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JUSTINSIGNAL

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One of the major reason why we are expected to be in the top 4 with the lowest resources is because of Kane, who didn’t cost us any money, do you honestly think Kane and his goals can be that easily replaced? And where did you get the confidence that Levy can make the right decision on signing the right players with his track record of all the players that we had missed due to his penny pinching

He obviously can’t easily be replaced. But we’re still in the conversation for top 4 after selling our best players in Bale, Berbatov and Modric in the past, so that tells me the recruitment has been good enough to keep us progressing even after losing massive talents.

It’s impossible to replace everything Kane brings to team but if we have the right manager in place and recruit smartly his skill set can be absorbed by the rest of the team. For example if we bought a goals scoring right wing forward to spread the load evenly among the front 3 rather than relying on 1-2 players.

I’m not even going to respond about perceived ‘penny-pinching’ as the reasons have been gone over a million times over in this thread.
 
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wrd

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The media do love a "gentleman's agreement". But without specificity, any such agreement is meaningless.

At the very most, Levy would have said to Harry that if Spurs fail to progress and if he was to receive an acceptable offer from an acceptable club, then he would let Harry leave. But not in a million years would Levy have specified what he deems to be an acceptable offer. So he won't be honour bound to let Harry leave.

I think any player believing into the sanctity of a gentlemans agreement is foolish, multiply that by 100 entering one with Levy. All it does is serve as potential to create a toxic atmosphere but I don't see Kane going down that road.
 

poc

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This is the same Bale had confirmed he wants to go back to Madrid. The best thing is for Harry to say nothing then he can't be accused of doing a Sol C***bell.
If we get money for him and he doesn’t go to Arsenal he would never be accused of doing a ......., can’t even write it.
 

John48

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But Levy's no gentleman, just ask anyone who has negotiated with him.

Can't believe Levy would have agreed to anything like this without the caveat that clubs would have to meet his valuation.
 

nedley

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Don’t think you can really judge Hitchen’s signings until we have a settled manager and he’s not being restricted financially by the stadium build.
As much as I'm disappointed with our business over the last few years or so, I'm with you on this. But players like Ndombele and Lo Celso HAVE to hit the ground running next season.

There is no excuse. They've had plenty of time to bed in.

If we are seeing the same 'meh' level of performances come December - ship em.
 

Johno1470

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Very little point discussing what happens with Kane until we get a manager in. If it's a project manager then he's off next summer. Need to be ambitious and get a top level manager in and throw some money in the summer window. Worse case scenario if we splash the cash and Kane wants off next summer, we recoup the money spent from his sale.
 

GiveMeMoura

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Now I don’t usually get any ITK but somehow I bumped into someone behind all this, got this snippet
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IamSpurtacus

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But Levy's no gentleman, just ask anyone who has negotiated with him.

Can't believe Levy would have agreed to anything like this without the caveat that clubs would have to meet his valuation.

Criticise levy all you want but he's very consistent - he's always been pragmatic with players who want to leave - he lets them go as long as the terms / destination are good for the club

Look at Modric - he refused to sell him to Chelsea, but said if an acceptable offer came in he'd let him leave - and he did...think Kane will be the same, like Bale, Berba, Carrick and all the other unrequited loves we've lost...
 

spursfan77

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Absurd money. Totally puts it in perspective.

People forget how much these people are paid. They need to stop thinking the give a fuck about the fans. They honestly don’t give a shit about us but enjoy the adulation.

Fans go on about how ENIC are this that and the other and are stealing from us. Well, they aren’t the only ones.
 

Nerine

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I don't believe a thing the media says regarding Kane. But, I'm cautions to believe sources saying he is staying, too, as that was also the mantra the summer Bale left.

I’ve been thinking this, also.
I wonder how many people have lumped on him staying at Spurs?
I wouldn’t be confident sticking a one-er on it.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Very good shout, on both points.

Admittedly I am not a scout by any means but other than Grealish I can't think of any other player in the league that can have the impact. Looks like it would have to be abroad which presents its own risk in itself.
We probably need to look beyond the Premier League to find the right player - like Utd did with Bruno, like Liverpool did with Salah and like we have done in the past with many of our best signings (Klinsmann, VDV, Modric, Bale, Alli, Lloris, Vertonghen, Son, Eriksen, Berbatov, Naybet etc.).
 

thebenjamin

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Not even sure what is the point of handcuffing him to the club if we have no intention of competing. Unless we're going to spend serious money on this squad and try and get back to the top of the table, just take the money and let him go. Basically keeping him just to say we kept him but not for any sporting reason.
 

stov

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Oh stop. It's the biggest story in the Premier League. Journalists are hardly going to leave that topic alone. They are doing their job. This topic is going to dominate our press conferences and in pundit discussions about Spurs until a week or so after the Summer window closes(IF Kane is still here). Might as well get used to it.
wish you'd stop. Of course they are going to ask questions, Its the tone of questioning - as if it was an inevitability and asking are the team devastated or upset.
 

Hotspur33

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One thing that gives me a bit of hope that he might stay at least another year is that a lot of the reports (of which there are many) are focused on Man United.
So I'm hoping it's just a case of media taking advantage of United's enormous fan base to get clicks, last year it was Sancho, this year Kane.
 

spursfan77

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Oh stop. It's the biggest story in the Premier League. Journalists are hardly going to leave that topic alone. They are doing their job. This topic is going to dominate our press conferences and in pundit discussions about Spurs until a week or so after the Summer window closes(IF Kane is still here). Might as well get used to it.

It will go on all summer and until he leaves. The trenches were dug ages ago.

They’ve all come out today talking about this “gentleman’s agreement” with Levy. If that’s true, how come it’s the first we’ve heard about it?
 

gio747

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Exactly, there’s not a chance in hell levy deals in gentlemens agreements. Harry made an agreement signed on paper.
 

Stamford

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We've had some very exciting teams that gave us fans quite a ride in the last 13 years:

1. The league cup winning team of 2008 (I still cannot decide if spanking Arsenal 5-1 in the semifinal was better than beating Chelsea at Wembley). This was the team that got us back into Europe on a regular basis after a long absence:

(Juande Ramos) Robinson, Hutton, King Woodgate, Chimbonda, Jenas, Zokora, Malbranque, Lennon, Keane, Berbatov

2. Just two years later and Harry Redknapp took a virtually totally different team into the CL, with amazing pace and power on the wings and the magic of Modric and VDV in the middle (it was the sale of Berbatov and Keane that effectively funded Bale, Modric and VDV).

(Harry Redknapp) Cudicini, Hutton, Kaboul, Gallas, Assou-Ekotto, Huddlestone, Modric, Lennon, Bale, VDV, Crouch

*If you'd had been told on the night we smashed Inter MIlan (Taxi for Macon in 2012) that none of this team or the manager would still be with us in 2015/16 how would you have reacted? Probably with total disdain and anger*

3. Then just a few years later we had the Poch era team, with totally different players, that went so close to winning the league (the sale of Bale and Modric helped fund this team).

(Mauricio Pochettino) Lloris, Walker, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose, Dier, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane

Across that time we lost some top players who all forced moves (Modric, Bale, Berbatov, Keane, Walker). But we always rebuilt and went again, each time getting stronger. We also built a world class stadium and training facility in that time.

If Kane (or Dele, or Son) does leave. Either this summer or next. Or even the summer after that. There will always be a replacement. A superstar of tomorrow. Will they be home grown (Parrot or Scarlett)? Will they be a foreign superstar? Who knows, but they will come.

I agree with everything you've written but these players want to leave because we aren't a winning team. Yes we've had good players and a good team and we will again but we now need to make that step to win otherwise we will find ourselves here again. Thats the point so many of us are trying to make.
 
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