FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

[chas vs dave]

Which is why Nuno has to go ASAP, his energy is transmitted to the team

It wouldn’t be quite as bad if his coaching and general tactical awareness wasn’t also crap

Agreed. I was willing to give him time, but I cannot see anything to justify it.

You can't justify writing off a season as transition, when you are charging the highest St price in the league.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

He’s going to be up there as one of the worst managers we’ve ever had, keeps banging on about training sessions, yet every game we continue to have no shots on target ??‍

 

[waresy]

If he doesn't do something substantial - like switch formation or drop slow uncommitted players en masse - he's going to deserve the sack.

In all fairness to Nuno, and I'm not trying to defend the ponderous football he is serving up with our team here, but if he drops players from today to bring in other players who is it? The players that have come in for the UECL games haven't exactly given us much else against lesser opposition.

 

[slartibartfast]

No way our Daniel sacks the manager when we are only a couple of points off fourth - it’s not how his brain works …..

So what you're saying is, his brain works. Interesting.

 

[qqq1]

We're only 2 points behind 4th place. The season is salvageable if we make a change now. We all know we'll wait until it's too late though.

 

[jolsnogross]

In all fairness to Nuno, and I'm not trying to defend the ponderous football he is serving up with our team here, but if he drops players from today to bring in other players who is it? The players that have come in for the UECL games haven't exactly given us much else against lesser opposition.

True enough, but the status quo hasn't worked. Maybe a wing-back system could work, get Reguilon higher up the field with 2 forwards, and advanced midfielder, and the opposite wing-back flooding into the box. You'd still have 3 centre-backs and 2 holding mids supporting play or covering. DOing nothing isn't an option and trying to get whatever this is working seems doomed.

 

[goughie1966]

He's not up to the job and this was patently obvious when we hired him in the first place. So many good managerial options on the table, and Levy pinched pennies and went to the bargain bin. Ofc you get something subpar when you do that.

The Russians have a saying “the tight man always pays twice”. Levy fits this perfectly.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

We're only 2 points behind 4th place. The season is salvageable if we make a change now. We all know we'll wait until it's too late though.

That’s also why I just don’t see Levy sacking him any time soon.

 

[YB123]

In all fairness to Nuno, and I'm not trying to defend the ponderous football he is serving up with our team here, but if he drops players from today to bring in other players who is it? The players that have come in for the UECL games haven't exactly given us much else against lesser opposition.

Exactly. Our squad is absolutely shocking. I'd say we only have a true squad now of about 14/15. The likes of Leicester, Arsenal, West Ham have better squads than us. You'll prob give that the dislike button but their fringe/reserve players are stepping up in other competitions, comps more competitive than Conference.

 

[beats1]

Been saying this since we appointed him, he hired Pirlo to manage Juve when he had only had a weeks worth of managing experience with the B team. Nobody should be surprised. Juve knew he wasn’t a good DoF that’s why they didn’t renew his contract. Great scout and negotiator, bad dof.

Its funny, during the 00's we were singled out for being a mess due to our club structure at the time was alien to British football, We had:

Chairman (hands off)
Director of football
Coach
​

I always felt the problem with this experiment was that the DoF is associated with the success of the coach he hired. All of a sudden, if the coach isn't delivering, you start to feel the DoF has to either take charge and sack him or go down with the ship if the chairman isnt happy.

Then we fucked up by going back to this model and this feels like a repeat of Ramos and Commoli.

Thats why we got levy more involved as well as a committee to allow harry have more control than the coaches before but less than a fully grown manager

What we should have done is this:

Levy (less hands on)
Erik Ten Haag------------------
-------------- DoF
​

The DoF reports to both Levy and Ten Haag on transfers and scouting as well as delivering players but he has not impact on the manager and is separate from manager, with ETH and Levy deciding on what the deliverables are whilst Manager is assessed separate from the DoF and is their own entire entity.

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[Crow]

Maybe Nuno is just an anti-vaxxer and the players took his "No Shots" pregame speech the wrong way

 

[YB123]

That’s also why I just don’t see Levy sacking him any time soon.

The problem is, we are in a completely false position. We have probably accumulated around 5 points more than we deserve. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but if City and Wolves take their chances against us we would be where all the stats tell us, around the bottom 3.

And a big big issue is "nuno has shored up the defence". We are getting beat by 3 most games, on top of one of the worst attacks in league.

 

[PLTuck]

Home fans have turned. I believe he's now a dead man walking, and the players will know it too.

 

[YB123]

Its funny, during the 00's we were singled out for being a mess due to our club structure at the time was alien to British football, We had:

Chairman (hands off)
Director of football
Coach
​

I always felt the problem with this experiment was that the DoF is associated with the success of the coach he hired. All of a sudden, if the coach isn't delivering, you start to feel the DoF has to either take charge and sack him or go down with the ship if the chairman isnt happy.

Then we fucked up by going back to this model and this feels like a repeat of Ramos and Commoli.

Thats why we got levy more involved as well as a committee to allow harry have more control than the coaches before but less than a fully grown manager

What we should have done is this:

Levy (less hands on)
Erik Ten Haag------------------
-------------- DoF
​

The DoF reports to both Levy and Ten Haag on transfers and scouting as well as delivering players but he has not impact on the manager and is separate from manager, with ETH and Levy deciding on what the deliverables are whilst Manager is assessed separate from the DoF and is their own entire entity.

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Not an expert at all on football set ups but it amazes me the last word isnt down to the coach for a signing.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

No way our Daniel sacks the manager when we are only a couple of points off fourth - it’s not how his brain works …..

By the end of next week (if results go as we expect them to) if Nuno is still in a job, there will be riots 2.0

 

[wayneg]

“We shall focus on the recruitment of a new Head Coach. We are acutely aware of the need to select someone whose values reflect those of our great Club and return to playing football with the style for which we are known – free-flowing, attacking and entertaining - whilst continuing to embrace our desire to see young players flourish from our Academy alongside experienced talent."

Pathetic.

 

[rossdapep]

The pundits are saying tactical masterstroke, man United were amazing!

No they were shit, we were so bad we allowed them to win!

Yep. My brother is a United fan and doesn't think they played well really. Just took advantage of our shiteness

 

[EssexSH27]

Yep. My brother is a United fan and doesn't think they played well really. Just took advantage of our shiteness

Yup. Keane was spot on after game. Dog and Duck Sunday league side would’ve beaten Spurs today.

 

[C-oops]

True enough, but the status quo hasn't worked. Maybe a wing-back system could work, get Reguilon higher up the field with 2 forwards, and advanced midfielder, and the opposite wing-back flooding into the box. You'd still have 3 centre-backs and 2 holding mids supporting play or covering. DOing nothing isn't an option and trying to get whatever this is working seems doomed.

So reguilon can hit the first man with his crosses more often?

 

[S17PUR]

Feels like we've gone past the point of no return now, and we should just put Nuno out of his misery.

I feel for him, as by all accounts he's a decent bloke and he was pretty much destined to fail from day one. I think perhaps if he'd have got Traore in as he wanted, things may have been slightly better. We always seem to bring in managers and then fail to get the players they want though.

Really not sure where we go from here. I liked the idea of Rangnick as DoF because he had a philosophy and would have brought in a coach to employ that high pressing, aggressive front foot style. With Paratici, I'm not sure what his preferred style is. Defensive football?

We're a mess from top to bottom, but it's clear that the players aren't playing - or even running - for Nuno at the moment, so he's got to go sooner rather than later.