Harry Winks - Leicester City

[McFlash]

To those who disliked this comment, rest assured it's a very well informed opinion. The guy has made some very questionable decisions.

I'm not too keen on the wording but I do agree with the sentiment.
From what we've heard over the years, he needs a reality check.

 

[piedpiper]

Maybe so, however the club should have got shot a while back. We all know he ran to the press when he wasn’t getting game time. I support everyone of our players and would agree with your stance if they had be professional. He has been anything but. He whines about game time and every time he played he was a passenger. You also make it sound like he is doing us a favour by honouring his contract. If he had anything about him he would have left and proved himself elsewhere.
Anyway as you can tell I have a strong opinion on the matter.

Except the press story is a BS story based on Chinese whispers.... if that were the case he'd have been dropped from the squad, not have represented the club in formal settings or been transfer listed and frozen last year already. So stop peddling a baseless story devoid of fact.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Except the press story is a BS story based on Chinese whispers.... if that were the case he'd have been dropped from the squad, not have represented the club in formal settings or been transfer listed and frozen last year already. So stop peddling a baseless story devoid of fact.

I mean in the same breath, how do you know it’s bullshit and wasn’t dealt with internally?

 

[piedpiper]

He only played because we were so threadbare. As soon as we had another option he was back on the bench, surely you can see that!

For an entire 2 years? Because that's how long that story has made the rounds. We have history of isolating players who crossed the line....

Danny Rose, Benoit Assou Ekotto, Kaboul, Andros Townsend, Adebayor and a few others whose names escape at this moment.

He never received that treatment....so why hold it against him when there is no conclusive proof he did anything thats alleged.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I think we can all agree that Winks time at the club is coming to an end. It's OK to be on a downer about him and if you must, about how he's conducted himself.

But there's no need for vitriol.

 

[Scot-Spur]

For an entire 2 years? Because that's how long that story has made the rounds. We have history of isolating players who crossed the line....

Danny Rose, Benoit Assou Ekotto, Kaboul, Andros Townsend, Adebayor and a few others whose names escape at this moment.

He never received that treatment....so why hold it against him when there is no conclusive proof he did anything thats alleged.

I mean have you seen our transfers for the last few years? That’s the reason we have had to buy 9 new players over two windows including 2 new centre midfielders. Our squad was a mess and that’s why he played. Winks is lucky because we chopped and changed manager. It’s the only reason he survived.

 

[DenverSpur]

TBH Samways was much better than all those you mention.

He used to frustrate the hell out of me but he always wanted the ball, never hid and always gave 100%. In some bizarre way he was one of my favorite players?‍.

 

[Roberts84]

Don’t worry. A few ITKs have said similar to you yet some people still defend him. Probably the same people who think he’s a decent player. The guy is a fraud, he’s played well for about 180 minutes in his entire career here. How he’s stolen a living and still at Spurs in 2022 I have no idea. Jose wanted rid and he should have gone then but Winks got lucky when Jose left.

He keeps trying to stick around thinking he can outlast the current manager and get another chance. Hopefully this summer is the one he finally jogs on. He’s only out for himself as his behaviour under Jose proved.

I’m not an avid Winks fan but he has had some good games and not so good games. He’s also a spurs boy at heart. I’m not privy to what he’s done or not done so hard to comment. But to say he’s stole a living, come on. What did he do - continually post negatively towards the clubs owner, constantly slag players off, dislike most signings or be overly critical of potential signings, moan at every opportunity about the club?

 

[ralphs bald spot]

I mean have you seen our transfers for the last few years? That’s the reason we have had to buy 9 new players over two windows including 2 new centre midfielders. Our squad was a mess and that’s why he played. Winks is lucky because we chopped and changed manager. It’s the only reason he survived.

he was poorly managed at Tottenham - Spurs had an obsession in trying to shoe horn midfielders into the gap created by moving on Dembele and despite Winks being totally unsuited to the role we tried to turn him into a defensive midfield player and as a result he became the ultra safe not taking any chances player that no one likes. That along with a couple of injuries turned a midfield player who was quite progressive capable of driving play forward and a full England international with 10 caps where he had some very decent games into a player who took no chances at all shame because he can play

 

[GazzaB]

For an entire 2 years? Because that's how long that story has made the rounds. We have history of isolating players who crossed the line....

Danny Rose, Benoit Assou Ekotto, Kaboul, Andros Townsend, Adebayor and a few others whose names escape at this moment.

He never received that treatment....so why hold it against him when there is no conclusive proof he did anything thats alleged.

Yep, we were thread bare for 2 yrs. Winks don't get a game in MANY Spurs midfield if all things are half decent.

 

[Jody]

I still think what Kane did was worse. Luckily for him he’s world class so all is forgiven! ?

 

[GazzaB]

he was poorly managed at Tottenham - Spurs had an obsession in trying to shoe horn midfielders into the gap created by moving on Dembele and despite Winks being totally unsuited to the role we tried to turn him into a defensive midfield player and as a result he became the ultra safe not taking any chances player that no one likes. That along with a couple of injuries turned a midfield player who was quite progressive capable of driving play forward and a full England international with 10 caps where he had some very decent games into a player who took no chances at all shame because he can play

Winks wasn't poorly mis managed mate. Hes had ample opportunity to prove himself and not come close. Like I said previously hes another o'hara bentaleb caskey without being as good as any. His total career at Spurs is down to weak management and levy's desire to find a homegrown star king/Kane style. Conte is just a manager strong to tell him so.

 

[richard_gleeson]

Just remembered how good Bentaleb looked for a few games. Then I remembered that managers/coaches know best

 

[GazzaB]

Just remembered how good Bentaleb looked for a few games. Then I remembered that managers/coaches know best

I wasn't a fan of him either to be honest. He did okay at club struggling to be what they should be with a fanbase built on better times. Its taken a chairman with countless failures to take a punt on one of the worlds best 3 managers to finally change the narrative. Had conte been in charge 20 years ago (impossible i know lol) this would be a totally different football club. The false hope of 'we will find a star in our ranks at the chairman's bequest' has ended, this manager won't roll over. Scarlett and Devine plus maybe White are who Conte will give a shot but if they don't measure up we won't have to put up with 2 seasons too many hoping they will.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Winks wasn't poorly mis managed mate. Hes had ample opportunity to prove himself and not come close. Like I said previously hes another o'hara bentaleb caskey without being as good as any. His total career at Spurs is down to weak management and levy's desire to find a homegrown star king/Kane style. Conte is just a manager strong to tell him so.

Your entitled to your view but he was an England international who was having playing some very decent football - moving him into a defensive role which never ever suited him created the player he turned into as he is not his role in a team so to compensate he became ultra safe . He has played well over a 100 games for Spurs more than all 3 of those players you mention that's nothing to do with Levy that is just nonsense he needs to move on he has gone backwards but there are reasons for that and its nothing to do with weak management piss poor use of a player yes

 

[Roberts84]

Winks wasn't poorly mis managed mate. Hes had ample opportunity to prove himself and not come close. Like I said previously hes another o'hara bentaleb caskey without being as good as any. His total career at Spurs is down to weak management and levy's desire to find a homegrown star king/Kane style. Conte is just a manager strong to tell him so.

I’m not sure levy picks the team or dictates what players play. He’s also a far better player than Caskey and Ohara.

 

[Aphex]

I’m not sure levy picks the team or dictates what players play. He’s also a far better player than Caskey and Ohara.

He really isn’t.

 

[Roberts84]

He really isn’t.

To be fair mate you seem to dislike any player that puts a spurs shirt on

 

[Aphex]

To be fair mate you seem to dislike any player that puts a spurs shirt on

Nah that’s not true, silly comment

 

[Roberts84]

Nah that’s not true, silly comment

It’s a fair observation of your posts