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Ionman34

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Just watching the interview on Sky with Joe Hart now he's at Torino. What a likeable bloke, despite those godawful Head and Shoulders adverts.
He was saying how Guardiola was straightforward and honest with him right off the bat, saying he wasn't confident in him and was looking elsewhere, eventually bringing in Bravo.

They say a good goalkeeper is worth 10 - 12 points a season to a team, so I wonder if Pep is second guessing himself over his choices, particularly as Hart has shown good form in Seria A and Bravo has probably cost them a good 6-8 points this season, he's been so poor.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Just watching the interview on Sky with Joe Hart now he's at Torino. What a likeable bloke, despite those godawful Head and Shoulders adverts.
He was saying how Guardiola was straightforward and honest with him right off the bat, saying he wasn't confident in him and was looking elsewhere, eventually bringing in Bravo.

They say a good goalkeeper is worth 10 - 12 points a season to a team, so I wonder if Pep is second guessing himself over his choices, particularly as Hart has shown good form in Seria A and Bravo has probably cost them a good 6-8 points this season, he's been so poor.
really? Torino have conceded 27 in 18 (Hart is 23 in 16), Man City have conceded 20 in 17 - and the defense has been a mess - not just Bravo.

Add to that, Hart was never going to play the way Pep wanted in terms of playing out from the back. It was a harsh call, but can't say that either side would be better if Hart had remained at City.
 

Monkey boy

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Decent keeper that's overhyped because he's English. Has made some howlers that Gomes would be crucified for throughout the years.
 

Ionman34

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really? Torino have conceded 27 in 18 (Hart is 23 in 16), Man City have conceded 20 in 17 - and the defense has been a mess - not just Bravo.

Add to that, Hart was never going to play the way Pep wanted in terms of playing out from the back. It was a harsh call, but can't say that either side would be better if Hart had remained at City.

The defence is a mess because they sold 3 of their linchpins. You think Hugo would have the stats he has if we sold Toby, Jan and Rose?

How many of those goals are you attributing to errors from Hart? How many would he have conceded without the good form? It's also a bit of a straw man argument comparing City's record, would they have fewer with Hart in goal? Considering the ricketts Bravo has dropped, I'm inclined to think so.
 

yankspurs

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The defence is a mess because they sold 3 of their linchpins. You think Hugo would have the stats he has if we sold Toby, Jan and Rose?

How many of those goals are you attributing to errors from Hart? How many would he have conceded without the good form? It's also a bit of a straw man argument comparing City's record, would they have fewer with Hart in goal? Considering the ricketts Bravo has dropped, I'm inclined to think so.
Hart has always had more than his fair share of howlers though. They're not better or worse off right now with Bravo. They're probably about the same but Bravo is a better fit in Pep's team.
 

TheChosenOne

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He was banging Katie Price .. That must have been some quare vegetable soup going on.
 

Shadydan

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Pep wanted to make a statement, he did the same to Yaya as well albeit he humbled him and told him to apologise and now he's back in the team. He picked on the biggest ego's to show everyone who is boss which is why they were both dropped. He did the same at Barcelona with Ronaldinho and Ibrahimovic, he doesn't like big ego's in his team. Don't think for a minute that Pep couldn't work with Hart and that playing out from the back is such a difficult concept to do, if he really wanted to keep him he would have.
 

Ionman34

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Hart has always had more than his fair share of howlers though. They're not better or worse off right now with Bravo. They're probably about the same but Bravo is a better fit in Pep's team.
Fair comment, but Bravo has been poor in almost every facet of his game since joining City. Hart had some howlers, but Bravo has managed to condense the same quantity into half a season!
 

jonathanhotspur

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He was banging Katie Price .. That must have been some quare vegetable soup going on.
Did you see the photos of her whipping them out in the toilet at some Christmas party she was paid to attend?!

I didn't know he banged her. The thing I would say about Joe Hart is that he has a very irritating face; the type one would like to slap.
 

teok

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really? Torino have conceded 27 in 18 (Hart is 23 in 16), Man City have conceded 20 in 17 - and the defense has been a mess - not just Bravo.

Add to that, Hart was never going to play the way Pep wanted in terms of playing out from the back. It was a harsh call, but can't say that either side would be better if Hart had remained at City.

Torino play a score loads and concede loads style.
 
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