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Kyle Walker Peters - Southampton

Locotoro

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Aurier hasn't got the brains to play in a Conte side such is his indiscipline - Trippier would work and KWP would flourish in the system and has just had an outstanding for Southampton culminating in getting into an England squad
I agree that Aurier wouldn't work in Conte system but he's the only one matching the physical requirements.
Neither Trippier nor KWP wouldn't work as they too small and not aggressive enough.

Look back at Conte's wingbacks, I can't think a single one that doesnt have that physical presence that helps them get to the back post header in the penalty box
 

ralphs bald spot

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I agree that Aurier wouldn't work in Conte system but he's the only one matching the physical requirements.
Neither Trippier nor KWP wouldn't work as they too small and not aggressive enough.

Look back at Conte's wingbacks, I can't think a single one that doesnt have that physical presence that helps them get to the back post header in the penalty box

I think you overplay the physical bit

KWP would fit like a glove has improvement in him still - last season he improved throughout and as kid in the youth team his upward curve was huge as he became confident in himself - I think he has the ability on the ball and would learn in the system he has the intelligence as a player to do it - sadly I can't see him coming back but he was the boy who we made a mistake on particularly keeping Aurier over him
 

GutBucket

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More impressed with him as inverted LWB than RWB, not quick or physical enough but he would be useful with his club trained status.
 

Locotoro

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I think you overplay the physical bit

KWP would fit like a glove has improvement in him still - last season he improved throughout and as kid in the youth team his upward curve was huge as he became confident in himself - I think he has the ability on the ball and would learn in the system he has the intelligence as a player to do it - sadly I can't see him coming back but he was the boy who we made a mistake on particularly keeping Aurier over him
I always liked KWP and when he was with us I was praying he would develop some confidence and aggression to make the position his own.

I respectfully disagree though concerning overplaying the physical part of a Conte team. I wouldn't be surprised to see a team withe every starter being 6ft plus. Conte likes big physical athletes. That much isn't in dispute and if they are not big they need to be aggressive and hold their own. When you consider that it takes Eriksen half a season to prove he can hold his own in the Inter team before Conte puts him in the line up more consistently. I don't see KWP doing the same.

But yes I don't think we'll sign him anyway.
 

SpartanSpur

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I think he'd be a no-brainer of a signing if the buy back clause is true. Knows the club and the PL inside out. Has put in some standout defensive performances against top teams for Soton despite his smaller frame (which is also less of a concern for a WB). Good dribbler and passer. Club trained HG for CL.

Get on it Spurs. Sounds like the Spence deal is edging pretty close to £25m after add ons as it is.
 

SandroClegane

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£30m for Kyle Walker Peters? Are people losing their minds? I don't think he's an upgrade on Doherty or Royal, especially not at that price.

At least Spence is young enough and has the attributes that Conte can mold him into a proper wingback.
 

coy-spurs1882

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£30m for Kyle Walker Peters? Are people losing their minds? I don't think he's an upgrade on Doherty or Royal, especially not at that price.

At least Spence is young enough and has the attributes that Conte can mold him into a proper wingback.
not saying that we should spend 30m on KWP but why an older player cannot be moulded/coached?
 

Japhet

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I think we should maybe try a different angle since I'm not sure KWP fixes anything much. Sell Reggie (pretty much on the cards) and bring in Dwight McNeil. That frees up a non HG space. Then maybe sell Emerson and try for someone like Pedro Porro. We still have 1 non HG space free for a CB or whoever. I think Boro will fuck around til the very end on this one if we don't at least turn the screw a bit.
 

Ghost Hardware

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TBH if we are thinking of spending 30 mil on a RWB then id prefer us to go for Jeremie Frimpong who is supposedly valued around the same sort of price. I remember seeing 27 million Euros being quoted. He's recovered from his injury and is back in full in training and he's HG supposedly. He makes by far the most sense as I think he has huge potential. Although of course there is a large sentimental aspect to brining back KWP.
 

JKendall13

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Always been a very smart and cultured player, I remember watching him in u18 youth FA cup at WHL against a stacked Chelsea side with Abraham and Solanke up top, when they were two of the biggest prospects in the country. KWP was probably the best player on the pitch that night. Had hoped he'd break through here as he seems like a lovely guy.

I just think midtable EPL is more his level, especially the way Conte likes his teams to be built around power and pace. Spence is a much more obvious fit for Conte, likely 10m cheaper or more, and 4 years younger. KWP is always going to be held back by the fact that he's small and a bit weak for league.

KWP has a great football brain, and I'm super excited for what he's done with his career at Southampton but I just don't really see the fit with Conte and what he traditionally prioritizes at WB or in his teams writ large. I don't really see how paying 30m for KWP makes sense when you could get Spence for 20m or less. What you see with KWP now is likely what you get, Spence could improve significantly under Conte with his ability and skillset. Just needs top coaching to round him out.
 

double0

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KWP could easily fit into a wingback role at Spurs and be good. 30M is about right for an experienced young homegrown...however Im excited to see how Emerson Royal does I fell his about to unleash supreme levels of performance s and numbers....people have underestimated him he showed during the closing stages of season 21/22 of the potential within.
 

cockerel downunder

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I’d definitely be in favour of bringing him back. Would give real creativity from the wing back position, plus club trained which is invaluable for Cl squad.
Not sure he is tall / athletic enough for conte though
 

cockerel downunder

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I reckon the rwb could be dumbfries of inter. We have had inter cryptics recently and herc just posted a drum which likely references the 12 July parades in Belfast by the Orangemen - hint for a Dutch player (in the Spence thread so likely a rwb)

bit of a stretch but I’m going with it…
 

CanadaSpurs

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I reckon the rwb could be dumbfries of inter. We have had inter cryptics recently and herc just posted a drum which likely references the 12 July parades in Belfast by the Orangemen - hint for a Dutch player (in the Spence thread so likely a rwb)

bit of a stretch but I’m going with it…
I suspect the emoji in the Spence thread was certainly about Spence, and not a player to whom we haven’t been linked yet.
 

DJS

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The thing about KWP as he was described as being a playmaker from right back in our youth teams and seemed to have very good attacking instincts.

For me personally that would make him a good candidate to play right wing back, I certainly wouldn’t be unhappy if we bought him back.
 

NickHSpurs

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Should never have sold him but can’t see us bringing him back unfortunately, his development was so poorly managed here. I’d have rather seen him play over any of the right backs we’ve signed since he left.
 
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