest some of our top performers. Eriksen was tired as was Mason on the night so with those two going of we lost some balance. Especially with Paulinho coming in to pair up with Bentaleb.

We could have done with Stambouli on the bench. Looking at the subs before the game I thought it was a very attacking squad. No real defensive cover apart from Fazio iirc.

 

[Sandwich Technician]

I think we were visibly tired after the teams thrilling exertions against Arsenal - however I still think we could have won this game with better decision making. Lamela had an excellent opportunity to release Eriksen in acres of space with nothing but an open goal in front of him, but inexplicably passed to Walker (I think) who had three defenders around him. Very poor choice and on such margins games are won and lost in this league.
Dembele seems reborn at the moment and was involved in our best attacks, and on another day with our defence - clearly our weak spot - remaining alert for the full 90+ minutes we could have come away with a draw at the very least. Compared to the frustrating and turgid snore-fest that's been served up over the last few years I am absolutely overjoyed with their latest performances, and seemingly this exciting young team has a promising future ahead of them. However having said that - we are Tottenham and things could go shit-shaped sideways at a moments notice - so I'm going to enjoy our youthful renaissance whilst it lasts. Long may it do so. Bring on the kids!

 

[Japhet]

I think it is spot on.

Rose has overall been great this season. My concerns is that his performances are improving at the top end but does not seem to raise his bottom end game and therefore goes on to have some nightmares occasionally.

On strength in depth this is so true, since we do not have the players to continue the same combination of aggression, quality and style when we have to rest some of our top performers. Eriksen was tired as was Mason on the night so with those two going of we lost some balance. Especially with Paulinho coming in to pair up with Bentaleb.

Sherwood used them together numerous times and it was, IMO, the weakest defensive combination of a CM pairing I can remember.