Let's All Laugh At... Let's all wonder what's going on at United?

[dirtyh]

Pogba just tested positive for Covid-19. Been pulled out of the France squad.

clearly been giving tanguy some loving

 

[wakefieldyid]

Today's Guardian provides further evidence that ManU remains as disfunctional as ever. (https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...aka-facing-14-day-quarantine-after-dubai-trip)

"Among the other absentees at the start of United’s pre-season preparations will be Aaron Wan-Bissaka, who faces a 14-day quarantine after a holiday in Dubai. Dubai was on that list before United’s final match, the Europa League semi-final defeat by Sevilla on 16 August."

It appears that he went on holiday to Dubai, knowing that he'd have to enter 14 days quarantine on his return, even though United's players are all expected back in training this week. That really does seem to be taking the p**s.

 

[Tucker]

Today's Guardian provides further evidence that ManU remains as disfunctional as ever. (https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...aka-facing-14-day-quarantine-after-dubai-trip)

"Among the other absentees at the start of United’s pre-season preparations will be Aaron Wan-Bissaka, who faces a 14-day quarantine after a holiday in Dubai. Dubai was on that list before United’s final match, the Europa League semi-final defeat by Sevilla on 16 August."

It appears that he went on holiday to Dubai, knowing that he'd have to enter 14 days quarantine on his return, even though United's players are all expected back in training this week. That really does seem to be taking the p**s.

Cant understand any professional footballers (or anyone else for that matter) going abroad at a time like this. I’d be fuming if I was OGS.

 

[Shadydan]

Cant understand any professional footballers (or anyone else for that matter) going abroad at a time like this. I’d be fuming if I was OGS.

I understand it because mental health is important and you shouldn't be restricted to travel within our own border you ply your trade in especially when you're not from this country.

The reason why there are more Corona cases is because these guys are constantly being tested, the public aren't being tested - if they were you can guarantee they'll be a lot of cases being blown up like this.

 

[Tucker]

I understand it because mental health is important and you shouldn't be restricted to travel within our own border you ply your trade in especially when you're not from this country.

The reason why there are more Corona cases is because these guys are constantly being tested, the public aren't being tested - if they were you can guarantee they'll be a lot of cases being blown up like this.

Nah, I don’t think it’s responsible to be taking your holidays abroad right now, let alone in a country that you know is on a list that means you will have to quarantine for a fortnight when you get back.

I get that people might want to go home to see family, or to have a holiday away from the paparazzi etc I just think travel at the moment isn’t worth the risk unless you really have to go.

AWB going to Dubai is just plain stupid given the circumstances, if I was an employer and one of my staff did the same I would be absolutely fuming.

 

[DJS]

He will be out on loan and will be first choice at another PL side.
They had to pay him that or he was walking away for free next summer, when they will likely be replacing De Gea

Recent reports state he will be staying at Man U next season and competing for first choice.

 

[Saoirse]

Nah, I don’t think it’s responsible to be taking your holidays abroad right now, let alone in a country that you know is on a list that means you will have to quarantine for a fortnight when you get back.

I get that people might want to go home to see family, or to have a holiday away from the paparazzi etc I just think travel at the moment isn’t worth the risk unless you really have to go.

AWB going to Dubai is just plain stupid given the circumstances, if I was an employer and one of my staff did the same I would be absolutely fuming.

I don't have a problem with holidays in general. A lot of foreign holiday destinations are safer than parts of the UK - there's no reason to think you're less likely to catch Covid in Cornwall than you are abroad. But going to somewhere you know is on the quarantine list is certainly taking the mickey.

 

[Tucker]

I don't have a problem with holidays in general. A lot of foreign holiday destinations are safer than parts of the UK - there's no reason to think you're less likely to catch Covid in Cornwall than you are abroad. But going to somewhere you know is on the quarantine list is certainly taking the mickey.

It’s not so much catching it abroad that I’d be worried about, it’s getting to Spain and then finding out the government have changed the rules and now I’ve got to isolate for a fortnight when I get home.

 

[Saoirse]

It’s not so much catching it abroad that I’d be worried about, it’s getting to Spain and then finding out the government have changed the rules and now I’ve got to isolate for a fortnight when I get home.

The way the goverment's been doing though such decisions have been announced at least 36 hours in advance, and with basically unlimited money it'd be far from difficult for a PL footballer to get back that quickly if they needed to

 

[Shadydan]

Nah, I don’t think it’s responsible to be taking your holidays abroad right now, let alone in a country that you know is on a list that means you will have to quarantine for a fortnight when you get back.

I get that people might want to go home to see family, or to have a holiday away from the paparazzi etc I just think travel at the moment isn’t worth the risk unless you really have to go.

AWB going to Dubai is just plain stupid given the circumstances, if I was an employer and one of my staff did the same I would be absolutely fuming.

So when is it responsible to go away? The Utd players were playing in a tournament last week so when are they meant to take their holidays? Are they meant to be penalised just because they reached the latter stages of the Europa compared to most other teams who are back from their holidays now, how is that fair?

People are going on like the players are going on their own free will, of course they would have been briefed of where to go and where not to go and told about social distancing so will be aware of the risks - we're talking about multi million pound assets here with professional club doctors, they know what they're doing.

The players get tested all the time and are out of their testing period so you're gonna have to expect some players pick up cases, what can you do about it? There's no ideal solution to this, we're just gonna have to get use to the fact that people are gonna pick up cases.

Also the last time I checked Dubai isn't in a restricted zone or have high cases, you're much more likely to catch Covid if you travel to London.

People are just generally being outraged at Corona, it's here we need to accept it...guarantee that if the majority of this country were being tested now the majority would show up with traces of Covid in them, we're just gonna have to get used to it for the time being.

 

[Tucker]

Also the last time I checked Dubai isn't in a restricted zone or have high cases, you're much more likely to catch Covid if you travel to London.

Maybe you should check again then? It’s like you didn’t even read the article. Here’s a quote from it...

”Wan-Bissaka has posted pictures of himself undergoing fitness sessions in Dubai, which is on the list of places from which people returning to the UK have to self-isolate for 14 days.”

As for when it’s responsible to go away, I’ve already said, not right now. Perhaps when there isn’t a global pandemic and rules regarding quarantine aren’t massively unstable and subject to change at the last moment.

A foreign holiday isn’t some god given right.

 

[HNIM]

Why would anyone want to take their vacation in Dubai in the summer? Balmy destinations all over Europe, and you choose a freaking furnace?

 

[Shadydan]

Maybe you should check again then? It’s like you didn’t even read the article. Here’s a quote from it...

”Wan-Bissaka has posted pictures of himself undergoing fitness sessions in Dubai, which is on the list of places from which people returning to the UK have to self-isolate for 14 days.”

As for when it’s responsible to go away, I’ve already said, not right now. Perhaps when there isn’t a global pandemic and rules regarding quarantine aren’t massively unstable and subject to change at the last moment.

A foreign holiday isn’t some god given right.

Yeah okay I will concede I didn't read that but the article doesn't confirm whether It's allowed him to travel to Dubai or not so let's not get outraged until we get the full facts. Also it says that OGS is actively encouraging his players to go away and refresh....

This is the point you don't understand, the clubs are encouraging the players to go on holiday and recharge the batteries, next season is a long one with very short break between matches and a short pre season so the players need a break. It's just absolute nonsense to say that they shouldn't be going away and totally unreasonable.

The reality of the situation is that despite a global pandemic people are suffering from mental health issues and are stressed out, athletes are no different in fact they are less at risk than the public because they are constantly getting tested and they have access to world-class doctors and facilities.

 

[Tucker]

Yeah okay I will concede I didn't read that but the article doesn't confirm whether It's allowed him to travel to Dubai or not so let's not get outraged until we get the full facts. Also it says that OGS is actively encouraging his players to go away and refresh....

This is the point you don't understand, the clubs are encouraging the players to go on holiday and recharge the batteries, next season is a long one with very short break between matches and a short pre season so the players need a break. It's just absolute nonsense to say that they shouldn't be going away and totally unreasonable.

The reality of the situation is that despite a global pandemic people are suffering from mental health issues and are stressed out, athletes are no different in fact they are less at risk than the public because they are constantly getting tested and they have access to world-class doctors and facilities.

Who’s outraged? I’m not.

Just think it’s irresponsible to go abroad at the moment. You don’t know whether or not you’re going to be able to meet your responsibilities when you get home or not.

Like I said, if I was an employer and a member of my staff went off to x country on holiday and the rules changed when they were away, I’d be pretty annoyed with them for leaving me short when they got back.

I’d also be pretty screwed if I came back off holiday and had to self isolate, unpaid for two weeks.

Sure people might be stressed etc but that doesn’t take away from the fact that if you go abroad you’re taking a risk that you’ll be quarantined for a fortnight when you get back. That’s irresponsible in my opinion.

 

[Shadydan]

Who’s outraged? I’m not.

Just think it’s irresponsible to go abroad at the moment. You don’t know whether or not you’re going to be able to meet your responsibilities when you get home or not.

Like I said, if I was an employer and a member of my staff went off to x country on holiday and the rules changed when they were away, I’d be pretty annoyed with them for leaving me short when they got back.

I’d also be pretty screwed if I came back off holiday and had to self isolate, unpaid for two weeks.

Sure people might be stressed etc but that doesn’t take away from the fact that if you go abroad you’re taking a risk that you’ll be quarantined for a fortnight when you get back. That’s irresponsible in my opinion.

Jesus now who's not reading lol...the clubs are pushing for it, not the players. You keep going on as if the players are the ones who are irresponsible, they are planned holidays consented by the clubs, there's nothing irresponsible about it. You're looking at it from the wrong angle.

 

[Tucker]

Jesus now who's not reading lol...the clubs are pushing for it, not the players. You keep going on as if the players are the ones who are irresponsible, they are planned holidays consented by the clubs, there's nothing irresponsible about it. You're looking at it from the wrong angle.

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I’m talking in general. More fool the clubs if they are pushing players to go abroad.

 

[Johnny J]

Maguire 'feared for life' during arrest

Manchester United's Harry Maguire says he feared for his life when Greek police arrested him last week.

www.bbc.co.uk

So, just to be clear on his alleged version of events, as I understand it, based on his interview this evening and what was apparently said in court: he's claiming that

• he had a few drinks but was "in control"
• when some unidentified Albanian men injected his sister with an unknown substance
• as evidenced by her eyes rolling back in her head and having some sort of fit and possibly fainting, and marks on her arm
• and then he and his friends and unwell sister were on his bus
• and he thought his bus was being taken to a hospital, but it turned out to be a police station but he didn't realise that
• and he and one of his friends were thrown off his bus by what turned out to be a group of plain-clothes police officers
• who didn't identify themselves but who got rough and aggressive with the girls
• and he and his friend went to get help, and managed to call at least his agent
• and then they went back to the bus, where the rest of his group and sister were
• and then he was accosted by the officers who kicked his legs a lot and handcuffed him on one hand and told him his career was over
• and he feared he was being abducted and feared for his life and tried to run away while one hand was cuffed
• but got caught somehow and was taken to prison
• where he didn't hit the police or attempt to bribe the police
• but despite all that he loves Greece and doesn't regret going to Mykonos but definitely won't be apologising as he's done nothing wrong

A dramatically different account to that of the prosecution in every sense of the word.

As I understand it. I could have missed a detail or two. Related without judgment. Don't @ me.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

Manchester United.

Fuck 'em.

 

[riggi]

 

[DJS]

Maguire 'feared for life' during arrest

Manchester United's Harry Maguire says he feared for his life when Greek police arrested him last week.

www.bbc.co.uk

So, just to be clear on his alleged version of events, as I understand it, based on his interview this evening and what was apparently said in court: he's claiming that

• he had a few drinks but was "in control"
• when some unidentified Albanian men injected his sister with an unknown substance
• as evidenced by her eyes rolling back in her head and having some sort of fit and possibly fainting, and marks on her arm
• and then he and his friends and unwell sister were on his bus
• and he thought his bus was being taken to a hospital, but it turned out to be a police station but he didn't realise that
• and he and one of his friends were thrown off his bus by what turned out to be a group of plain-clothes police officers
• who didn't identify themselves but who got rough and aggressive with the girls
• and he and his friend went to get help, and managed to call at least his agent
• and then they went back to the bus, where the rest of his group and sister were
• and then he was accosted by the officers who kicked his legs a lot and handcuffed him on one hand and told him his career was over
• and he feared he was being abducted and feared for his life and tried to run away while one hand was cuffed
• but got caught somehow and was taken to prison
• where he didn't hit the police or attempt to bribe the police
• but despite all that he loves Greece and doesn't regret going to Mykonos but definitely won't be apologising as he's done nothing wrong

A dramatically different account to that of the prosecution in every sense of the word.

As I understand it. I could have missed a detail or two. Related without judgment. Don't @ me.

As I’ve said before in this thread I think this is seriously dodgy and Maguire could be the victim here.