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Japhet

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I'm assuming that if Abramovich gets sanctioned, Chelsea FC are then unable to trade. That means no ticket sales, no salaries paid, no sponsorship or any sort of commercial income. That affects an awful lot of ordinary people (caterers, ground staff etc) so that might be a reason why nothing seems to be happening on that front. If he was sanctioned I assume he wouldn't be able to sell off the club either so it would effectively be in limbo.
 

Tucker

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I'm assuming that if Abramovich gets sanctioned, Chelsea FC are then unable to trade. That means no ticket sales, no salaries paid, no sponsorship or any sort of commercial income. That affects an awful lot of ordinary people (caterers, ground staff etc) so that might be a reason why nothing seems to be happening on that front. If he was sanctioned I assume he wouldn't be able to sell off the club either so it would effectively be in limbo.
Yeah I don’t think they’d be able to operate in any way. And none of the other clubs, sponsors etc would be able to deal with them. They’d be fucked.
 

brendanb50

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I'm assuming that if Abramovich gets sanctioned, Chelsea FC are then unable to trade. That means no ticket sales, no salaries paid, no sponsorship or any sort of commercial income. That affects an awful lot of ordinary people (caterers, ground staff etc) so that might be a reason why nothing seems to be happening on that front. If he was sanctioned I assume he wouldn't be able to sell off the club either so it would effectively be in limbo.

There are more questions than answers at the moment but this is surely the key one - All the talk of the sale, the 'proceeds' etc. but surely the guy has to be someone who is potentially sanctioned (although the gov seem very reluctant to do this) and have his assets seized.

There will always be a certain amount of deniability on Abramovich's side but let's face it, the Chelsea purchase and probably every bit of business he's done since, was all about washing his money and reputation outside of Russia so he could stay out of the clutches of Putin should he need to. In spite of the fact his ability to make money in the first place was facilitated by the Russian state and he's likely funded and privately supported Putin for many years.

For me, the only way you impact Russia properly (warfare aside I hope) is to properly sanction these people. The wealth and power supporting Putin will start to change their tune when their money is no good anywhere and is being severely reduced through seizures and sanctions.

Back off my soapbox and on subject - If he is sanctioned, you're right, I don't see how he could sell, whether they'd then be seized as an asset (likely a bit more complex than that) and I don't know where that then leaves Chelsea. I sincerely hope in the shit but knowing their luck they'll do just fine.
 

Japhet

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Yeah I don’t think they’d be able to operate in any way. And none of the other clubs, sponsors etc would be able to deal with them. They’d be fucked.

Seems too good to be true doesn't it.
 

wrd

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The humanitarian disaster in Yemen, as a direct result of indiscriminate bombing sanctioned and finance by the owners of NUFC, has been going on for years, and yet they were welcomed into the EPL. The difference though is that we sell much of the weaponry to the Saudis and have a convenient 'friendly' territory in the Middle East when needed but Russia manufacture their own weapons and there's no lucrative trade to be had with them. As a result, Ukraine is big news (and rightly so), but Yemen is swept under the carpet continually.
Yes Shearer and Micah Richards weighing in on the chelsea situation with no sense of introspection was poor.
 

Syn_13

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If it were a lower league club the government would've already sanctioned the owner. In football it seems like it's only the low profile and smaller clubs that suffer. The fact that we're content with putting a club like Bury out of business for what is comparatively a few quid compared to the money haemorrhaged by some of the big boys is ludicrous. The debt of some of these lower league clubs that face administration is often the equivalent to a week's wage for one of the Premier League's top stars. Money in football is so fucked up.
 

chavkev

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Roman is trying to do an Albert Speer (the man who escaped the rope at Nuremburg and managed to mostly successfully in life paint himself as the 'good' Nazi). Whether this is successful rather depends on how the war and the aftermath goes.
 

Serpico

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It does seem he may be playing both sides and giving his public image a little cleanse with this 'love of the club' and donating to casualties of war.

I may be talking bollox but i have a feeling a deal has been done.
I just feel he’s making the best of a bad situation he can’t condemn the war/invasion because he would receive an unexpected visit. He can’t be pro-Putin because it makes a mockery of him as a person. There’s probably been some intervention with Chelsea being sold with government having some input and advised all his money goes to Ukraine or it seized. That’s my opinion
 
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Japhet

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Yes Shearer and Micah Richards weighing in on the chelsea situation with no sense of introspection was poor.

I guess they're no different to a whole load of supporters who would turn a blind eye to just about anything as long as it benefitted their team. It's one of the reasons I dread us being sold because I'd have to walk away if anyone like the Saudis bought us. ENIC have their faults but not compared to those arseholes.
 
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wrd

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I guess they're no different to a whole load of supporters who would turn a blind eye to just about anything as long as it benefitted their team. It's one of the reasons I dread us being sold because I' have to walk away if anyone like the Saudis bought us. ENIC have their faults but not compared to those arseholes.
You should see my recent interactions in the ENIC thread :LOL:
 

Albertbarich

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You know what fuck football. Many of us have been saying this guy shouldnt have been allowed anywhere near the premier league since day one. Oh but jealousy! No he's a scumbag .

Only a couple of months ago matt law was saying how good he has been for English football. Imagine that, a so called top journalist proclaiming a gangster spunking his pocket money on some random team is a good thing apparently.

And now they're all talking like they have played no part in it. Well if you went to Chelsea you definitely played a part, if you supported Chelsea then you did and the media and the rest of football are just as complicit.

This isnt about trophies, its not even about unfair advantage. I personally don't care if a jack walker decides that's what he wants to do. It's about not letting gangsters or horrible nation states use our sport to sportswash their crimes.

And if he is gone so what. We have the ultimate sportswashing scum in man City hovering up trophies and now the Saudis are at it with those idiot barcodes. Meanwhile the media just laps up their success' without a hint of irony.

And this isnt just an English problem. Look at fifa and uefa, look at PSG.

The whole thing is a broken corrupt sesspit.
 

wrd

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You know what fuck football. Many of us have been saying this guy shouldnt have been allowed anywhere near the premier league since day one. Oh but jealousy! No he's a scumbag .

Only a couple of months ago matt law was saying how good he has been for English football. Imagine that, a so called top journalist proclaiming a gangster spunking his pocket money on some random team is a good thing apparently.

And now they're all talking like they have played no part in it. Well if you went to Chelsea you definitely played a part, if you supported Chelsea then you did and the media and the rest of football are just as complicit.

This isnt about trophies, its not even about unfair advantage. I personally don't care if a jack walker decides that's what he wants to do. It's about not letting gangsters or horrible nation states use our sport to sportswash their crimes.

And if he is gone so what. We have the ultimate sportswashing scum in man City hovering up trophies and now the Saudis are at it with those idiot barcodes. Meanwhile the media just laps up their success' without a hint of irony.

And this isnt just an English problem. Look at fifa and uefa, look at PSG.

The whole thing is a broken corrupt sesspit.
They always claim jealously and then ignore that none of this "jealously" is ever aimed at Man United and Liverpool, the two most successful clubs in England.
 

lincspurs

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Wouldn’t it be great if Andrew Marr could confront Shearer, Richards & Mat Law et al with these arguments?
He wouldn’t let them off!!!
 

Cochise

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It all seems a bit odd as presumably some of the money he makes from this sale will in turn go into the Putin war coffer. So whoever buys it know their money will be going towards that in an indirect manner.
 

GMI

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They always claim jealously and then ignore that none of this "jealously" is ever aimed at Man United and Liverpool, the two most successful clubs in England.
Yes, I've had a lot of this from a Chelsea fan this week. I'm not actually 'jealous' of any other team to be honest because its just football. However, I do respect clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal as they have been built out of success on the pitch and are not doped up sports washing entities.
 

spursfan77

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I'm assuming that if Abramovich gets sanctioned, Chelsea FC are then unable to trade. That means no ticket sales, no salaries paid, no sponsorship or any sort of commercial income. That affects an awful lot of ordinary people (caterers, ground staff etc) so that might be a reason why nothing seems to be happening on that front. If he was sanctioned I assume he wouldn't be able to sell off the club either so it would effectively be in limbo.

Yeah I don’t think they’d be able to operate in any way. And none of the other clubs, sponsors etc would be able to deal with them. They’d be fucked.

I reckon this is why the government are dragging their feet on naming him. Hell, would you even be surprised if it was their idea! Sell it before we can pin the sanctions on you to avoid such a scenario. Weird, as it would be popular with 99% of their voters across the country!
 

spursfan77

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You know what fuck football. Many of us have been saying this guy shouldnt have been allowed anywhere near the premier league since day one. Oh but jealousy! No he's a scumbag .

Only a couple of months ago matt law was saying how good he has been for English football. Imagine that, a so called top journalist proclaiming a gangster spunking his pocket money on some random team is a good thing apparently.

And now they're all talking like they have played no part in it. Well if you went to Chelsea you definitely played a part, if you supported Chelsea then you did and the media and the rest of football are just as complicit.

This isnt about trophies, its not even about unfair advantage. I personally don't care if a jack walker decides that's what he wants to do. It's about not letting gangsters or horrible nation states use our sport to sportswash their crimes.

And if he is gone so what. We have the ultimate sportswashing scum in man City hovering up trophies and now the Saudis are at it with those idiot barcodes. Meanwhile the media just laps up their success' without a hint of irony.

And this isnt just an English problem. Look at fifa and uefa, look at PSG.

The whole thing is a broken corrupt sesspit.

To my surprise I watched SSN this morning and our mate Kaveh was kind of siding with this view. That he shouldn't be allowed to sell it or might not be able to. That they should be punished and face the consequences. I was quite surprised. I though Sky would focus on his faux sudden charitable side, but even that they were sceptical of. I thought they'd take the Talksport view, not the grown up one.
 
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