New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Spursidol]

Apologies if already posted before - First practical move in the High Road West development (which includes the 'stadium way' now named Moselle Square between WHL station and the new stadium) seems to be a 'demolition notice' to the Love Lane estate residents - not expected that there will be any actual demolition for circa 3 years, but its the start of the process. http://www.haringey.gov.uk/housing-and-planning/tottenham/consultations/high-road-west

It gives a timeframe though for better access from WHL station to the stadium

 

[camaj]

Interesting name. Moselle is the name of the river that runs through part of tottenham, parallel with WHL

 

[Hoopspur]

Interesting name. Moselle is the name of the river that runs through part of tottenham, parallel with WHL

Where Muswell Hill gets it's name from. I live in Muswell Hill - maybe I should go to the games by boat?

 

[Spursidol]

Planning of the new WHL station building continues - no surprises that I canm see.
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/arup-appendixd.pdf

The document also deals with the Northumberland Park station. Despite numerous comments on this site and elsewhere that 'its impossible', the document show that its plans make provision for the potential to extend the Victoria Line to Northumberland Park with phrases such as :

' There is potential for repurposing of the Victoria Line depot route from Tottenham Hale to Northumberland Park. If this initiative were to be taken forward, the new LUL platforms would sit on the east side of the rail corridor in land currently occupied by LUL for depot sidings and associated trainsheds'

So Harringay are clearly still gunning for it even if Network Rail is distincltly unconvinced of it merits !

 

[Spursidol]

Interesting name. Moselle is the name of the river that runs through part of tottenham, parallel with WHL

Yup the Harringay documents make it clear that the square is named after the river - which is presently in a culvert (ie underground pipe) but might be opened up as part of the scheme to make the area more scenic.

 

[longtimespur]

Where Muswell Hill gets it's name from. I live in Muswell Hill - maybe I should go to the games by boat?

Be quicker than driving

 

[markiespurs]

Be quicker than driving

The increased traffic is one thing I am not looking forward to when we have the new stadium

 

[longtimespur]

The increased traffic is one thing I am not looking forward to when we have the new stadium

Yes I think the intention is to get our crowds using public transport to and from WHL.

 

[Insomnia]

Where Muswell Hill gets it's name from. I live in Muswell Hill - maybe I should go to the games by boat?

I take Muswell Hill's when I go clubbing

 

[Wellspurs]

Muswell Hillbillies... surely gooner territory?

 

[Bobbins]

Randomly popped on Wiki and looked at the Spurs page - look what some cheeki kant (clearly a Gooner mug) has written at the end of the stadium piece, the twatty mug-faced cock-gobbler:

In contrast to the building of Emirates Stadium, where Arsenal funded a wide range of community benefits, Spurs have reduced their original funding of 100 affordable homes to 0 affordable homes, while increasing the number of properties created to 285 market-rate dwellings. In addition, they have reduced their £16m section 106 contribution for community infrastructure to £0.5m.[15] This is controversial in an area that has been affected by planning blight during the negotiations over the stadium, as well as being economically and socially deprived, with high demand for social housing.

 

[markiespurs]

Yes I think the intention is to get our crowds using public transport to and from WHL.

Agreed

Sadly public transport isn't an option for me though

 

[dovahkiin]

prof/galahad on coys:
"Stadium will house 60k. We are actively working to secure commercial deals that would give us a quick ROI."
"DL is asking for a multiplier of 8 (!) on the current deal to re-up with Under Armour, which could see a parting of the ways. UnderArmour are rumoured to be working on a deal with SCBC."


SCBC = south coast big club = saints

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Agreed

Sadly public transport isn't an option for me though

Banned for masturbating? @Houdini can give you tips for disguises and where the least attentive staff can be found.

On the stadium front, i thought the reason we didn't go to 60k originally was something to do with UEFA/FIFA rules about how close the seating must be to the pitch etc. and would mean abandoning the "homely" feel of the Lane? I've been meaning to ask but it's not seemed particularly likely until recently, so anyone clued up? Are we still going to have the seats within smiling distance of the pitch under the new plans?

 

[worcestersauce]

Banned for masturbating? @Houdini can give you tips for disguises and where the least attentive staff can be found.

On the stadium front, i thought the reason we didn't go to 60k originally was something to do with UEFA/FIFA rules about how close the seating must be to the pitch etc. and would mean abandoning the "homely" feel of the Lane? I've been meaning to ask but it's not seemed particularly likely until recently, so anyone clued up? Are we still going to have the seats within smiling distance of the pitch under the new plans?

Technically they mean seats with bums on them, if you cover the front rows and don't use them they are not seats to UEFA so no problem.

 

[Dinghy]

Banned for masturbating? @Houdini can give you tips for disguises and where the least attentive staff can be found.

On the stadium front, i thought the reason we didn't go to 60k originally was something to do with UEFA/FIFA rules about how close the seating must be to the pitch etc. and would mean abandoning the "homely" feel of the Lane? I've been meaning to ask but it's not seemed particularly likely until recently, so anyone clued up? Are we still going to have the seats within smiling distance of the pitch under the new plans?

IIRC that wasn't to do with capacity. That was something to do with getting it categorised as 'grade A' stadium or something like that... I believe that the decision was made that we didn't need that as the potential benefits (being able to hold EUFA finals etc) wasn't worth moving the stands back from the pitch. (I may have made all of this up though... I can have some extraordinary dreams! )

 

[berranet]

Spurs offer a new ground anyone know or believe we also offered to build a new factory for them.!?

 

[fridgemagnet]

Interesting name. Moselle is the name of the river that runs through part of tottenham, parallel with WHL

I thought it was a particularly violent part of Baghdad

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Yup the Haringey documents make it clear that the square is named after the river - which is presently in a culvert (ie underground pipe) but might be opened up as part of the scheme to make the area more scenic.

There are many hidden rivers in London, in culverts beneath streets: the Fleet, the Bourne, the Wandle and many others. Increasingly, there are moves to open them up again, only partly for amenity reasons. Increased flood risk from extreme rain events and rising sea levels over the next few decades will make it desirable for these tributaries of the Thames to be exposed and furnished with permeable banks, such as reedbeds, to provide places for storm runoff to collect and be slowed down before it discharges into the Thames. Exposing the Moselle/Muswell may be part of this, I don't know. A stretch of the Wandle in South London has already been adapted in this manner and there is a plan to do something similar with the Ravensbourne in Lewisham.

The other components in sustainable flood management would be green roofs (such as I have on my house) and linear rain-gardens, either in the centre of wider roads or along the pavements.

But no, Thames Water is planning an old-fashioned "super-sewer" instead, at billions of pounds in cost. it won't work. It just postpones the problem.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I thought it was a particularly violent part of Baghdad

Actually, 'Moselle' is originally a French/English spelling for the Mosel, a river in Northern Germany from which comes wonderful white wine made from Riesling.