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Four "English" Clubs in Champs League Quarter Finals

PT

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Unprecedented feat for one country to be represented four times in the quarter finals of the Champions League.

Primarily because many countries only have three teams to represent them, as per that little Frenchman's demands. So this could be the first and last time it happens if our fourth slot gets removed.

Anyway, back to the title of the thread.

No prizes but one to ponder whilst chin stroking.

How many English players played in the first eleven of the four English clubs over the two legs?

My guess is out of 88 positions, no more than 25%, or 22 players played could play for England.

:duh:
 

Legend10

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Unprecedented feat for one country to be represented four times in the quarter finals of the Champions League.

Primarily because many countries only have three teams to represent them, as per that little Frenchman's demands. So this could be the first and last time it happens if our fourth slot gets removed.

Anyway, back to the title of the thread.

No prizes but one to ponder whilst chin stroking.

How many English players played in the first eleven of the four English clubs over the two legs?

My guess is out of 88 positions, no more than 25%, or 22 players played could play for England.

:duh:


Your optimistic with 25%.

O for Arse stated the 2 games although Walcott did play about 20 minutes in total.

For Liverpool only Gerrard & Carragher started although Crouch did get a run out in the 1st leg.

For Utd I think they had Ferdinand, Brown, hargreaves, carrick & Rooney at some point or another.

The Chavs had Cole, Terry, Cole, Lampard & Bridge at some point or another.

Don't think I missed anybody, anyway that gives 14 but does include fleeting sub only appearances from the likes of walcott and Crouch.

Anywat here's hoping they all get knocked out in the quarters.
 

DFF

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I think having 3/4 teams in the Semi-Finals be English last year meant more than this. Although i realise that there is a chance it could be 4/4 this year, unlikely as it may be (around 23% to even get a draw that would allow it, i think).
 

BoringOldFan

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Yup I think there were only a dozen English players in our quarterfinal quartet. But then again Inter excelled themselves by having precisely zero Italian players in their side last night. I always thought there were at least half a dozen Italian players in all of their top sides, which is why their national team was so strong.
 

TheChosenOne

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Yup I think there were only a dozen English players in our quarterfinal quartet. But then again Inter excelled themselves by having precisely zero Italian players in their side last night. I always thought there were at least half a dozen Italian players in all of their top sides, which is why their national team was so strong.


I didn't realise that, I watched the game and assumed there were a few Italians namewise.

(Like Viera eh?)
 

PT

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Good point BOF and I feel that this national identity situation is going to be central to how UEFA take forward the issue of how the Champions League and UEFA Cup competitions evolve in time.

In addition, with England not having qualified for the latest Finals, there is bound to be some hypothesis as to why it happened, or didn't, as the case may be.

Does the premiership gain its rightful status as the premier domestic competition becuase of it's attaction to the top European players, or because of the money that we can pay the top European players?

If there is a player import quota in place, would that money which is being haemouraged out of the country via agents and link-men be better off being spent on better training facilities for our domestic youth?

Would the fact that clubs in the Premiership would only be able to field five non-Briish players, for example, lower the football fare being served up or would it encourage, the second tier of the Club's players to step up and strive for parity on the world stage?

David Bentley is an example of a reserve player from the ranks at a top English club having to request a transfer to a lower status club which would offer him first team football.
 

Legend10

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3 of the top Euopean nations have little or no representation in the Premiership.

Those countries being Spain, Germany & Italy.

Leading spanish players (Fabregas, Torres) lesser lights would be (Alonso, Reina & Arteta)

Leading Germans (Ballack) lesser lights (Huth)

Italians (I can't think of any)

Add in Brazil & Argentina

Brazil (none of the big names)

Argentina (Tevez & Mascerano)


I'm sure I've missed some but even so you end up with 5 of the worlds top 7 or 8 footballing nations having very little representation in the Premier league.
 

Kendall

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and yet it's still the top league in the world.

It's just a matter of time before more Brazillians end up here.
 

idlepete

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We'll never have as many South Americans as Spain or Italy though. They'll hand out work permits to anyone who can kick a ball.
 

hellava_tough

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I suppose it's all down to the obscene amount of cash in the EPL.

Sure, most leagues in Europe have their big clubs, but even our small clubs are filthy rich by comparison.

http://www.toffsworld.com/horse-and...mier-league-clubs-spend-record-transfer-fees/

In pre-season (07/08) 12 EPL clubs spent over £20million. Man City, a mid-table club the season before, spent £37million and even Sunderland spent £35million.

This has led to an intensity in competition within the EPL, which in turn has led to the teams within the league improving, compared to their European counterparts.

I think this has a real affect on our top 4, who have to play 38 bloody tough matches in a season. Apart from Derby, there isn't any dross in the EPL. By comparison, Real Madrid, Barca, Inter, B. Munich, PSV, etc have about 10 difficult domestic matches to play every year; the remaining fixtures for them aren't much of a challenge.

And I can only see the EPL going from strength to strength, as even more revenue comes pouring into clubs' coffers.

The Premiership created a 'Top Four' in the top flight of English football- they might just create a 'Top Four' in Europe as well!
 

worcestersauce

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Yup I think there were only a dozen English players in our quarterfinal quartet. But then again Inter excelled themselves by having precisely zero Italian players in their side last night. I always thought there were at least half a dozen Italian players in all of their top sides, which is why their national team was so strong.

The other way round BOF, all their world cup winning players play in the Italian league.

Now all the English players are here I guess that ought to auger well for England in the Euro's this summer. oops shit I forgot!! alright maybe the world cup then espacially as we have an Italian coach.
 
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