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fridgemagnet

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Reports out there today saying he wants to return to the EPL.
I feel his stock has dropped a lot by his time in PSG and can't see where he'll get a call from EPL team anytime soon.
As others have stated Germany, Italy or Spain I think (I know nothing) will help his stock rise again and then return to the EPL in a few years time
PL obvious candidate is Newcastle should EH not start well, after that Wolves? Everton? Leicester (i don't know how much credit Rodgers has with the fans?) Fulham if they don't start well? Heck Man U or us if it goes tits!
PSG being such a cluster f**k of a club and his pitched battle with Leonardo makes his progress hard to measure; i think he needs to go Germany or Spain, to club that's not in the spotlight, that he can get to overachieve. Not a bottom rung maybe a Europa level team; get some mojo and feel good back in his bones and silence a few doubters.
A club filled with mostly younger players.
 

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Galtier is a really odd appointment for PSG. I really thought they would go for someone with experience of managing big egos (i.e. Mourinho/Zidane), not someone that has only ever worked at relatively small clubs with tight budgets.

He's a great "project" style manager like Poch, so I would be surprised if he lasts very long.
 

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Galtier is a really odd appointment for PSG. I really thought they would go for someone with experience of managing big egos (i.e. Mourinho/Zidane), not someone that has only ever worked at relatively small clubs with tight budgets.

He's a great "project" style manager like Poch, so I would be surprised if he lasts very long.

Psg feels like Chelsea where it used to be musical chairs, appointing whoever was available at that time and giving them 18 months before sacking and hiring someone else.

It could be the stars align in Europe and galtier gets them a cl, or if not they'll just get rid and appoint someone else (and hasn't already been sacked by them!).
 

Japhet

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Seems like he was never really happy or settled at PSG. I think his heart is set on coming back here but his stock has fallen a fair bit. Conte's the man right now for as long as we can hang onto him. Good luck to Poch wherever he goes now though. Hope to have him back one day.
 

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Seems like he was never really happy or settled at PSG. I think his heart is set on coming back here but his stock has fallen a fair bit. Conte's the man right now for as long as we can hang onto him. Good luck to Poch wherever he goes now though. Hope to have him back one day.
TBH that's where his failings lie IMHO. He's never that resolute in his decision-making, be it in during matches or clearing up his future. And that's really one aspect I hope he could have been more decisive, which I would give him even more respect to that. This seemed like on hindsight, but the way he's still carrying himself in PSG like he was with us was the reason why I am so against him coming back to us. He hasn't really grown and learnt.
 

Japhet

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TBH that's where his failings lie IMHO. He's never that resolute in his decision-making, be it in during matches or clearing up his future. And that's really one aspect I hope he could have been more decisive, which I would give him even more respect to that. This seemed like on hindsight, but the way he's still carrying himself in PSG like he was with us was the reason why I am so against him coming back to us. He hasn't really grown and learnt.

It's difficult to judge anyone on a spell at PSG. It's a ridiculous club full of massive egos that constantly clash. Expectations are through the roof but there's little chance of them ever being fulfilled. They're trying as hard as anyone to buy success but continually failing. Not surprised he was unhappy there.
 

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All things considered, would you class his time at PSG as a failure even though he won quite a bit of silverware?
 

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Seems like he was never really happy or settled at PSG. I think his heart is set on coming back here but his stock has fallen a fair bit. Conte's the man right now for as long as we can hang onto him. Good luck to Poch wherever he goes now though. Hope to have him back one day.
I agree, he never looked happy there which is a little odd - having played there for a while I guess he´d have known what he was getting himself into, but granted, times were much different back then.

I don´t see his stock having fallen too much, everybody knows what kind of clusterfuck PSG is from top down. I´d certainly welcome him back at Spurs should Conte ever leave but for now, I´d prefer seeing him at a club in Spain or Italy rather than in the PL (Newcastle seem to be the obvious one here).

edit - the secont paragraph is not in irect response to @Japhet, just a general observation.
 

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All things considered, would you class his time at PSG as a failure even though he won quite a bit of silverware?
I don’t think so. Look at Tuchel. Kicked out for not winning the CL. Goes to Chelsea - and wins the CL. Almost suggests the problem is the way the club is run.
 

Japhet

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All things considered, would you class his time at PSG as a failure even though he won quite a bit of silverware?

Success or failure is always viewed relative to expectation. The expectation at clubs where money is no object is off the chart both from owners and fans. As there are only a handful of top trophies to be had, I think anyone in charge at PSG is likely to be viewed as a failure for a long time to come.
 

Timberwolf

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TBH that's where his failings lie IMHO. He's never that resolute in his decision-making, be it in during matches or clearing up his future. And that's really one aspect I hope he could have been more decisive, which I would give him even more respect to that. This seemed like on hindsight, but the way he's still carrying himself in PSG like he was with us was the reason why I am so against him coming back to us. He hasn't really grown and learnt.
Yeah if he ever was to return, I'd like to see him succeed at another club first.

PSG is a poisoned chalice but even so, he seemed to fare worse than most of his predecessors there. Given how bad our football was in 18/19 (including much of our incredible CL run) he hasn't really played attractive, effective football in about 5 years. It's hard to say how much of our decline was his fault as Levy forced him to run that squad into the ground, but his signings were poor and his systems and tactical decisions got more and more strange as time went on.

I love the guy and will forever be thankful for what he did at the club, but I don't think we'd be smart to bring him back post-Conte unless there's evidence he's still got it and can actually take us forward. It's far more likely that he comes back and taints his legacy rather than actually driving us to greater heights IMO.
 

Japhet

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Yeah if he ever was to return, I'd like to see him succeed at another club first.

PSG is a poisoned chalice but even so, he seemed to fare worse than most of his predecessors there. Given how bad our football was in 18/19 (including much of our incredible CL run) he hasn't really played attractive, effective football in about 5 years. It's hard to say how much of our decline was his fault as Levy forced him to run that squad into the ground, but his signings were poor and his systems and tactical decisions got more and more strange as time went on.

I love the guy and will forever be thankful for what he did at the club, but I don't think we'd be smart to bring him back post-Conte unless there's evidence he's still got it and can actually take us forward. It's far more likely that he comes back and taints his legacy rather than actually driving us to greater heights IMO.


He really needs to go somewhere that allows him a good deal of control without huge expectation. Hopefully he's learned from some pretty bad mistakes made here and doesn't expect total control of everything though. I think a spell in Spain or Italy might do the trick.
 

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Really hope he gets a great job next, deserves it. Shame how he was treated at end here, had he got what Conte is getting now who knows what dizzy heights he could have taken us.
 

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Seems like he was never really happy or settled at PSG. I think his heart is set on coming back here but his stock has fallen a fair bit. Conte's the man right now for as long as we can hang onto him. Good luck to Poch wherever he goes now though. Hope to have him back one day.
I believe it is all slowly downhill from here for Poch. He will continue to be handsomely rewarded but at lesser and lesser clubs.
 

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The PSG job is a bit of a poisoned chalice really isn't it.

Poch hasn't become a bad manager because of PSG. When the time comes and if the planets line up correctly and it's a possibility, I'd have him back.
 

Japhet

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The PSG job is a bit of a poisoned chalice really isn't it.

Poch hasn't become a bad manager because of PSG. When the time comes and if the planets line up correctly and it's a possibility, I'd have him back.

PSG is pretty much a write off for anyone. Ridiculous club with ridiculous owners and some ridiculous players. Certainly a poisoned chalice and more fool Galtier or whoever else for going there for anything other than money. I'd like him to come back at some point if he can get over the past few years and get back to being a coach.
 

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He never fit the role. PSG needed someone like Ancelotti if they were just going to throw together a million attacking superstars and needed their egos managing.
 

SandroClegane

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Really hope he gets a great job next, deserves it. Shame how he was treated at end here, had he got what Conte is getting now who knows what dizzy heights he could have taken us.
He was backed, he just chose to spunk his money on Ndombele and Lo Celso
 

C1w8

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All things considered, would you class his time at PSG as a failure even though he won quite a bit of silverware?

He failed, but the way the club is run, it's setup to fail.

Not sure if this next few years will be different with Leonardo leaving also this time, but until they stop trying to bring players in based on name they will keep failing. Maybe it says something that they arent trying to go after Ronaldo (from what i can tell) as I wouldnt have put it past them if they were sticking to their methods of the last five years. Pogba as well, though they did entertain that idea i think.
 

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I think no manager can truly succeed at PSG as it is now. There are just too many egos and the players hold all the power. All things considered, Poch did well there.
 
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