Paul Mitchell & Rob McKenzie

[arunspurs]

Maybe he expects too much.

We know the signings we made, but that doesn't mean they were Mitchell's recommendations or his first options.

I may see where the frustation from Mitchell's side may come

Was he already with us when we tried for Martial?

Well, Levy paid 5m for his services as compensation to Southampton. He should have expected more.
Mitchel joined us in Nov 2014, so, yes, he was with us when we tried for Martial.

Two targets Martial & Batshuayi could be Mitchells recommendation. If so, I understand Levy's frustration. Both weren't cheap signings. Having said that, Wimmer IMO was a genius recruitment.

If Mitchell had reestablished scouting network then thats a successful tenure IMO.

 

[CrazyConrad]

Could understand him leaving for City or Chelsea but Derby fucking County? A club who nearly got relegated from the Championship last season, how can we be out bid on Mitchell by them if that article true

Not sure 5th place is close to relegation but maybe we see things differently... :/

 

[Xeeleeyid]

No - she does the legal paperwork. She's Club Secretary - Darren Eales and John Alexander's old job.

John McDermott is the one who has been given most of Baldini's old DoF responsibilities.

I read an article somewhere that she has been very impressive and has now been given responsibility as part of the negotiating team and was due to fly out to France to assist with the N'Koudou discussions before Marseille asked for negotiations to pause?

 

[voxy28]

If Levy paid 5m for Mitchell, he cannot just resign unless another club pay for 5m or more. Some club must have paid the release clause...

 

[Kiedis]

"Dream job turns into nightmare"

Former Tim Sherwood fellater David Hytner pulling no punches in the headline.

 

[ShayLaB]

Read somewhere it's Leicester he's off to.

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

That's a strange one, hope it's just bs from the daily mail!

I don't think it is strange. When we see what's going on with other clubs in the transfer market. I think he has probably been working hard on poch's targets only again and again for Levy to say, sorry too much money. I am sure he was frustrated. He was highly thought of and now we have lost a great asset.

 

[Metalhead]

"Dream job turns into nightmare"

Former Tim Sherwood fellater David Hytner pulling no punches in the headline.

This is why people should take what is said in the media with a pinch of salt.

 

[Gbspurs]

He's no longer there?!?!?!? Well thats my deadline day in the shitter then. I always take off deadline day and stream it online solely for the few hours of Jim White going crazy over transfers. God damnt!

I have a sneaking suspicion he will make a heroic return just for deadline day.

 

[Metalhead]

I don't think it is strange. When we see what's going on with other clubs in the transfer market. I think he has probably been working hard on poch's targets only again and again for Levy to say, sorry too much money. I am sure he was frustrated. He was highly thought of and now we have lost a great asset.

Anyone who has experience and connections in the football world would know how Levy works before they took the position.

 

[guiltyparty]

the way I see it, Poch has been granted more authority in identifying players he wants from the title changed he had when he got his contract extention signed..

but that will not IMO affect or undermine Mitchell's job scope.. if there was, Mitchell is probably too young and taking that too hard.. Poch is someone I feel who always respect people alot..

and if some people thinks because of Mitchell's departure, Poch will be affected and is losing an ally and feel undermined and distrusted or whatever, come on..... they are grown up men working professionally earning millions... this is not a teenage school environment!

definitely I have no doubt Levy is some difficult person to work with.. and also personally feel N'koudou's deal is a driving force in this departure if reports are to be believed, especially on the ones saying Poch rates Njie (which I am quite glad).. everything just points me to Mitchell just not feeling at home...

seems terrible news on surface, but really I find it not that bad the media wish to paint it.. Poch, our manager, will steer the ship well without much hiccups I am quite confident.. is just a small and quick storm now.. no hard feelings too I reckoned..

Not sure I agree with this bit 100%. If you build a team up and people leave, it does affect you. I may not earn millions, but in my line of work, it is my job to build teams, and get the best out of them. And when you have a really good team you've put together that has earned success, and some of your key guys leave, it definitely knocks you - whether you fall out with them or not.

I had one of my best guys poached last year, and it left such a bitter taste in my mouth the way they handled it (biggest insight into how the BBC throws money around when it suits), on the back of other people leaving, I nearly chucked the whole thing in. I didn't – as you say, I am a professional – and I re-recruited and forged another team, and I still go for drinks with the guy at the Beeb, but I think people are trying to spin this so far into a positive it's getting a little silly.

It may not affect anything visibly but suggesting this was in any way The Plan is clearly off the mark. I mean, Poch quit Southampton because the chairman left – someone whose loss has had no detrimental effect to that club whatsoever.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I can't feel overly aggrieved at this without having any clue which signings he was responsible for, which he wasn't and why he's leaving. He is also, at the end of the day, a scout. We aren't losing Pochettino, we aren't losing Lloris, we aren't losing Kane, we are losing a scout. He may be a bloody good one but there will be other bloody good scouts too.

Looking at our first team, only Alderweireld and Alli have signed since he joined. Dier was signed in summer 14, Mitchell joined in November. Son, Njie, Wimmer, Wanyama, Janssen, those have also come since Mitchell arrived. The latter too I am hopeful for, Wimmer I'm very impressed with, Njie's injury makes it unfair to comment and Son clearly still has a lot of growing to do if he is to be an asset. If these players were all brought as a result of Mitchell's work then it's overall a positive result, but we have no way of actually knowing how responsible he was for each of these on an individual basis.

If Mitchell did an Arnesen and restructured our talent scouting to be more effective and in tune with the club's ethos then we must now find someone who can pick up where he left off. This is assuming that this is the plan, and not to give the manager more control. His job title did change from head coach to manager did it not?

Also, did we not bring back Ian Broomfield quite recently?

Either way, I'm sure Mitchell has been productive, I'm happy with what I see on the pitch (which is all any of us should really give a shit about) and I see no reason to start panicking over the loss of an internal recruiter.

 

[aliyid]

I just love the fact Levy called him Mitch... sounds as though this has nothing to do with negative reasons and far more likely that they've been 'head hunted' by other clubs and are leaving on good terms.

Should have little to no impact on the playing squad.

 

[guiltyparty]

I can't feel overly aggrieved at this without having any clue which signings he was responsible for, which he wasn't and why he's leaving. He is also, at the end of the day, a scout. We aren't losing Pochettino, we aren't losing Lloris, we aren't losing Kane, we are losing a scout. He may be a bloody good one but there will be other bloody good scouts too.

Looking at our first team, only Alderweireld and Alli have signed since he joined. Dier was signed in summer 14, Mitchell joined in November. Son, Njie, Wimmer, Wanyama, Janssen, those have also come since Mitchell arrived. The latter too I am hopeful for, Wimmer I'm very impressed with, Njie's injury makes it unfair to comment and Son clearly still has a lot of growing to do if he is to be an asset. If these players were all brought as a result of Mitchell's work then it's overall a positive result, but we have no way of actually knowing how responsible he was for each of these on an individual basis.

If Mitchell did an Arnesen and restructured our talent scouting to be more effective and in tune with the club's ethos then we must now find someone who can pick up where he left off. This is assuming that this is the plan, and not to give the manager more control. His job title did change from head coach to manager did it not?

Also, did we not bring back Ian Broomfield quite recently?

Either way, I'm sure Mitchell has been productive, I'm happy with what I see on the pitch (which is all any of us should really give a shit about) and I see no reason to start panicking over the loss of an internal recruiter.

Exactly. Let's not fall into the dual traps of 'this is the worst thing' but also over-egging that 'he never did nuffink'. There are far worse things that could happen, but it's also not what happens when everything is going swimmingly.

 

[Sweech]

I just hope we're keeping the same scouting infrastructure in place and aren't doing yet another total overhaul in how we scout and acquire players.

 

[guiltyparty]

I just love the fact Levy called him Mitch... sounds as though this has nothing to do with negative reasons and far more likely that they've been 'head hunted' by other clubs and are leaving on good terms.

Should have little to no impact on the playing squad.

It's almost like he planned his statement to give off just the right impression!

Seriously though, you're almost certainly right, although people read way too much into PR statements as if it's an individual having a chat, and not a piece of official documentation sculpted by about five different people and assigned to a name

Spoiler: Harry Redknapp doesn't write his newspaper column. Neither does Ian Wright. I know, shocking isn't it?

 

[Krafty]

How effective is a Head of recruitment or what not going to be for a club of our stature now?

Mitchell at Southampton = Arnesen with us. Lots of potential for the club (southampton, spurs), a good transfer budget and plenty of areas of the team to improve. When players turn out to be very good, they end up being sold and a replacement is needed. Not looking at top players, operating on the next level down where there are more players available, more potentially top players, and more chance of making a success as the expectations aren't too high.

Arnesen went to Chelsea and did not really do much (certainly on the first team). Mitchell joins us and we go up a level, where there aren't too many obvious areas for improvement in the squad (DM and striker being the obvious ones, and have been signed) and to really improve the first XI you would need big bucks, pretty well known signings, even if they are teenagers they will be known to everyone.

Basically, Poch has got us to a point where we have stability, we don't have to sell first teamers as we *appear* well set up for CL football and success, and we have lots of quality youth coming through to either break through or just add depth, so what really can a Mitchell or MacKenzie do, if they are only focused on the first team?

 

[KingKay]

Keep deluding yourself mate

We will get nowhere with Dan Jong Un in charge of our club, the guy is holding us back big time

 

[spursfan77]

This is why people should take what is said in the media with a pinch of salt.

And he's a gooner

 

[nidge]

Could understand him leaving for City or Chelsea but Derby fucking County? A club who nearly got relegated from the Championship last season, how can we be out bid on Mitchell by them if that article true

If finishing 5th is nearly getting relegated then you would be correct.