Injury Updates

[Wheeler Dealer]

Due to poch setting up the team to frustrate Arsenal, not due to Dele not playing IMO

If Alli had played yesterday, he would have spend the afternoon falling to ground at every opportunity as well as conceding possession far too easily. Eriksen was better of a result of Alli's absence.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

If Alli had played yesterday, he would have spend the afternoon falling to ground at every opportunity as well as conceding possession far too easily. Eriksen was better of a result of Alli's absence.

Would he have? Interesting to know.

for my part, i have no idea what he would and wouldn't have done, and will maintain that it was Poch's change of formation that kept things tighter not one player being changed

 

[dagraham]

Due to poch setting up the team to frustrate Arsenal, not due to Dele not playing IMO

And due to the fact we always raise our game for the NLD. We can't score goals at the moment and just because Kane is back doesn't mean we should rely on him to get all our goals. Also, I think people quickly forget the understanding that those two had last season.

Alli hasn't played well this season, but which attacking player has? Despite this he's still scored 3 goals and his injury is a big blow. One half decent performance in the NLD (which btw we didn't actually win) shouldn't suddenly diminish his importance to us.

 

[bubble07]

Dele has a knack for scoring goals. putting the ball in the back of the net is the hardest skill in football

People need to remember that

 

[mattie g]

He's better off training with England than our non-internationals & kids. Or on his own.
And if he plays a part in either the Scotland or Spain game it'll help his match fitness.

I completely agree, but I think the reaction to this is due to the concern that he might re-injure himself playing in a "meaningless" England match, or training with the England squad. I think people would take it much better if he were to get injured training at our facilities with our non-internationals and youngsters than training with England.

Whether that's a valid take on it is a different matter altogether.

 

[eddiev14]

Yeah, all well and good, but he can't actually do that. He will have to be assessed by the England medics if he claims injury.

The FIFA player release rule is established in article 1, paragraph 4 of the Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players, in conjunction with annex 1 of the same regulations.

According to this rules, "clubs are obliged to release their registered players to the representative teams of the country for which the player is eligible to play (...) if they are called up by the associated concerned" (3), and they are "not entitled to financial compensation" (4).

The club would not do it, so it has nothing to do with Poch growing a pair as you put it.

It never stopped Ferguson!

 

[Shadydan]

Poch has never been one to stop a player for joining up with their international team in fact it's pretty likely that he'd encourage players to play for their country as it's part of the footballing education.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Playing for England can really knock a player put of his groove sometimes. Kane just came back, banged one in against the scum on his return. his confidence should be high. playing for a turgid England team and then having the media saying he's shit when we get spanked by Spain isn't going to be particularly positive in my opinion.

 

[waresy]

For Harry the next 2 England games are an ideal chance to get match fitness under his belt by playing some minutes for the national side, hopefully put him in a better position when he comes back to us.

 

[OPModric]

Dele has a knack for scoring goals. putting the ball in the back of the net is the hardest skill in football

People need to remember that

Yes, but if you play behind the striker you should also have vision. Alli waste so many chanses to create goal oppurtunities.

 

[thebenjamin]

Yes, but if you play behind the striker you should also have vision. Alli waste so many chanses to create goal oppurtunities.

Despite having more assists for 1 player - Kane - than anyone else in the whole league? In his first season out of league 2?

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Yes, but if you play behind the striker you should also have vision. Alli waste so many chanses to create goal oppurtunities.

I'd say Alli (and Eriksen) have more "vision" than many other players in the league, let alone our squad. It's a relatively rare gift.

"Vision" isn't a precise, measurable thing, but I think it means having a clear picture of the shape of play, where players and the ball are moving to, what is likely to happen and what might be possible. Alli has it in spades, which is why he is so good at getting into dangerous positions. Some very gifted players in terms of pure skill have very little vision. Townsend (not exactly brilliant, but no doubt skilful) is a typical example, he had very little vision, in this sense. All is streets ahead of players like that, of whom there are many in the premiership, and it's one reason why he (Dele) is a special player with huge potential still.

When will he be fit? We're a better team with him than without him.

 

[Wellspurs]

When is the England squad announced? Surely he won't pick a clearly unfit Kane?

The more our players get used to Wembley the better. May even one day win there?

 

[DJS]

The more our players get used to Wembley the better. May even one day win there?

Lol I like your thinking there

 

[OPModric]

Despite having more assists for 1 player - Kane - than anyone else in the whole league? In his first season out of league 2?

Yes, despite that. Have you watched our games this year?

 

[mightyspur]

It never stopped Ferguson!

Not for a world cup qualifier he didn't. He occasionally pulled players for friendlies, but the FIFA rules are slightly different in those matches.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Playing for England can really knock a player put of his groove sometimes. Kane just came back, banged one in against the scum on his return. his confidence should be high. playing for a turgid England team and then having the media saying he's shit when we get spanked by Spain isn't going to be particularly positive in my opinion.

I don't think he'll play against Spain

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Despite having more assists for 1 player - Kane - than anyone else in the whole league? In his first season out of league 2?

To be fair, I would not expect many players on other teams to have assists to Kane....

But the point is correct - I think Alli has the best vision on the squad - better than Eriksen. He struggles in the execution sometimes, but its not because he does not see a pass, or a run being made.

 

[eddiev14]

Not for a world cup qualifier he didn't. He occasionally pulled players for friendlies, but the FIFA rules are slightly different in those matches.

FIFA rules didn't matter. Fergie's boys wouldn't get called up in the first place if he didn't want them to, he was like the Godfather over the England managers.

You don't think Poch can have a chat with Southgate and it ends up with them both agreeing that for the good of his career Kane is better off continuing his recovery at the club?

Of course they can.

 

[mightyspur]

FIFA rules didn't matter. Fergie's boys wouldn't get called up in the first place if he didn't want them to, he was like the Godfather over the England managers.

You don't think Poch can have a chat with Southgate and it ends up with them both agreeing that for the good of his career Kane is better off continuing his recovery at the club?

Of course they can.

I'd be interested in seeing something to back that statement up, but I'd be surprised. Despite what you might think, for international qualifiers, it simply didn't happen. He ranted about the games, but if the player wanted to play, he let them.

Why on earth would a Scotsman be the god father over English managers?