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L.A. Yiddo

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thebenjamin

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As i said in my post, it won't immediately redress the fiscal advantage that the richest 4/5 have accrued, but increased revenues will mean we can spend more on wages (as a percentage of those revenues). As far as I'm aware, FFP hasn't gone anywhere and almost certainly won't as it's fundamentally designed to preserve the status quo of Europe's uber clubs (https://wordpress.com/stats/day/forensiconions.wordpress.com) and to an extent we are one of the best examples of well run clubs still having a place in modern football (as are Arsenal, Southampton more recently etc).

FFP regulations have been relaxed to the point of it being completely pointless. You can basically lose as much money as you want as along as you present a business model going forward.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32784375

Agree that we can expand our wage bill but relative to our competitors it will only keep us the same amount behind. Our wage bill will rise to £150M PA while Untd, Chavs, City will be £250M.

United's kit deal alone is worth more in a year than gate receipts from a year of selling out naming rights.

The stadium will help us stave off competition from beneath us. and steal a march on perhaps Liverpool and Arsenal. Although Liverpool's owners seem to pretty much just keep ploughing infinite money in no matter what.
 
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Bus-Conductor

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FFP regulations have been relaxed to the point of it being completely pointless. You can basically lose as much money as you want as along as you present a business model going forward.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32784375

Agree that we can expand our wage bill but relative to our competitors it will only keep us the same amount behind. Our wage bill will rise to £150M PA while Untd, Chavs, City will be £250M.

United's kit deal alone is worth more in a year than gate receipts from a year of selling out naming rights.

The stadium will help us stave off competition from beneath us. and steal a march on perhaps Liverpool and Arsenal. Although Liverpool's owners seem to pretty much just keep ploughing infinite money in no matter what.

I read about the "relaxing" of ffp some time ago but wasn't aware of the actual changes made (l'm still not - I need to do a bit of digging).

But I support them being relaxed in terms of owners being allowed to put money in, in the form of "gifts" (despite Spurs being one the best placed teams to capitalise on strict ffp) as this in no way endangers the clubs and It's the only way to challenge the monopoly of a handful of uber clubs who have reaping the reward of massive geographical and economic advantages for decades.
 

Lighty64

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As i said in my post, it won't immediately redress the fiscal advantage that the richest 4/5 have accrued, but increased revenues will mean we can spend more on wages (as a percentage of those revenues). As far as I'm aware, FFP hasn't gone anywhere and almost certainly won't as it's fundamentally designed to preserve the status quo of Europe's uber clubs (https://wordpress.com/stats/day/forensiconions.wordpress.com) and to an extent we are one of the best examples of well run clubs still having a place in modern football (as are Arsenal, Southampton more recently etc).

i know this chat shouldn't of been in the ITK thread, and has money mentioned about the Stadium, but it's not really stadium details either
 

Lilbaz

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FFP regulations have been relaxed to the point of it being completely pointless. You can basically lose as much money as you want as along as you present a business model going forward.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32784375

Agree that we can expand our wage bill but relative to our competitors it will only keep us the same amount behind. Our wage bill will rise to £150M PA while Untd, Chavs, City will be £250M.

United's kit deal alone is worth more in a year than gate receipts from a year of selling out naming rights.

The stadium will help us stave off competition from beneath us. and steal a march on perhaps Liverpool and Arsenal. Although Liverpool's owners seem to pretty much just keep ploughing infinite money in no matter what.

Yet ffp was about saving smaller clubs from bankruptcy. Which it has done. Football across europe and especially spain and italy are much better off.

Do the mega clubs gain from it? Yes. But when 40% of european football teams faced bankruptcy then it was needed.

Can we do more? Yes. But at least it's a start.
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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to any of those that gazed at where their seat used to be @Dougal how did your heart feel when at the game seeing that big chunk missing?

I doubt i will go to the old ever again, but i know if i do, i might need a spare hankie/box of tissues:ROFLMAO:
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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to any of those that gazed at where their seat used to be @Dougal how did your heart feel when at the game seeing that big chunk missing?

I doubt i will go to the old ever again, but i know if i do, i might need a spare hankie/box of tissues:ROFLMAO:
I was actually busy looking for my new seat in the Park Lane, and when I got to it I just turned round and said 'fuck', like or was a surprise and I hadn't seen it torn down in the last couple of months in this thread. The whole experience of being in the Park Lane and seeing the East Stand was strange, although I used to have a season ticket in the Paxton/west corner years ago. Overall I loved my new seat. Surrounded by the same familiar faces from Block 24, that can be a good and a bad thing. And my seat is right on the aisle, leg room! Block 24 boys and girls are struggling with the whole standing thing though. Personally it was a bonus for me but a couple of old fellas had to be moved mid-match. Will take a few weeks to iron out. One fella came up with the perfect response. I'll sit down if you sing. Unfortunately Block 24 was the opposite to the Park Lane and a few people will have to change their outlook, especially as we are right next to the away fans.
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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I was actually busy looking for my new seat in the Park Lane, and when I got to it I just turned round and said 'fuck', like or was a surprise and I hadn't seen it torn down in the last couple of months in this thread. The whole experience of being in the Park Lane and seeing the East Stand was strange, although I used to have a season ticket in the Paxton/west corner years ago. Overall I loved my new seat. Surrounded by the same familiar faces from Block 24, that can be a good and a bad thing. And my seat is right on the aisle, leg room! Block 24 boys and girls are struggling with the whole standing thing though. Personally it was a bonus for me but a couple of old fellas had to be moved mid-match. Will take a few weeks to iron out. One fella came up with the perfect response. I'll sit down if you sing. Unfortunately Block 24 was the opposite to the Park Lane and a few people will have to change their outlook, especially as we are right next to the away fans.

think i was in that block v WBA last season, and with there turn-out they were only above so no worries of banter getting too heated, though i did want to stick my walking stick where the sun don't shine with 1 middle aged ****:ROFLMAO:
 

Spurs1960

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FFP regulations have been relaxed to the point of it being completely pointless. You can basically lose as much money as you want as along as you present a business model going forward.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32784375

Agree that we can expand our wage bill but relative to our competitors it will only keep us the same amount behind. Our wage bill will rise to £150M PA while Untd, Chavs, City will be £250M.

United's kit deal alone is worth more in a year than gate receipts from a year of selling out naming rights.

The stadium will help us stave off competition from beneath us. and steal a march on perhaps Liverpool and Arsenal. Although Liverpool's owners seem to pretty much just keep ploughing infinite money in no matter what.

Marseille might disagree. They are still in force and still have to be adhered to, nowhere near completely pointless.
 
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