Match Threads Newcastle Vs Spurs - Match Thread - Day 30

[mil1lion]

Lets imagine for a moment we replace our back 4 with "world class defenders".. Pick any 4 you like. Do you think they would regress under Mourinho?

I think this is always the question over Jose. If he has a team full of top players he can succeed. Can he do that with a team like Spurs? It's pretty irrelevant to mention 4 world class defenders because we don't have 1 and wont spend money to get 4. He absolutely needs better defenders because this has to be the worst defence he's ever managed. It's more a question of whether we're a club that can provide those players for a manager like Jose. Otherwise we might be best off with a manager like Poch who will overachieve with lesser players.

I would love Jose in this window to rebuild our defence. However last summer we refused to push the boat out for Skriniar so I can't see anything different this time.

 

[Gspurs11]

Didn't watch the game but from what I'm reading it sounds like a typical Spurs 2nd half under Mourinho this season?

 

[chrissivad]

anyone has Sanchez passing completion stats for this match?

69.8%

Ahead of Lloris (61.9), Kane (60) and Vinicius (50)

Rodon, Ndombele and Hojbjerg all had above 90% as did son and Lamela (100%), but both subs

 

[Tonio]

I think this is always the question over Jose. If he has a team full of top players he can succeed. Can he do that with a team like Spurs? It's pretty irrelevant to mention 4 world class defenders because we don't have 1 and wont spend money to get 4. He absolutely needs better defenders because this has to be the worst defence he's ever managed. It's more a question of whether we're a club that can provide those players for a manager like Jose. Otherwise we might be best off with a manager like Poch who will overachieve with lesser players.

I would love Jose in this window to rebuild our defence. However last summer we refused to push the boat out for Skriniar so I can't see anything different this time.

Exactly what I'm trying to say. It will be interesting to see what a new manager can do with these defenders.

 

[razzmaster]

Always feels like Jose sends out 11 players and hopes they perform better than the opponents 11 players, based on ability alone.

A lot of the time this actually works, but is mostly down to having Harry Kane.

 

[hamsup_sotong]

69.8%

Ahead of Lloris (61.9), Kane (60) and Vinicius (50)

Rodon, Ndombele and Hojbjerg all had above 90% as did son and Lamela (100%), but both subs

Thanks.. that's a lot higher than I thought.. he seemed to give the ball away every time I bothered to look up

 

[ardiles]

anyone has Sanchez passing completion stats for this match?

I bet he passed successfully more times to the opponents than to his team mates.

 

[fortworthspur]

Always feels like Jose sends out 11 players and hopes they perform better than the opponents 11 players, based on ability alone.

A lot of the time this actually works, but is mostly down to having Harry Kane.

I agree, and I think the players buy into that bullshit, too. They thinkn they can turn it on for 10 minutes and win.

 

[ardiles]

So disappointed, honestly thought 4th was there for the taking but I think we’ve fucked it now ?

Well Axl - it’s probably because of our Appetite for (Self) Destruction.

 

[1966]

This. And the Lamela and Son counter. The tactics actually work. The players don't put the chances away. But Jose needs to adapt and doesn't

If your plan requires every player to finish with greater consistency than peak Messi, it's a bad plan.

(I'm not pulling that assertion out of nowhere: the kind of G/xG overperformance you're talking about has never been managed by anyone on a long-term basis.)

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

69.8%

Ahead of Lloris (61.9), Kane (60) and Vinicius (50)

Rodon, Ndombele and Hojbjerg all had above 90% as did son and Lamela (100%), but both subs

Rodon was very good.
Seconds before the equaliser Lamela should have passed to Son.....missed sitter there. That’s his problem, lack of vision and awareness.

 

[ardiles]

I'm getting very tired with this season. ?

At least you have better stamina than me. I got tired much earlier in the season.

 

[chrissivad]

Thanks.. that's a lot higher than I thought.. he seemed to give the ball away every time I bothered to look up

Successful

Unsuccessful

 

[dirtyh]

I’d be surprised if Sanchez can pass wind, certainly can’t pass a ball, the shitheap.

 

[Dannyspur]

69.8%

Ahead of Lloris (61.9), Kane (60) and Vinicius (50)

Rodon, Ndombele and Hojbjerg all had above 90% as did son and Lamela (100%), but both subs

The majority of that 70% were 3 yard passes across the back, almost every pass or header longer than that went to Newcastle.

 

[TheTanguy]

Thanks.. that's a lot higher than I thought.. he seemed to give the ball away every time I bothered to look up

How could you miss all those inch-perfect back-passes?

 

[mil1lion]

Exactly what I'm trying to say. It will be interesting to see what a new manager can do with these defenders.

The thing is a more attacking manager would probably do better. You have to play to your strengths but Jose doesn't think that way. Either rebuild the defence that Jose needs to succeed or get a manager who will be brave and attack more. At this moment in time attack is our best form of defence but we don't do that under Jose. Leaving Bale out just shows that he will always prefer a less productive attacking player who tracks back.

 

[hamsup_sotong]

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How could you miss all those inch-perfect back passes?

fell asleep

 

[shelfboy68]

I think this is always the question over Jose. If he has a team full of top players he can succeed. Can he do that with a team like Spurs? It's pretty irrelevant to mention 4 world class defenders because we don't have 1 and wont spend money to get 4. He absolutely needs better defenders because this has to be the worst defence he's ever managed. It's more a question of whether we're a club that can provide those players for a manager like Jose. Otherwise we might be best off with a manager like Poch who will overachieve with lesser players.

I would love Jose in this window to rebuild our defence. However last summer we refused to push the boat out for Skriniar so I can't see anything different this time.

 

[VegasII]

Well Axl - it’s probably because of our Appetite for (Self) Destruction.

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