Gareth Bale

[benschiffer]

I've got no idea about Kane and us, but I think Hercules has hinted that United would suffer because of the parity clauses in several of their players contracts.

And I guess they're working on a monster contract for De Gea too.

A lurker friend of mine just mentioned Liverpool though. Christ.

 

[minesadouble]

Parity with what? In my example Bale would get £200k pw from Spurs (and £200k pw equivalent from RM, probably paid as some kind of "release fee" on departure). So at Spurs he'd be on similar to Kane. Same applies to United however IF they were able to negotiate the same deal. If Bale's on £400k from Man U then their parity clauses are very expensive. If on £200k from Man U it might not be so much of a problem for them either.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I was at a conference at NWHL yesterday (which was amazing) but after the conference I met the legend that is Clive Allen. Anyway he spoke about his career and happened to mention Bale to China and why he shouldn't go. He then said he would be much better off back here, I then asked well is he coming back? He smiled and said I hope so. But and it is only a but 'I read more into it' it seemed like he knew something. Could be balls of course but I'm still hoping. Anyway what a nice guy he was, signed my kids shirts for me and was happy for anyone to have a picture with him.

Cool info mate. I actually know CA via his family top top bloke and obvs huge spurs fan, he’ll still have connections sure but I wouldn’t read too much into that as I think he’s just like us and he’d want it to happen as he’s a fan just like us.

 

[Deleted member 22380]

If we did get him VDV style...where the hell we gonna play him?? We'll have Son, Moura, Alli, Lamela and looking likely Lo Celso (I know he plays CM too) and potentially Eriksen all playing for the same three or even two positions.

It's this and the financial side of it that makes me feel it just will not happen.

I feel Bale's best position is a no. 10, which where he played in his final season at spurs under AVB.

But the beauty of Bale, Son, Dele, Eriksen, Lucas and Lamela is that can play all 3 attacking midfield positions - left, right and central. So they will each interchange and rotate.

Ndombele-Lo Celso
(Sissoko-Winks)

Son-Bale-Dele
(Lucas-Eriksen-Lamela)

Kane
(Parrott)

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I still think the most probable scenario is that he stays at madrid, but if he was to go, there are really not too many options.

I put a fiver on him going to spurs last week (risky!)

The reason I did this is that if he was to go, there are not many clubs that could actually afford him or would invest,if any.

Cross out juve (business done and Ronaldo), bayern (money, language, age etc) psg are dependent on the Neymar deal and united won't risk another Sánchez and i doubt bale would be interested in fighting for the top 6.

Very left field, but Liverpool are the only club that could in theory do it. No idea if they would.

Which leaves us, and it makes so much sense on so many levels.

First full season in the new stadium - tick
Huge public exposure for our club - tick
Emotions - massive tick
World class footballer - tick (i almost forgot that one)
Shirt sales and merchandise - tick

Now that last one is the magic one, bale Is a superstar, after ronaldo, Messi and Neymar he is still probably the most marketable player. More so than any other real Madrid player. Imagine him, son and kane.

We are not eating at the big boys table (world fame wise) this would help us reach that level.

I think levy will do it, even if it costs a few bob. But he will leave it to the last minute.

All I can say is deadline day could be the best ever.

If he signs for spurs he will probably earn us more than he costs.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Awesome to see you posting on this subject again @minesadouble

I've been playing it out in a similar way in my head throughout the saga, but could never have articulated it as well, albeit with me it's a completely uninformed opinion! It does seem like bringing Bale back around the time the new stadium opens has always been something Levy has fancied, hence the clause. I've just had a feeling Levy and Barnett are working together on this all along, albeit never convinced it'll all come together.

It's been obvious for a long time that Barnett is playing poker with RM, and RM have been doing their utmost to extract maximum value from Bale, either through China or via a part-ex for Pogba, Eriksen or Neymar. With the Chinese window shutting on the 31st, and assuming neither part-ex option is taken up, I do wonder if it'll bring RM to the table with us more seriously, and if anyone can get creative with a deal like this, I think Levy is the man for it (we even had a cheeky tip from Herc along those lines this week).

The funny thing is I think we are far from desperate for him such is the strength of our attack now. It'd be freaking amazing if it did come off though, and I can see why Levy would like to do it.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

I often wonder whether the elite footballers have ANYTHING to do with their twitter accounts, or whether it's all thought up/written by their reps.

Ask lingaard

 

[JOLLHURN]

Ask lingaard

He said 'elite' footballers

 

[tommyt]

Imagine the scenes...

 

[Japhet]

Dod adref Gareth Bach.

Hold on!! I can do the Heimlich Monoeuvre!!

 

[glospur]

I'm not lying when I say that I've thought about the roar when Bale is presented to the crowd at half time of the Villa game after a deadline day move at least once every few days for the last couple of weeks.

I know it's almost impossible, but I always keep thinking what if...

 

[Japhet]

If we did get him VDV style...where the hell we gonna play him?? We'll have Son, Moura, Alli, Lamela and looking likely Lo Celso (I know he plays CM too) and potentially Eriksen all playing for the same three or even two positions.

It's this and the financial side of it that makes me feel it just will not happen.

I'm not fussed about Bale but we need to get away from the 'where will he play' mentality. We need to operate on 18 or so players rotating regularly and everybody getting a chance to recharge and recoup. We ran our best XI into the ground last season precisely because we didn't have enough quality options.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

I believed it had a fair chance of happening but with this Ascencio injury I can't see it anymore

 

[Deleted member 29446]

I believed it had a fair chance of happening but with this Ascencio injury I can't see it anymore

Asensio

 

[yankspurs]

I believed it had a fair chance of happening but with this Ascencio injury I can't see it anymore

Real Madrid would like that. Zidane blew it though. His quotes destroyed any chance of a reconciliation.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

Spurs buying an out of favour Madrid player for a cut price on deadline day? nah wouldnt happen

 

[BedfordshireSpud]

I'm not lying when I say that I've thought about the roar when Bale is presented to the crowd at half time of the Villa game after a deadline day move at least once every few days for the last couple of weeks.

I know it's almost impossible, but I always keep thinking what if...

Then him ripping apart City the following week. Would be nice....If only!

 

[RikkiRocket]

Here is an update to my post in this Bale thread on 15th May 2019 (page 9, post #178).

Link

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/gareth-bale.136353/page-9#post-6341439

I wrote the following back then:

“So there is a stand-off between Madrid and Bale with Daniel Levy lurking in the wings. Netflix should produce the box set. High stakes poker and soap opera combined. Nobody, but nobody, is simply going to bale Madrid out (pun intended).”
I added at the end:

It’s all about a 3-way split of £600k per week; what pay cut would the player accept and then how much RM and the other (buying) club pay each. The question is will our chairman be prepared to shell out what’s left of Bale’s annual wages after RM and the player have reached a compromise?”

To clarify what I was saying back then, there’s no question of a transfer fee. Never has been. If I take a huge financial liability off your hands (£90 million or so over three years) I don’t pay you for the pleasure of helping you out. You pay me. To illustrate the point, simply as an example;

Gareth Bale, Real Madrid and Spurs agree to an equal 3-way split to try and resolve the situation. So Gareth accepts a compromise 1/3 cut in his salary to ‘only’ £60 million over 3 years. Real Madrid pays ½ of that £60 million and Spurs pay the other ½ of the £60 million (call that £200k per week and a free signing). Now, there are several ways this could be constructed but an equal 3-way split would be the net result. I’m not saying that’s what everybody would agree to. If the split was 10% from Bale, 40% from RM and 50% from Spurs, the figures would change but the basic principle would be the same.

We are now nearing the end game of this box-set saga.

To update, let’s boil it down to four possible scenarios:

1. Bale stays at RM on £30m p.a., sits on the bench and plays golf

2. Bale takes his young family to China and sees out his playing days there (or with the possible twist he later moves to Europe or USA)

3. Bale stays in mainland Europe, probably Bayern or PSG.

4. Bale returns to the PL, probably United or Spurs.

I suspect (with some evidence but no proof) that Bale’s agent and our chairman are “on the same page” if not exactly in cahoots. This is all playing out exactly as they both knew it would several months ago. RM’s position gets sillier and more desperate by the day. RM have finally come to terms with a (heavily) subsidized loan deal being the only way they can shift GB at some kind of acceptable cost. Which is exactly why Barnett knocked that idea on its head yesterday. A loan deal means GB would still ‘belong’ to RM. But he wants ‘out’. If that costs RM even more, why should Bale and Barnett make things easy? They hold, literally, all the legal cards in this game of poker, which is why RM are using every other nasty tactic they can think of.

1. Bale has to be “prepared to stay” at RM. That’s just his legal position and contractual right. To actually say otherwise he’d be shooting himself in the foot. But people and pundits who take the whole ‘play golf’ stance seriously need to get out more.

2. Bale has to be prepared to consider China. Legally, he’s fulfilling his obligation to Madrid to look at all the options.

3. Bale has to be prepared to consider Bayern and PSG. He’s probably giving them serious consideration. But does he want to uproot to another culture, another foreign language, and play in loads of one-sided matches? I don’t see either as his preferred destination. I’m not sure either club wants him or to help Madrid out.

4. Bale would, I’m sure, consider United. Who wouldn’t? But they’re not the attraction they once were and are they in for him? Manchester isn’t Germany or France but it isn’t London either.

IMO, Bale’s preference is London and Spurs. And that’s a shit-show for RM. Because they’d probably rather deal with Satan, or Boris Johnson, than Daniel Levy. They know this time they’re going to be handed their cojones on a plate. Eriksen and Ceballos were simply warm up discussions for the main event.

People forget it’s 2019 not 1979. A Club can’t just ‘sell’ a contracted player and force him to go to any club. Certainly not a high profile multi-millionaire. Bale has to say yes to the terms and, above all, the destination. RM will naturally want him to go the least costly way possible (to them). Gareth will naturally want to go to his favoured destination, regardless of the cost to RM.

Like I said two months ago, ‘high stakes poker and soap opera combined’. Now enter the hero, or villain, depending on your POV. Daniel’s passed the summer focused on Poch’s main targets knowing that this moment would come in time. His target. Why have we stalled on Llorente? Why did Poch say in his press conference he didn’t know about Llorente? Because he wanted to deflect the question. That squad slot is reserved, just in case. Right wing, left wing, reserve striker, combined. Home grown too.

Meanwhile, it’s unfair on GB because he has to keep his mouth shut throughout the saga while all kinds of shit are spouted by Madrid mouthpieces, English journo hacks, Talkshite pundits and angry keyboard warriors. He’s had his reputation trashed and motives slammed by all and sundry entitled to an ‘opinion’.

It was interesting to see his goal ‘celebration’ in RM’s friendly versus Arsenal. Madrid picked him purely for legal reasons (in the event of a future contractual dispute). I suspect he played for similar reasons as well as just to get some pitch time. He certainly didn’t get carried away that he scored.

Time will tell. Not long left now.

I have a boner.

 

[thehipster]

Would the current version of Bale buy-in to the hard work of the pressing game it looks like we’re going to re-apply to our game this season?
Poch likes everyone to commit to his style and demands.
If one person doesn’t commit 100% to the pressing game - then it gives others licence to renege on their duties.
Either everyone buys-in...or it doesn’t work as well.

So just wondering (in my own head) as to how much running and hard work Gareth would put in?
Or would he want to protect himself and save himself for big moments and matches?

I suppose the benefit of having a bigger and more capable squad is that we can press...and rotate players to give them rest.

 

[even steven]

Value at 50/1?