Have we got a deep enough squad?

[wrd]

Our backup striker is 3rd choice behind Son so it's non comparable with other teams, it's like Arsenal fans complaining about Welbeck being their main striker when Lacazette and Aubamayeng are both injured and saying they have a weak front line.

Another example could be though that United have Lukaku, Rashford, Martial and Sanchez who can play in that front position. There's examples that fit both sides of the argument if you look for them but we need to be smart on how we sign for that 3rd choice given our financial restraint either by signing a 3rd player who can play across the 3 (such as Werner but that was admittedly unrealistic) or by signing a young cheap prospect, there's been plenty of examples.

 

[Shadydan]

Another example could be though that United have Lukaku, Rashford, Martial and Sanchez who can play in that front position. There's examples that fit both sides of the argument if you look for them but we need to be smart on how we sign for that 3rd choice given our financial restraint either by signing a 3rd player who can play across the 3 (such as Werner but that was admittedly unrealistic) or by signing a young cheap prospect, there's been plenty of examples.

Three of those players earn over £200k a week

 

[wrd]

I don't think its that hard to understand the problem. It's just very hard to find the solution.

If HK gets some serious competition we increase the chance of him leaving - no matter if we bring in a top man to replace him - that man has to sit on the bench on let's say 200K a week (don't believe what you read, players come for starting places and money on a sliding scale) and that guy is in everyone's fucking ears every day in training. You think Pock wants that? That is the sub text to the "Squad is good enough"

I disagree with this, footballers are competitive animals, they made it as professionals in the top league, especially Harry Kane, I doubt he's going to get cold feet about another striker signing, if anything he will go up a level. We also don't need to sign somebody on 200k a week that's a stretch at best. There's examples of the type of player we have looked at to compliment Kane, as an example we had Dembele (now at lyon, was at celtic) when he was at fulham in for a medical. They're plenty of players out there who fit our criteria without having to sign Mbappe.

 

[Shadydan]

Its robbing Peter to pay Paul. I'm not a fan of pulling a starter in one position to be a backup in another position. Thats not real depth, thats just a player being versatile.

Well the backup you crave is only gonna get 10 matches per season, no-one is coming here to play 10 games unless we pay big money which we don't have.

 

[wrd]

Three of those players earn over £200k a week

Hence the 2nd part of my paragraph.

 

[OldBoy68]

Our backup striker is 3rd choice behind Son so it's non comparable with other teams, it's like Arsenal fans complaining about Welbeck being their main striker when Lacazette and Aubamayeng are both injured and saying they have a weak front line.

We are what we are. Win or lose. I will take victory as something beautiful and a loss as a fucking disgraceful refereeing decision.

 

[dtxspurs]

Well the backup you crave is only gonna get 10 matches per season, no-one is coming here to play 10 games unless we pay big money which we don't have.

We've been able to recruit the leading scorer in the Dutch League and a veteran (with a supposed opportunity to play at Chelsea), I don't understand how its impossible all the sudden to convince someone to play backup to Kane.

Poch has also shown he's willing to play two strikers together.

 

[wrd]

We've been able to recruit the leading scorer in the Dutch League and a veteran (with a supposed opportunity to play at Chelsea), I don't understand how its impossible all the sudden to convince someone to play backup to Kane.

Poch has also shown he's willing to play two strikers together.

When we eventually do, peoples heads are going to explode.

 

[JayB]

Its robbing Peter to pay Paul. I'm not a fan of pulling a starter in one position to be a backup in another position. Thats not real depth, thats just a player being versatile.

Another example of this is relying on Eriksen and Dele to drop deep and slot in at CM on a regular basis. It's not a bad option to have, but it puts strain on our attacking players when we can't rest them because they have to paper over the cracks of our barebones midfield. That in turn leads to a lack of rotation among our other top attackers and makes it likelier for them to pick up injuries. I don't think the avalanche of muscle injuries we've sustained this season can be put down to bad luck, the squad is just stretched too thin.

In the summer Poch wanted Grealish (an Eriksen understudy), a Martial-type versatile attacker, and a CM. He got none. If he'd gotten even one or two of those players, we wouldn't have been nearly as reliant on the versatility of Son, Eriksen, and Dele, and they'd all have gotten significantly more rest than they have done, and we'd almost certainly not have had the injuries we've had to cope with. It's clear that there are areas where we need more depth.

 

[dtxspurs]

Another example of this is relying on Eriksen and Dele to drop deep and slot in at CM on a regular basis. It's not a bad option to have, but it puts strain on our attacking players when we can't rest them because they have to paper over the cracks of our barebones midfield. That in turn leads to a lack of rotation among our other top attackers and makes it likelier for them to pick up injuries. I don't think the avalanche of muscle injuries we've sustained this season can be put down to bad luck, the squad is just stretched too thin.

In the summer Poch wanted Grealish (an Eriksen understudy), a Martial-type versatile attacker, and a CM. He got none. If he'd gotten even one or two of those players, we wouldn't have been nearly as reliant on the versatility of Son, Eriksen, and Dele, and they'd all have gotten significantly more rest than they have done, and we'd almost certainly not have had the injuries we've had to cope with. It's clear that there are areas where we need more depth.

You are preaching to the choir here.

 

[Hakkz]

I don't think its that hard to understand the problem. It's just very hard to find the solution.

If HK gets some serious competition we increase the chance of him leaving - no matter if we bring in a top man to replace him - that man has to sit on the bench on let's say 200K a week (don't believe what you read, players come for starting places and money on a sliding scale) and that guy is in everyone's fucking ears every day in training. You think Pock wants that? That is the sub text to the "Squad is good enough"

Lol.

 

[Shadydan]

We've been able to recruit the leading scorer in the Dutch League and a veteran (with a supposed opportunity to play at Chelsea), I don't understand how its impossible all the sudden to convince someone to play backup to Kane.

Poch has also shown he's willing to play two strikers together.

You're just solidifying my point really, the two examples you've listed here are just not good enough, suppose we can get players to come in as backup but what's the point if they're just gonna be as bad as Janssen and Llorente?

The two striker thing is a different argument altogether but playing with 2 strikers isn't our strongest formation.

 

[dtxspurs]

You're just solidifying my point really, the two examples you've listed here are just not good enough, suppose we can get players to come in as backup but what's the point if they're just gonna be as bad as Janssen and Llorente?

The two striker thing is a different argument altogether but playing with 2 strikers isn't our strongest formation.

Not really, you said we just can't attract players to come sit behind Kane. We've recruited players who you would think would have been sought after by other clubs but chose to come be the backup to Kane. The scouting sucked, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that you and others say we just can't convince people to come and do that job.

 

[Shadydan]

Not really, you said we just can't attract players to come sit behind Kane. We've recruited players who you would think would have been sought after by other clubs but chose to come be the backup to Kane. The scouting sucked, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that you and others say we just can't convince people to come and do that job.

Well okay fine mr pedantic, obviously we can attract players to come and play as backup, the point is that if they're not good enough which the last 2 players haven't been then there's no point.

 

[dtxspurs]

Well okay fine mr pedantic, obviously we can attract players to come and play as backup, the point is that if they're not good enough which the last 2 players haven't been then there's no point.

So we should just give up trying to find a back up striker?

It's like we fucked up on a speedy winger with Nkoudou & Njie but finally got it right with Lucas.

 

[Shadydan]

So we should just give up trying to find a back up striker?

It's like we fucked up on a speedy winger with Nkoudou & Njie but finally got it right with Lucas.

Straw man, how predictable...

I'm out have fun making up arguments with others, cya

This place sometimes fucks sake

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Maybe we can go sign this Rabiot kid (mom denies turning down Spurs...):

 

[dtxspurs]

Straw man, how predictable...

I'm out have fun making up arguments with others, cya

This place sometimes fucks sake

What? You changed the original argument on me?

 

[Shadydan]

What? You changed the original argument on me?

What was the original argument then?

 

[dtxspurs]

What was the original argument then?

I said we needed to add a new backup striker. To which you countered with they would never play so we couldn't recruit anyone. Which we have been able to recruit people, you said well they weren't good enough so whats the point.