Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[tototoner]

#PotterOut trending among Chelsea fans already

 

[taidgh]

#PotterOut trending among Chelsea fans already

 

[DenverSpur]

Chelsea under Potter have turned into Brighton ?
Plenty of possession, nice passing moves with no end product - game ends in a draw!

 

[djhotspur]

Chelsea under Potter have turned into Brighton ?
Plenty of possession, nice passing moves with no end product - game ends in a draw!

Yeah I was at the game with clients, they had some good passing and movement, I was sat most of the game when the passing was slick and even auba held up the ball every time and his flicks actually went to other players that I wish we looked like this…. But yes they do lack that final 3rd quality. One thing that strikes me that we are shocking at is the cm creating in an in ball for the wing backs/forward, Benta or hojberg are never there so, so often we have to either go all the way back to the cbs or the wing backs/forward gets crowded out or loses it.

They were unlucky but they do just lack goal scorers. Havertz it’s just such a nothing player, sterling was decent.

 

[Marty]

Potter has just swapped out a team with no strikers for a slightly more talented team ... with no strikers.

Bet he wishes Chelsea hadn't sold Lukaku.

 

[spursfan77]

Boehly proposing a relegation play off is amusing. I suspect he doesn’t realise who the last team to be relegated from the top division via one is…

 

[Marty]

Boehly proposing a relegation play off is amusing. I suspect he doesn’t realise who the last team to be relegated from the top division via one is…

Far from the worst idea he's had, as this is something they do in Germany and several other countries that make it a really big event to close out the season.

But for my part I think the PL needs that guaranteed three up, three down churn to make the relegation battle interesting and spread the PL money across more teams.

 

[dontcallme]

Far from the worst idea he's had, as this is something they do in Germany and several other countries that make it a really big event to close out the season.

But for my part I think the PL needs that guaranteed three up, three down churn to make the relegation battle interesting and spread the PL money across more teams.

I remember when the Championship first introduced the play-offs. There was near uproar. In time it got accepted and is now one of the biggest games in football.

I'm against play-offs for the relegation place, but that could just be because I see no reason for the change.

Outside of the money for such a big game, is there any sporting reason for it?

 

[Marty]

I remember when the Championship first introduced the play-offs. There was near uproar. In time it got accepted and is now one of the biggest games in football.

I'm against play-offs for the relegation place, but that could just be because I see no reason for the change.

Outside of the money for such a big game, is there any sporting reason for it?

The main sporting reason is that the team that just missed out on automatic promotion can still earn a place at the expense of an underperforming top flight side. By beating the side that finished 18th you've earned the place on sporting merit, and if you lose then you prove you don't belong in the top flight. Basically the top flight side has everything to lose and the second tier side has everything to gain.

But if this were to come into the English game it would either devalue the Championship playoff final to a massive extent since the winner would still have a game left against a PL side, or the playoff final loser would get a second chance against the team that finishes 17th which the PL clubs would never agree to as that would involve turkeys voting for Christmas by allowing a potential for four sides to be relegated.

 

[dontcallme]

The main sporting reason is that the team that just missed out on automatic promotion can still earn a place at the expense of an underperforming top flight side. By beating the side that finished 18th you've earned the place on sporting merit, and if you lose then you prove you don't belong in the top flight. Basically the top flight side has everything to lose and the second tier side has everything to gain.

But if this were to come into the English game it would either devalue the Championship playoff final to a massive extent since the winner would still have a game left against a PL side, or the playoff final loser would get a second chance against the team that finishes 17th which the PL clubs would never agree to as that would involve turkeys voting for Christmas by allowing a potential for four sides to be relegated.

Interesting food for thought.

It would be a bit strange seeing a Championship side playing 46 league games then 3 playoff games to get the chance to play the 3rd bottom Prem side who have just played 38 games. Seems a bit unfair.

 

[GutBucket]

Rich people want the least amount of risk possible, relegation playoffs would be an extra chance to stay up. One of the reasons why ESL was accepted by many, franchising model is safest, you can stop improving the team for years and won't get relegated, but also you can overspend and you won't do a Leeds, just a Man United. IMO we will keep getting more American owners and franchising will happen eventually, maybe some super league again. Not saying it will happen soon but it's inevitable.

 

[Marty]

Interesting food for thought.

It would be a bit strange seeing a Championship side playing 46 league games then 3 playoff games to get the chance to play the 3rd bottom Prem side who have just played 38 games. Seems a bit unfair.

Yes that is another drawback trying to do it in English football, just the disparity between the PL and the Championship. Germany does it but with two 18-team leagues, two up/down and third bottom/top play the playoff. It's a very structured and organised format (insert joke about German efficiency here).

I just don't think it works as long as the PL is a separate entity to the EFL. The PL clubs might try to push for a game between 18th and the Championship playoff winner but the EFL would kill that dead immediately.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Rich people want the least amount of risk possible, relegation playoffs would be an extra chance to stay up. One of the reasons why ESL was accepted by many, franchising model is safest, you can stop improving the team for years and won't get relegated, but also you can overspend and you won't do a Leeds, just a Man United. IMO we will keep getting more American owners and franchising will happen eventually, maybe some super league again. Not saying it will happen soon but it's inevitable.

Government plans are to introduce an independent football regulator which would probably mean the football pyramid remaining as it is now with any proposals to form some sort of cartel outlawed regardless of who the club owners are.

 

[cookiemonster]

II am already beginning to develop a intense dislike for this Harry Potter chap

 

[djhotspur]

Another thing, what a player Thiago silva is. Watched him a lot during the game, he is just incredible. His reading of the game and his ability on the ball is incredible.

 

[spursfan77]

Rich people want the least amount of risk possible, relegation playoffs would be an extra chance to stay up. One of the reasons why ESL was accepted by many, franchising model is safest, you can stop improving the team for years and won't get relegated, but also you can overspend and you won't do a Leeds, just a Man United. IMO we will keep getting more American owners and franchising will happen eventually, maybe some super league again. Not saying it will happen soon but it's inevitable.

Surely that goes for the majority of people, not just the rich!?!?

 

[spursfan77]

Government plans are to introduce an independent football regulator which would probably mean the football pyramid remaining as it is now with any proposals to form some sort of cartel outlawed regardless of who the club owners are.

Hopefully they introduce rules around TV money being kept as it is too.

 

[dontcallme]

Surely that goes for the majority of people, not just the rich!?!?

Nope, us poor folk are just plain stupid.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Hopefully they introduce rules around TV money being kept as it is too.

Probably for another thread but here is one view of the proposals, I expect TV money will still be a matter of negotiation between PL & TV companies ,maybe the regulator might ask for extra to be spread down the divisions, the most important aspects for us fans are 4: Fan Engagement 5: Protection of club heritage. Unfortunately, ticket prices not to come under the regulator.

An Independent Regulator for English Football – How, when and why? - Mountford Chambers - London Barristers Chambers

In the Queen’s speech on 10 May 2022 a clear announcement was made by Prince Charles that, “Proposals will be published to establish an independent regulator of English Football.”

www.mountfordchambers.com

 

[GutBucket]

Surely that goes for the majority of people, not just the rich!?!?

Obviously it was in the context of investing serious $$.