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Player Watch: Clément Lenglet

spursfan77

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Honestly you can watch every Barca game like myself and you wont have a lot to go on. He has been a bit part player for the last couple of years now. Even so it's impossible to tell how he would do with a Conte team in a back 3. If it's a loan move then it makes it a hell of a lot less risk. As long as we get first option at an agreed fee if he comes good then it sounds smart. I personally see us going with either Bremer (if we get him) or Romero as left centre back, I wouldn't even rule out Dier shifting there as the ball playing lcb (I think we would try and have our 3 best CBs together). What this does though is ensure if that doesn't work then we still have him and Davies who are more natural for that role. He's still young as well so I have no idea how anyone can write him off.

Well if it is true that we want two centrebacks in then him and bremer would make quite a bit of sense. If Conte thinks he can unlock the player then who are we to argue.
 

Bulletspur

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but we want to win the league this season

we aren't going to win the league, regardless of who we sign.

We are not going to win the league as much as we all hope.
For every reason any of you can give for us not winning the league next season, I am sure I will be able to counter it. Not saying that we are definitely going to win it, but I am sure we are going out to give it a damn good try, without being defeatists.

For the record I know nothing about Lenglet so will not judge or make any comments on him on hear say by others, but I do trust Conte's and FP's judgement
 

Beni

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For every reason any of you can give for us not winning the league next season, I am sure I will be able to counter it. Not saying that we are definitely going to win it, but I am sure we are going out to give it a damn good try, without being defeatists.

For the record I know nothing about Lenglet so will not judge or make any comments on him on hear say by others, but I do trust Conte's and FP's judgement
Yes we will give it a good go, Conte won’t demand for any less and I agree if Conte and FP feel he adds something in order to achieve that, I’m for it. You have taken a bit part of my quote and completely ignored the rest of my post in context to my reply to original poster.
 

tomaseh

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Well if it is true that we want two centrebacks in then him and bremer would make quite a bit of sense. If Conte thinks he can unlock the player then who are we to argue.
I guess Conte believes he can bring back the player Lenglet used to be. No guarantees, but if anybody can turn him around it is Conte. Everybody who is slating Lenglet should have a look at the stats comparison with Eric Dier from the 2020/2021 season. Dier turned it around under Conte and there is no reason Lenglet can't do the same.
 

djhotspur

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I would love to know where we are spending the money if we are signing Lenglet on loan… I get we are in for bremer but he’s 50m euros, spence is cheap, yes richarlison is cheap but he’ll be covered by winks and berg pretty much… so where is all our money going?
 

Yiddo100

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I would love to know where we are spending the money if we are signing Lenglet on loan… I get we are in for bremer but he’s 50m euros, spence is cheap, yes richarlison is cheap but he’ll be covered by winks and berg pretty much… so where is all our money going?
Presume we’ll find out when the window shuts
 

WiganSpur

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I would love to know where we are spending the money if we are signing Lenglet on loan… I get we are in for bremer but he’s 50m euros, spence is cheap, yes richarlison is cheap but he’ll be covered by winks and berg pretty much… so where is all our money going?
Seems like we're struggling to shift players on permanent deals so basically I think it's going on Bremer, Spence and Richarlison having spent £30m on Bissouma too. That's about £150m there and with Lenglet on loan that will be our window imo. Reckon net it will be just over £100m.

I'm going for:

Out:
Winks loan to Everton
Emerson loan to Atleti
Ndombele loan
Lo Celso loan
Bergwijn £20m
CCV £8m
Tanganga loan
Gil loan

In:
Perisic
Forster
Bissouma
Lenglet (loan)
Bremer
Spence
Richarlison
 
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Scot-Spur

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Seems like we're struggling to shift players on permanent deals so basically I think it's going on Bremer, Spence and Richarlison having spent £30m on Bissouma too. That's about £150m there and with Lenglet on loan that will be our window imo. Reckon net it will be just over £100m.

I'm going for:

Out:
Winks loan to Everton
Emerson loan to Atleti
Ndombele loan
Lo Celso loan
Bergwijn £20m
CCV £8m
Tanganga loan

In:
Perisic
Forster
Bissouma
Lenglet (loan)
Bremer
Spence
Richarlison
I would call that a decent window, nothing spectacular. Filled most holes, would still like somebody like Paqueta on top.
 

WiganSpur

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I would call that a decent window, nothing spectacular. Filled most holes, would still like somebody like Paqueta on top.
Yeah, it's an 8/10 for sure. Less risky LCB signing and another creative player would make it a 10.
 

Timberwolf

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Seems like we're struggling to shift players on permanent deals so basically I think it's going on Bremer, Spence and Richarlison having spent £30m on Bissouma too. That's about £150m there and with Lenglet on loan that will be our window imo. Reckon net it will be just over £100m.

I'm going for:

Out:
Winks loan to Everton
Emerson loan to Atleti
Ndombele loan
Lo Celso loan
Bergwijn £20m
CCV £8m
Tanganga loan

In:
Perisic
Forster
Bissouma
Lenglet (loan)
Bremer
Spence
Richarlison
That all sounds very plausible.

I suspect there will be a couple more twists though, with one or two deals falling through and new targets emerging from nowhere. This time last season we all would've bet anything that Tomiyasu was the one nailed-on deal while most of us hadn't even heard of Emerson Royal. Likewise Kulusevski seemed extremely unlikely a few days before the window closed in Jan.

I also suspect there will be more outs given how ruthless we were in January. I fully expect Gil (loan) and Rodon (sale) to leave, while Reguilon also strikes me as a likely departure.

While we'll do most of our business early for pre-season, I also wouldn't be surprised if we made a big opportunistic wildcard signing late in the window if we get some decent money from departures.
 

WiganSpur

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This could be a brilliant redemption story while we wait for our main target.

I'm hoping he's so good that the player we're waiting on might not be required next season.

I love going on Juve forums and reading about their opinions on Kulusevski and Bentancur, pre and post move, and I'll be doing the same with this guy
It seems he's a talented player with a massive confidence problem.

That means it's either going to go one of two ways, disastrously or brilliantly. The start he gets off to here will be crucial.

I guess it's sensible business if we get him on loan with a very favourable buy option but it's a massive risk to our season if it turns out he is genuinely finished.
 

JCRD

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Seems like we're struggling to shift players on permanent deals so basically I think it's going on Bremer, Spence and Richarlison having spent £30m on Bissouma too. That's about £150m there and with Lenglet on loan that will be our window imo. Reckon net it will be just over £100m.

I'm going for:

Out:
Winks loan to Everton
Emerson loan to Atleti
Ndombele loan
Lo Celso loan
Bergwijn £20m
CCV £8m
Tanganga loan
Gil loan

In:
Perisic
Forster
Bissouma
Lenglet (loan)
Bremer
Spence
Richarlison

Its a good window as it upgrades most in our squad who didnt contribute much (perhaps id keep Emerson). What I would say though and this is more perhaps out of greed, it lacks a bit of stardust, that cherry on top of the cake. Nothing spectacular but perhaps something that would capture the imagination.

Thats me being greedy.
 

Impspur1

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I’m in awe of the amount of people who have opinions and strong ones at that on seemingly every player we’re linked with.

I don’t know how people can keep up with the premier league, la liga, bundesliga, eredivise, serie A, ligue 1 etc. And not only that, but have considered opinions on many of the players playing in those leagues.

I mean, Lenglet v Bremner v Gvardiol v Bastoni v Ndicka. ??‍♀️

I’ve watched every Spurs game possible since about 1985 and I’m literally in awe of you lot.
Football Manager and FIFA have a lot to answer for. A few years ago my 14 year old nephew started talking about CAMs and knew everything about every player., I discovered he played FIFA!! ?‍♀️
 

GetSpurredOn

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I'm going for:

Out:
Winks loan to Everton
Emerson loan to Atleti
Ndombele loan
Lo Celso loan
Bergwijn £20m
CCV £8m
Tanganga loan
Gil loan

In:
Perisic
Forster
Bissouma
Lenglet (loan)
Bremer
Spence
Richarlison

Personally I’d be more than ok with that as our summer window business (although I think it’ll be Sanchez that goes, not Tanganga). Ideally if one or two of those outbound loans would turn to outright sales, and also the potential for Moura to move on (I like his enthusiasm but he is a bit too erratic, and he has been offered up as Richarlison makeweight in the press this week), then I’d hope for another attacking player, someone inverted off the right but with creativity, someone to compete/cover Kulusevski, be that Raphinha or Paquetta (or even Zainolo on loan to prove he’s over his knee injuries) I wouldn’t mind. Maybe a bit too much to ask for one window, but it would definitely push an 8/10 window to a 9/10, maybe even 10/10 if Lenglet can prove a point and rediscover the form that prompted Barca to buy him in the first place. Ideally I’d be happy to see Reguillon stay too, so we have two natural RWB’s and two natural LWB’s plus Perisic able to cover multiple positions to a very high level.
 
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Timberwolf

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Football Manager and FIFA have a lot to answer for. A few years ago my 14 year old nephew started talking about CAMs and knew everything about every player., I discovered he played FIFA!! ?‍♀️
Yeah in reality I reckon there are handful of well-informed posters that watch football non-stop and form well-rounded opinions on players across multiple leagues. On top of that there's the odd SC user who dabbles in La Liga or Serie A and has some specialist knowledge here and there.

The rest of us are merely depraved transfer junkies looking for the next high. Our opinions are formed from a mish-mash of Youtube comps, Fifa, FM and fifth-hand views based on Twitter, podcasts, news articles, mates down the pub and other SC posters. We're mostly just chatting shit based on half-baked knowledge and then arguing about it fervently as we steadily get more and more attached to our imagined version of the players Spurs are linked to.

Then once the season starts within 3 matches half of the shiny new signings are declared shit, slow and/or a waste of money.

It's truly a thing of beauty.
 
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WiganSpur

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Football Manager and FIFA have a lot to answer for. A few years ago my 14 year old nephew started talking about CAMs and knew everything about every player., I discovered he played FIFA!! ?‍♀️
In fairness, I don't think Football Manager should be put in the same bracket as FIFA but clearly it doesn't beat genuine knowledge.
 

FrankSpencer

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Yeah in reality I reckon there are handful of well-informed posters that watch football non-stop and form well-rounded opinions on players across multiple leagues. On top of that there's the odd SC user who dabbles in La Liga or Serie A and has some specialist knowledge here and there.

The rest of us are merely depraved transfer junkies looking for the next high. Our opinions are formed from a mish-mash of Youtube comps, Fifa, FM and fifth-hand views based on Twitter, podcasts, news articles, mates down the pub and other SC posters. We're mostly just chatting shit based on half-baked knowledge and then arguing about it fervently as we steadily get more and more attached to our imagined version of the players Spurs are linked to.

Then once the season starts within 3 matches half of the shiny new signings are declared shit, slow and/or a waste of money.

It's truly a thing of beauty.
Brilliant post.
 

Aleks

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Yeah in reality I reckon there are handful of well-informed posters that watch football non-stop and form well-rounded opinions on players across multiple leagues. On top of that there's the odd SC user who dabbles in La Liga or Serie A and has some specialist knowledge here and there.

The rest of us are merely depraved transfer junkies looking for the next high. Our opinions are formed from a mish-mash of Youtube comps, Fifa, FM and fifth-hand views based on Twitter, podcasts, news articles, mates down the pub and other SC posters. We're mostly just chatting shit based on half-baked knowledge and then arguing about it fervently as we steadily get more and more attached to our imagined version of the players Spurs are linked to.

Then once the season starts within 3 matches half of the shiny new signings are declared shit, slow and/or a waste of money.

It's truly a thing of beauty.
or they do one skill move or score an ok goal, then they become the signing of the summer and worth the ungodly amount of money we spent on them
 
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