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[Ben1]

Thanks, just cannot agree more. I think pretty much any top class manager who'll aim for top3/4 finish and decent CL football will ask for ~EUR 250-300 mln gross for improvement. Maybe 20-30% less if we are lucky

2 FBs, 1 CB, 1 DM, 1 AM are obvious

We'll likely need new GK and secondary striker but those are less burning

Our recent summer window has clearly showed the difference between 20-30 mln and 60 mln players

I disagree with this tbh. We only need so many players because our current players in those positions have downed tools/lost interest whether intentionally or not.. Poch has created this illusion that the squad is poor and it makes him look rather perky.

Yes, it needs more quality and yes, that'll cost money.

But we're only in rebuild mode, because Poch wants us to be. He has that recent football thing of seeming to believe anyone over a certain age is damaged goods.

 

[dontcallme]

Than I must repeat myself for the 94th.
Levy and Mourinho would in fact I believe work together very well.
They would collaborate excellently.

Would Mourinho still be gone in two years? Yes probably. But as likely is that he wouldn't leave before winning a trophy.

It is a terrible unfounded myth born out of judgmental narrowmindedness to say that they could no collaborate. With their experience, their personalities, no, I think they would get along very well.

Nobody can bullshit Mourinho. Not even Levy. In return, Levy wouldn't be served bullshit either. I would have tremendous faith in the combination of Levy and Mourinho if it were to be.

I agree.

Mourinho is good at working with experienced players. Given their recent performances it seems a world away but it is not out the realms of possibility that a manager like Mourinho could get performances out of Lloris, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and maybe even Eriksen.

Get our spine back performing and suddenly we don't need the overhaul.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Get our spine back performing and suddenly we don't the overhaul.

That's the strategy I'm in favour of. And yes, at some point the old players still would have to go. But at least we'd buy ourselves more time to sort it, maybe not have a mass exodus in one singular summer (which would be very hard to recover from) and maybe pick up a trophy along the way.

 

[stevenurse]

The thing that annoys me about this Jose/he needs money debate.

Jose wouldn't need mega sums of money. We are only 2 or 3 players away from being a top side. We just currently have no set way of playing, no best 11 in the managers eyes and no way of changing a game.

4 wins in 14 is unacceptable whatever way you slice it.

What do you disagree with there @Hercules?

 

[Mr Pink]

Again the Kool Aid must be strong. If you think Eriksen, Toby, Rose and Jan are gonna sign new contracts because of Jose, I think you’re very much mistaken.

This squad needs a total rebuild. There are people who are living in la-la land if they think it doesn’t, and a manager with a “winning mentality” comes in and everything is hunky dory.

Some of these players are past their best, some just want a new challenge, and some were never good enough anyway.

Eriksen off regardless.

I reckon Toby and Jan would stay.

Need full backs anyway.

 

[dontcallme]

That's the strategy I'm in favour of. And yes, at some point the old players still would have to go. But at least we'd buy ourselves more time to sort it, maybe not have a mass exodus in one singular summer (which would be very hard to recover from) and maybe pick up a trophy along the way.

The thing is, it appears that Alderweireld and Eriksen wanted to join an elite club with an elite wage for their last big contract. The elite clubs didn't come in. If stories are true then we did offer them a big wage.

So if they accept that no elite club are going to come in for them and we are prepared to offer a high wage then we might get them to refocus on performing for us and get them on a final contract.

On paper we have a very strong squad. I believe full backs are the only thing we would need if the players were performing.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

The thing is, it appears that Alderweireld and Eriksen wanted to join an elite club with an elite wage for their last big contract. The elite clubs didn't come in. If stories are true then we did offer them a big wage.

So if they accept that no elite club are going to come in for them and we are prepared to offer a high wage then we might get them to refocus on performing for us and get them on a final contract.

On paper we have a very strong squad. I believe full backs are the only thing we would need if the players were performing.

Quite so, and even if we couldn't remotivate Alderweireld or Eriksen specifically, some of the players who aren't performing at their best and might be thinking about leaving could become "like new players".

 

[dontcallme]

What do you disagree with there @Hercules?

He has fat fingers, constantly negging people by accident.

Here's my justgiving page to raise money to buy him a large keyboard

www.justgivingtostophercneggingpeople.com

 

[dontcallme]

Quite so, and even if we couldn't remotivate Alderweireld or Eriksen specifically, some of the players who aren't performing at their best and might be thinking about leaving could become "like new players".

Yeah, hard to know which players specifically could be remotivated. Maybe the players I've mentioned are already gone in their minds or already have offers behind the scenes.

 

[skaz04nik]

Poch has created this illusion that the squad is shit and it makes him look rather perky.

I'm not his advocate but:

FBs: Rose and Aurier are doing too many individual mistakes which are unacceptable for this level. LB is a question (Sess). But RB is burning
CBs: Toby is leaving anyway and Jan is aging so we need at least one CB to play with Sanchez
DM: it's pretty obvious we don't have one now
AM: Dele is running in and out of form and CE is finished so we need one player as well

We are not shit, just uneven. Solid attack (apart from AM) but poor defence.

 

[rossdapep]

No mate, it's got everything to do with his personality. Now obviously I don't know him as a person, so can only go by what I've seen of him in interviews etc... but that thing with the Chelsea doctor and gouging Tito Vilanova in the eye completely sums him up for me.

If he were to be our manager, I'd support him, obviously, but it would leave a nasty taste in my mouth, the same way supporting Graham and Redknapp did. And yes, I know that plenty of people love(d) Redknapp, but I always disliked him. Not for the football his teams played or the clubs he managed, but for his personality. Same goes with Mourinho.

I didn't like that either and it was appalling. I do however think you don't see everything that goes on. I believe that the physio was getting too friendly with some of the players (not in a sexual way) but in a way that was undermining him. He reacted in a bad situation and a bad way and refused to back down.

He's a 'everything on the line' kind of coach so you're going to have to deal with these things but I do think he's going to win stuff wherever he goes next and I'd like that to be us.

 

[Hercules]

What do you disagree with there @Hercules?

Meant to of been winnered!
Mate, my faking FAT bitch FINGERS!...

 

[rossdapep]

Meant to of been winnered!
Mate, my faking FAT bitch FINGERS!...

Hercules, are you an elephant with a smartphone?

 

[Gb160]

For me, hooking up with Mourinho would be like shagging the local slapper and then spending the rest of your life wondering why your marriage turned a bit shit.

Allardyce or Bruce would be shagging the local slapper.
Jose would be like shagging a former Miss World, who's planning on making a comeback.

 

[Ben1]

I'm not his advocate but:

FBs: Rose and Aurier are doing too many individual mistakes which are unacceptable for this level. LB is a question (Sess). But RB is burning
CBs: Toby is leaving anyway and Jan is aging so we need at least one CB to play with Sanchez
DM: it's pretty obvious we don't have one now
AM: Dele is running in and out of form and CE is finished so we need one player as well

We are not shit, just uneven. Solid attack (apart from AM) but poor defence.

I don't disagree about needing a little change. But even of those mentioned, Toby's bridges have seemingly been burnt, in part, by Poch. Whilst, Dier has been removed from the situation, came in for one game and back out again. I don't think he's great, but given a run I think he's better than what we're currently rolling out.

Thats really for another thread though, as its about the squad, not manager.

Ultimately, I have no idea if a new manager could get them going again or even change minds at all. However, the tools are there for a top 4 side, whereas some people would have you believe our squad is genuinely mid-table level.

 

[yankspurs]

The thing that annoys me about this Jose/he needs money debate.

Jose wouldn't need mega sums of money. We are only 2 or 3 players away from being a top side. We just currently have no set way of playing, no best 11 in the managers eyes and no way of changing a game.

4 wins in 14 is unacceptable whatever way you slice it.

If Jose is refreshed and motivated, he's still a top manager. For about 2-3 years when it all turns to shit.

He's also incredible content. His pressers, antics on the touch line. Impossible not to laugh. If Wenger was still at Arsenal and Mourinho was here, that would have made for incredible NLD viewing

 

[Shadydan]

Again the Kool Aid must be strong. If you think Eriksen, Toby, Rose and Jan are gonna sign new contracts because of Jose, I think you’re very much mistaken.

This squad needs a total rebuild. There are people who are living in la-la land if they think it doesn’t, and a manager with a “winning mentality” comes in and everything is hunky dory.

Some of these players are past their best, some just want a new challenge, and some were never good enough anyway.

Where did anyone say they're gonna sign new contracts?

The point is that a new manager like Mourinho gets a tune of of our players even if it's for the short term, he's done it before and I believe our players really need that at the moment.

 

[LeParisien]

what young players is Poch developing ffs?

He has developed plenty. Would you like a list?

 

[CheeseGromit]

I dont think it would be easy to speculate what Jose would want He would play a different style an formation

I think there are several players past their sell by date

Overall likely whatever

 

[ardiles]

We have a lot of good players in our current squad. The problem is that many of them are either hardly used or not utilised in the positions that they are best in.

All we really need are a few replacements in certain positions and a manager/coach to play them in the positions that bring out the best in them.