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Manchester City vs Spurs: Rivals claim Spurs way is ‘crazy’, says Ben Davies

Indisguise

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"It makes most opposition teams feel exhausted after playing them, as Watford’s manager Quique Sanchez Flores revealed last week."

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davidmatzdorf

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Reading articles like this one reinforces the reasoning behind Pochettino's reluctance to sign players who are widely thought of as being good enough to improve our squad. There are two issues that come to my mind here.

The first is relatively familiar, which is that the players have to be willing, or rather enthusiastic, to submit themselves to the demanding fitness regimen. There are going to be plenty of footballers in the market who are extremely talented, but do not strike Pochettino as having the type of personality to go along with that level of training.

The other is perhaps less obvious. I think that there is a limited number of players whose bodies can tolerate this kind of training without burning out or breaking down. Some footballers are durable and some are not - some have the right level of flexibility in the joints to avoid ligament injuries, the right degree of tension in the muscles to avoid pulls and tears and the kind of metabolism that doesn't respond to relentless running and exertion, over a long season, with a reduced immune system and a succession of infections.

Our fitness team evidently does a great deal of quantitative testing of the players' bodies. It would not surprise me if some of the players who left last summer (for example, Aaron Lennon) were sold not because of their attitudes, but because their physiques were not suited to Pochettino's methods. I think that is partly what he means when he says that he does not just want to sign players for the sake of it.
 

longtimespur

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Only time will tell this season as to whether the players can manage it for the whole season.(y)
Only another 28 or so games to go:cautious:
 

diamondlight

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Our fitness team evidently does a great deal of quantitative testing of the players' bodies. It would not surprise me if some of the players who left last summer (for example, Aaron Lennon) were sold not because of their attitudes, but because their physiques were not suited to Pochettino's methods. I think that is partly what he means when he says that he does not just want to sign players for the sake of it.
I thought exactly the same thing when I read the article, although I immediately thought of Lennon as an exception to the rule rather than an example of it. Lennon has always been a prolific tracker-backer.

But then again with his explosive anaerobic speed, perhaps Lennon relies on sudden bursts of pacey tracking back, as opposed to relentless closing down. The latter, not the former, is arguably what Poch is after. The attackers favoured by Poch seem to be not so much explosive pacey kinds of players than skillful endurance athletes (e.g. Lamela, Son, Kane, Chadli).

A really interesting football philosophy - and seemingly very effective.
 

davidmatzdorf

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I thought exactly the same thing when I read the article, although I immediately thought of Lennon as an exception to the rule rather than an example of it. Lennon has always been a prolific tracker-backer.

But then again with his explosive anaerobic speed, perhaps Lennon relies on sudden bursts of pacey tracking back, as opposed to relentless closing down. The latter, not the former, is arguably what Poch is after. The attackers favoured by Poch seem to be not so much explosive pacey kinds of players than skillful endurance athletes (e.g. Lamela, Son, Kane, Chadli).

A really interesting football philosophy - and seemingly very effective.

I was bemused when Lennon left for exactly that reason. What I was getting at above is that he has always been very prone to hamstring and groin problems, in part because of his exceptional acceleration. I can imagine that the fierce training regimen could have exacerbated that - or simply that he spends so much time getting nursed for niggles that he couldn't actually carry out the training on a reliable basis.

I've commented on a number of occasions that Lennon is an exceptional winger when he's fully fit, but loses a lot of his effectiveness whenever he has any discomfort.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Reading articles like this one reinforces the reasoning behind Pochettino's reluctance to sign players who are widely thought of as being good enough to improve our squad. There are two issues that come to my mind here.

The first is relatively familiar, which is that the players have to be willing, or rather enthusiastic, to submit themselves to the demanding fitness regimen. There are going to be plenty of footballers in the market who are extremely talented, but do not strike Pochettino as having the type of personality to go along with that level of training.

The other is perhaps less obvious. I think that there is a limited number of players whose bodies can tolerate this kind of training without burning out or breaking down. Some footballers are durable and some are not - some have the right level of flexibility in the joints to avoid ligament injuries, the right degree of tension in the muscles to avoid pulls and tears and the kind of metabolism that doesn't respond to relentless running and exertion, over a long season, with a reduced immune system and a succession of infections.

Our fitness team evidently does a great deal of quantitative testing of the players' bodies. It would not surprise me if some of the players who left last summer (for example, Aaron Lennon) were sold not because of their attitudes, but because their physiques were not suited to Pochettino's methods. I think that is partly what he means when he says that he does not just want to sign players for the sake of it.


In fairness, all of your points could be said about any club, manager or training method.

Poch hasn't cornered the market in hard work, good character and selection of the right players, that 's been happening for donkey's years and even Poch learnt this system decades ago.

For every Ledley King there is an Ade, and for every Eric Dier there is a Darren Anderton.
 

gloryglory

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I think Lennon left because Poch has a clear preference in attacking midfield roles for players who can exchange between positions and are unpredictable. Lennon had the fitness and the work ethic but he can't interchange the way all of Eriksen, Lamela, Alli, Chadli and Son can.
 

ginola007

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I think Lennon left because Poch has a clear preference in attacking midfield roles for players who can exchange between positions and are unpredictable. Lennon had the fitness and the work ethic but he can't interchange the way all of Eriksen, Lamela, Alli, Chadli and Son can.
Same with Townsend.
 
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