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It's an impressive line of players like Carroll, Mason and Winks who come through our academy with so much hope, break in to the first team, and then just cant make that next step. I think we've got close to it with Winks, but again I sadly think he'll just fall short.
 

WiganSpur

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Replacing both Winks and Dele with one hg player of high quality would be a winner if he was off required quality. Would have to be someone good enough to displace Sissoko too.
The problem is, I can't think of a single realistic option really. Chelsea wouldn't sell us Barkley or RLC, can Phillips play an 8 role? Are JWP and Will Hughes etc in the right mould in terms of their physicality? Bellingham stands out but he'd obviously cost us a small fortune now. The same would apply to Rice (also same question as Phillips) and Aaron Ramsey wages wise.

It's also probably too early for White and especially Devine.

Perhaps there's some indirect things we could do, for example selling Sanchez and letting Fagan-Walcott be the 5th choice CB. But I can't see anyone coming up to half what we paid for him at the moment.
 
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As we heard in the summer how worried he was with our hojberg signing he has the mentality of a flea, instead of knuckling down he wants to bail out. We can easily get 20million plus for him as hes HG he offer nothing and needs to leave so we can get a better replacement in
 

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As we heard in the summer how worried he was with our hojberg signing he has the mentality of a flea, instead of knuckling down he wants to bail out. We can easily get 20million plus for him as hes HG he offer nothing and needs to leave so we can get a better replacement in

Name the better replacement because he has to be homegrown. Or we will have to also sell on another non HG player for the new player to make the squad. Any homegrown player better than winks is going to cost more than our record signing N'Dombele.
 

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Name the better replacement because he has to be homegrown. Or we will have to also sell on another non HG player for the new player to make the squad. Any homegrown player better than winks is going to cost more than our record signing N'Dombele.
Could we not just call up George Marsh, Whiteman and Georgiou for the rest of the season to balance the numbers?
 

carpediem991

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Could we not just call up George Marsh, Whiteman and Georgiou for the rest of the season to balance the numbers?

Thats not the worry. Its the thought that the squad could lack quality in depth. We can not register anymore Non HGs in the EL unless we sell.
And if we sell Winks we could be in trouble if Hojbjerg or/and Sissoko and Gio are out. Thats not a risk we should take.

We definitley should send back Gedson and probably look at offers for Davinson if there are any in winter.
 

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The problem is, I can't think of a single realistic option really. Chelsea wouldn't sell us Barkley or RLC, can Phillips play an 8 role? Are JWP and Will Hughes etc in the right mould in terms of their physicality? Bellingham stands out but he'd obviously cost us a small fortune now. The same would apply to Rice (also same question as Phillips) and Aaron Ramsey wages wise.

It's also probably too early for White and especially Devine.

Perhaps there's some indirect things we could do, for example selling Sanchez and letting Fagan-Walcott be the 5th choice CB. But I can't see anyone coming up to half what we paid for him at the moment.
I imagine if Sanchez moves on then Rodon gets his EL spot anyway, so probably wouldn’t work.

The main solution would be if Lo Celso can prove to Jose that he can trust him in the double pivot with Højbjerg, because if that hates, then Sissoko can come in for either and in theory before we’d have to turn to the kids Ndombele could still do a job there. Problem is running the risk of a Lo Celso-Ndombele axis, which is a bit devil may care even for my tastes. Really we’d have to buy someone, but if Lo Celso can earn Jose’s trust for the role, it doesn’t necessarily have to be a ready made first teamed. We could go for someone like Philip Billing which physically is very Mourinho but also actually a pretty decent player, but not so good that he’d impede Skipp next season. Basically, a short term Winks replacement but a long term Sissoko successor. And then when Sissoko really is past is by then hopefully White is ready to make up CM options of Højbjerg, Lo Celso, Skipp, White, ‘Billing’ for the double pivot.
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Not HG and wouldn’t count as u21 for I think 2 years either.
 

carpediem991

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Maybe bringing in Sami Khedira for 6 months with an option to extend could be something and consider not registering him for EL if there are no spots free. Hard to define a helping HG player who is available in January, especially as there should be a spot for Skipp next season.

Actual quotes by Khedira:

„Wenn es möglich ist, würde sicherlich ein wirklich großer Traum in Erfüllung gehen, es wäre eine Ehre, ein Teil der Premier League zu sein“, bekundete Khedira, der 77-mal für die deutsche Nationalmannschaft auflief. Die zweitmeisten Spiele seiner Laufbahn – 126 an der Zahl – bestritt der Rechtsfuß unter José Mourinho bei den „Königlichen“ von Real. „Ich habe es wirklich genossen, mit José Mourinho zu arbeiten, aber es gibt viele Trainer, mit denen ich gerne zusammenarbeiten würde.“

Roughly translated:
"Playing in the Premier League would be an honour to me, it is a big dream. I really enjoyed working with Jose Mourinho, but there are many managers I'd like to work with."
 
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dtxspurs

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Thats not the worry. Its the thought that the squad could lack quality in depth. We can not register anymore Non HGs in the EL unless we sell.
And if we sell Winks we could be in trouble if Hojbjerg or/and Sissoko and Gio are out. Thats not a risk we should take.

We definitley should send back Gedson and probably look at offers for Davinson if there are any in winter.
We're in trouble if those three are out and Winks has to play anyways.
 

WiganSpur

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Maybe bringing in Sami Khedira for 6 months with an option to extend could be something and consider not registering him for EL if there are no spots free. Hard to define a helping HG player who is available in January, especially as there should be a spot for Skipp next season.

Actual quotes by Khedira:

„Wenn es möglich ist, würde sicherlich ein wirklich großer Traum in Erfüllung gehen, es wäre eine Ehre, ein Teil der Premier League zu sein“, bekundete Khedira, der 77-mal für die deutsche Nationalmannschaft auflief. Die zweitmeisten Spiele seiner Laufbahn – 126 an der Zahl – bestritt der Rechtsfuß unter José Mourinho bei den „Königlichen“ von Real. „Ich habe es wirklich genossen, mit José Mourinho zu arbeiten, aber es gibt viele Trainer, mit denen ich gerne zusammenarbeiten würde.“

Roughly translated:
"Playing in the Premier League would be an honour to me, it is a big dream. I really enjoyed working with Jose Mourinho, but there are many managers I'd like to work with."
I'd take that, but surely not possible unless we sold Sanchez and cancelled Gedson's loan?
 

Wig

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He’d be my preference, him or ward-prowse, but not sure how feasible.
I rate Ward-Prowse too, and would be good to have someone of his set-piece ability on the pitch. Don't think Southampton would let us buy the captain who replaced their previous captain though!
 

Wig

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I'd take that, but surely not possible unless we sold Sanchez and cancelled Gedson's loan?
Given how little Gedson has featured, he surely will be looking to end his loan and get playing time back at Benfica or elsewhere
 

TommyGee

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Name the better replacement because he has to be homegrown. Or we will have to also sell on another non HG player for the new player to make the squad. Any homegrown player better than winks is going to cost more than our record signing N'Dombele.

I’d be down to recall Skipp if Winks ended up leaving in Jan. Much prefer both to remain where they are until the end of the season though.
 

DiVaio

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Maybe bringing in Sami Khedira for 6 months with an option to extend could be something and consider not registering him for EL if there are no spots free. Hard to define a helping HG player who is available in January, especially as there should be a spot for Skipp next season.

Actual quotes by Khedira:

„Wenn es möglich ist, würde sicherlich ein wirklich großer Traum in Erfüllung gehen, es wäre eine Ehre, ein Teil der Premier League zu sein“, bekundete Khedira, der 77-mal für die deutsche Nationalmannschaft auflief. Die zweitmeisten Spiele seiner Laufbahn – 126 an der Zahl – bestritt der Rechtsfuß unter José Mourinho bei den „Königlichen“ von Real. „Ich habe es wirklich genossen, mit José Mourinho zu arbeiten, aber es gibt viele Trainer, mit denen ich gerne zusammenarbeiten würde.“

Roughly translated:
"Playing in the Premier League would be an honour to me, it is a big dream. I really enjoyed working with Jose Mourinho, but there are many managers I'd like to work with."
Khedira is shit.
 
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