Gareth Bale (Rumour to Deal Done)

[Learn2Eel]

ARRRGGGGHHHH

He IS worth that much to US. It's a compensation payment! We set that amount, GB to play for us for 3 years with the champs league money, the extra marketing etc. If anything he's now MORE expensive than he was at the start of the window... COMPENSATION NOT PRICE!!!

You know, I know how transfers work. I'm not an idiot. Using Caps Lock doesn't do anything to help your argument, it just makes you look like a sook.

The reality people need to accept is that if Bale actually does want to go, we need to get the best deal available for him, and that would be right about now while we actually can get 60 million plus for him guaranteed. There are too many risks with the following season that might see his value wane; his form might drop off, our other star players may steal some of his spot-light, he might not play well due to unhappiness at a lack of a move, etc. I'm being realistic and accepting that, were he to leave - and if he wants to leave, we shouldn't keep him in case he acts up (not that I think he would, personally) - we need to set a price that is realistic. I'm happy for him to stay, but people need to think straight if they can't see that 70 million pounds up front is ridiculous money and would allow us to dramatically improve our squad in his stead.

 

[seanwhite1961]

That's a long way from the £93m(108.5m euros) being touted a few days ago. I don't see Morata or Coentrao being part of any deal; the latter was pulled out of negotiations earlier in the week. For a full payment of £70m, the overall total with player is likely to be about £10m less than the £86m payment over 4 years.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Real Madrid have made two different offers for Gareth Bale and are waiting to see which one Tottenham Hotspur will accept for the Wales winger.

The first offer is €100m (£86m) with structured payments over three to four years, which would surpass the world record fee Real paid Manchester United for Cristiano Ronaldo (£80m).

The other is an up-front, one-off payment which will be closer to £70m.
A player could also be thrown in as a makeweight in the second deal.

Spurs should set out what the deal is not Real Madrid! Sick of being walked over, Perez will look like a fool if he can't get it done now, so we should except neither offer, tell them its £100m and to phone back when they are ready to pay. If not Perez can walk out on his stage and play on the wing himself, see how that goes down with RM fans.

 

[Learn2Eel]

They are not suitable, because Levy had set his price and set the way he wanted the payments. Neither of those offers meet his criteria. Whether or not we, the fans, agree or not is another matter that isn't relevant.

Thought we had already agreed to £85m in two installments? Another day, another fee.

Are we even sure 85 million (or whatever it is) is the price he wants? If this rumoured offer is true and we see Bale in a Real Madrid jersey in a few days then it will probably expose that the media has inflated his price greatly.

 

[Joeyboey]

I've said it before, i'll say it again, the second he signs for Madrid I will no longer give a shit as to what he does with his career.

Not sour grapes, just no longer relevant to me.

*Agree*

If he was to give us one more season, I'd follow his career and hope he succeeds everywhere he goes.

 

[portogirl]

Don't worry folks - I think we are fast approaching Levy time on this one

 

[easley91]

That's a long way from the £93m(108.5m euros) being touted a few days ago. I don't see Morata or Coentrao being part of any deal; the latter was pulled out of negotiations earlier in the week. For a full payment of £70m, the overall total with player is likely to be about £10m less than the £86m payment over 4 years.

From what I can tell, the fee mooted in the media changes every few days. Nothing is certain, and that is my only bit of hope in keeping Bale. The fee/deal has changed several times in the last month.

 

[easley91]

Are we even sure 85 million (or whatever it is) is the price he wants? If this rumoured offer is true and we see Bale in a Real Madrid jersey in a few days then it will probably expose that the media has inflated his price greatly.

Perez inflated the price himself at the start of all this. He himself stated they'd be happy to pay £80m+ for Bale. So I see no reason why we should accept anything less.

 

[Learn2Eel]

Bale's marketing worth to us is phenomenal. That, factored with his remaining contract time, age, qualitative value to us as a footballer, and also, let's not forget, RM, who have whipped this whole thing up and raised his price by their own stupidity, validates his valuation at this point. RM played his price up themselves, that's market. We hold the player and all of the cards, we call the tune. They whistle it or do one.

Is Bale worth it? Of fucking course he is. Even if he wasn't we'd have to screw RM deep and hard for taking the unholy piss this window.

*sigh*

Ask yourself, was Cristiano Ronaldo worth the price Real Madrid paid?
If yes, then Bale is not worth a similar (or higher) sum, simple as that. Gareth Bale is a long way away from the player Ronaldo was when he left England.
If no, then the figure being touted is ridiculous anyway.

People need to wake up and smell reality. We will never get that fee for him, and he is worth nowhere near that much. No player is, with the possible exception of Messi.

 

[minesadouble]

As I posted the other day, Madrid has two big loan instalments to repay its bankers (Santander and Caja Madrid) in 2014 and 2015 unless they have managed to renegotiate. The problem of staged payments over 4 years is that they could be proposing 1 + 1 + 20 + 64 = 86m. I know I'm exaggerating to make the point. But 86m back-ended is useless to us. But knocking off 16m for cash = 70m is a hell of a discount, especially if a player is thrown in at an expensive valuation.

 

[thinktank]

*sigh*

Ask yourself, was Cristiano Ronaldo worth the price Real Madrid paid?
If yes, then Bale is not worth a similar (or higher) sum, simple as that. Gareth Bale is a long way away from the player Ronaldo was when he left England.
If no, then the figure being touted is ridiculous anyway.

People need to wake up and smell reality. We will never get that fee for him, and he is worth nowhere near that much. No player is, with the possible exception of Messi.

Read my post again and make an attempt to understand the content this time.

 

[Learn2Eel]

With a week to go??? This is NOT football manager. At this point in time GB to spurs is priceless... Priceless... JL and DL know it.

Eriksen, Alderweild, Lamela, Chiriches, Mata (if Willian signs for Chelsea), perhaps even Willian if AVB wants him that badly, and any potential swap deals from Madrid. All or most of whom have been regularly spoken about as available.

The reality is, we look set to lose our prize asset with a week to go.

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

We should ride the fack out of them for all their worth. Every last peseta (and yes, I know that's no longer the currency of Spain!)

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

Why do people think its sour grapes when others say he won't succeed. He won't succeed and I've made posts backing up this point with logic.

 

[Moonie]

Spurs should set out what the deal is not Real Madrid! Sick of being walked over, Perez will look like a fool if he can't get it done now, so we should except neither offer, tell them its £100m and to phone back when they are ready to pay. If not Perez can walk out on his stage and play on the wing himself, see how that goes down with RM fans.

Didn't levy mess Lyon about with the Lloris deal? I'm sure Lyon said a fee was agreed but at the last minute low balled them with a smaller offer? If he has done that for a player WE want, what would he do to Real with the most expensive player in the world who we really don't want to sell? I bet he'll up at anti at the last moment. You can just see levy saying "ah Mr Perez you remember our gentleman's agreement of £85m, well I've had a rethink, it's now £105m..up front, in crisp £5 notes, delivered to my office by 4:30pm today" "But mr Levy that's 10 minutes away!"
"You better hurry up then"

 

[Learn2Eel]

Read my post again and make an attempt to understand the content this time.

I understood it the first time. We can set as high a price as we want (but methinks it isn't as high as the media believes), but if Bale wants to leave and it causes us issues (i.e. he doesn't want to play/form drops off) then we will be compelled to sell him, ala Modric. In that case, setting an unrealistic (and yes, anything above probably 90 million is unrealistic, people need to stop smelling roses) price won't do anything to suit our cause if he actually does want to leave, which everyone seems to think he does.

So no, he is not worth that price. Not even close.

 

[tiger666]

Eriksen, Alderweild, Lamela, Chiriches, Mata (if Willian signs for Chelsea), perhaps even Willian if AVB wants him that badly, and any potential swap deals from Madrid. All or most of whom have been regularly spoken about as available.

The reality is, we look set to lose our prize asset with a week to go.

Mata

 

[ExpatFan]

Gareth Bale: Real Madrid give Spurs two bid options for winger

By Dan RoanBBC chief sports correspondent

Real Madrid have made two different offers for Gareth Bale and are waiting to see which one Tottenham Hotspur will accept for the Wales winger. [/quote]

Ha, ha. And what makes RM or you, Dan Roan, think Levy will accept either?

 

[thinktank]

I understood it the first time. We can set as high a price as we want (but methinks it isn't as high as the media believes), but if Bale wants to leave and it causes us issues (i.e. he doesn't want to play/form drops off) then we will be compelled to sell him, ala Modric. In that case, setting an unrealistic (and yes, anything above probably 90 million is unrealistic, people need to stop smelling roses) price won't do anything to suit our cause if he actually does want to leave, which everyone seems to think he does.

So no, he is not worth that price. Not even close.

I give up.

 

[amathews3416]

Why do people think its sour grapes when others say he won't succeed. He won't succeed and I've made posts backing up this point with logic.

I think Gareth will do well but maybe not to the standards of what is going to be expected out of him. If this is a world record breaking transfer, there is going to be immense pressure on Gareth to deliver big time and I mean at the level of what Ronaldo has done the past couple of years at RM. Bale is obviously an immense talent, but he is not at that consistent level yet of a Ronaldo and won't be able to deliver consistent, brilliant performances that will be expected out of him.