Harry Kane

[dagraham]

That wasn't a pen, he dived or went to ground too easily let's be real and rightly or wrongly he's starting to get a reputation for it - it reminded me when Vardy was doing it a few years ago and he was getting slated by many of our fans so let's try and keep the same energy yeah?

Last week's one however was as blatant as they come.

I thought Souness summed it up well. Yes there was contact on his back, but it’s a contact sport and there wasn’t enough of a push to cause Kane to fall the way he did.

I also don’t understand what other penalties given have to do with it?

 

[Japhet]

It was stone-wall as well, imo. You just can't not get the ball and clatter into somebody. Doesn't matter if they're already going down, or going away from goal - if you lunge into a player and don't get the ball first - it's a foul. If we conceded that as a penalty, I'd call our defender a moron and accept it.

I bet our fans acting like it wasn't a pen willingly accepted the penalty on Aubameyang last year.

There's no contact at all on Kane's legs and yet the moment he feels contact on his back, his legs freeze in position and he goes over. If the defender gets his leg in front of Kane there's a reason for him to go over like that but all he got was a tiny nudge in the back. The unfortunate thing is that plenty of those are given when they shouldn't be, but that doesn't change the fact that Kane went over too easily and caused any contact himself in the first place.

 

[donny1013]

It was stone-wall as well, imo. You just can't not get the ball and clatter into somebody. Doesn't matter if they're already going down, or going away from goal - if you lunge into a player and don't get the ball first - it's a foul. If we conceded that as a penalty, I'd call our defender a moron and accept it.

I bet our fans acting like it wasn't a pen willingly accepted the penalty on Aubameyang last year.

That was my first thought regarding the Aubameyang pen last year, Sanchez puts his hands on him and pen gets given. Not the media furore of calling him a diver though.

 

[Gassin's finest]

There's no contact at all on Kane's legs and yet the moment he feels contact on his back, his legs freeze in position and he goes over. If the defender gets his leg in front of Kane there's a reason for him to go over like that but all he got was a tiny nudge in the back. The unfortunate thing is that plenty of those are given when they shouldn't be, but that doesn't change the fact that Kane went over too easily and caused any contact himself in the first place.

And yet someone like Salah will collapse when startled by a loud cough, and will get the Pen. Come on.

 

[Spurrific]

There's no contact at all on Kane's legs and yet the moment he feels contact on his back, his legs freeze in position and he goes over. If the defender gets his leg in front of Kane there's a reason for him to go over like that but all he got was a tiny nudge in the back. The unfortunate thing is that plenty of those are given when they shouldn't be, but that doesn't change the fact that Kane went over too easily and caused any contact himself in the first place.

Tbf, if this sets a precedent and they stop giving these pens, I'm all for it. But the amount you see given that are even softer than this is unbelievable. Kane sells himself short when he goes down, because we all know how strong he is.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I thought Souness summed it up well. Yes there was contact on his back, but it’s a contact sport and there wasn’t enough of a push to cause Kane to fall the way he did.

I also don’t understand what other penalties given have to do with it?

I thought he talked utter rubbish yesterday, why contact him with extended arms at all? Why pin him to the ground?

Kane has been robbed by refs before and no doubt it'll happen again.

 

[dondo]

I don't think it was stonewall yesterday but it was more of a penalty than the one Arsenal missed in the game at the end of last season. With the way Atkinson refereed the game you have to feel that if that had been up the other end he'd have given it, he was wildly inconsistent all game.

He was a picture book homer ref yesterday. Let xaka get away with countless fouls and only booked him late on and our players seemed to get booked for every foul

 

[Tucker]

He was a picture book homer ref yesterday. Let xaka get away with countless fouls and only booked him late on and our players seemed to get booked for every foul

Atkinson had an awful game yesterday. How on Earth Xhaka wasn’t sent off for his repeated fouls I don’t know, should have been booked early in the game, and should have definitely been booked for the penalty.

He’s an absolute liability, I’d be having kittens every time he tackled someone if he played for us.

 

[14/04/91]

I thought Souness summed it up well. Yes there was contact on his back, but it’s a contact sport and there wasn’t enough of a push to cause Kane to fall the way he did.

I also don’t understand what other penalties given have to do with it?

Anywhere else on the pitch & it’s a free kick. There were a few very similar incidents in the first half, involving Torreira principally, where players were going over at the slightest hint of contact.

And other penalties have lots to do with it. There should be consistency.

 

[14/04/91]

Atkinson had an awful game yesterday. How on Earth Xhaka wasn’t sent off for his repeated fouls I don’t know, should have been booked early in the game, and should have definitely been booked for the penalty.

He’s an absolute liability, I’d be having kittens every time he tackled someone if he played for us.

And Xhaka was finally booked hauling back Kane to prevent a counter. Which he wouldn’t have been able to do on a yellow (without getting sent off).
He got away with ridiculous persistent fouling; I think Neville said it (the yellow) was his 8th foul whereas a number of our bookings were for only 1 or 2 fouls. Inconsistent yet again.

 

[double0]

Harry Kane is becoming a target for ridicule like Alli for people to point the finger. I swear most of it comes from opposing jealous fans but now you're hearing such nonsense from our own fans, in fact I've heard it loads of times that Kane should be dropped (there's rumour that one of the major fall out behind the scenes are the players ain't happy with Poch that Moura was dropped for Kane in the CL final) that we are a better team without Kane.. I just want to punch people in the face people forget or fail the see all the work Kane does off the ball like winning the header for our first goal against Arsenal, so many short memories.

Poor D Alli. I've read some fools slating him in there write up saying he never did anything when he came on and just looked fat. Some of our fans are becoming an embarrassment.

 

[dagraham]

Anywhere else on the pitch & it’s a free kick. There were a few very similar incidents in the first half, involving Torreira principally, where players were going over at the slightest hint of contact.

And other penalties have lots to do with it. There should be consistency.

You are never going to get complete consistency over what is an subjective decision. I don’t think Kane blatantly dived, but I simply don’t think there is enough contact to warrant a penalty.

 

[Legacy]

Atkinson had an awful game yesterday. How on Earth Xhaka wasn’t sent off for his repeated fouls I don’t know, should have been booked early in the game, and should have definitely been booked for the penalty.

He’s an absolute liability, I’d be having kittens every time he tackled someone if he played for us.

Seems to be a regular occurence when we play them. Xhaka goes flying in to fouls all game and only gets booked right at the very end of the game.

 

[Legacy]

You are never going to get complete consistency over what is an subjective decision. I don’t think Kane blatantly dived, but I simply don’t think there is enough contact to warrant a penalty.

Yet if the roles were reversed and the defender is trying to shield the ball out for a goal kick and Kane goes charging in to the back of him like that, the defender gets the foul and the free kick.

 

[Japhet]

And yet someone like Salah will collapse when startled by a loud cough, and will get the Pen. Come on.

I completely agree, but you can't point the finger at Salah (who absolutely deserves it) if you're not going to be honest about Kane. I fucking hate cheats and I don't put HK in that catagory, but he went over way too easily even though there was a bit of contact. On a different subject, how the fuck did Xhaka not get carded til the 92nd minute??

 

[dagraham]

Yet if the roles were reversed and the defender is trying to shield the ball out for a goal kick and Kane goes charging in to the back of him like that, the defender gets the foul and the free kick.

Yeah I take your point, but that has gone on in football since I first started watching it 35 years ago. And I don’t think Socrates charged into the back of Kane. He placed his hands on his back which you can argue is taking a risk, but I think as Kane says it is a 50/50 one. I personally think he was looking for it.

 

[Shadydan]

I thought Souness summed it up well. Yes there was contact on his back, but it’s a contact sport and there wasn’t enough of a push to cause Kane to fall the way he did.

I also don’t understand what other penalties given have to do with it?

What's there to understand?

 

[wrd]

The problem Kane has is that his fall is too telegraphed, he has the same technique every-time. I agree that a striker has every right to get between the defender and the ball and ask the defender the question but yesterday he went down far far too easily. It was obvious he was looking for it and I'd like to see him be stronger in those situations.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Any striker worth his salt is going down there, the state of some of these comments.

When a defender extends his arms into your back what else are you going to do? If one more person says he placed his hands on to Kanes back ... A shove is a shove.

 

[dagraham]

What's there to understand?

A lot of people are pointing to other pens given so therefore Kane’s one should have been.