Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

[double0]

People again talk about Sanchez who lets have it right was played out of position at right back. No body has mentioned what the hell was Vertonghen doing allowing Aubameyang to beat him on the nearside to get the equalising goal. Its very easy to at the minute to jump on Sanchez he's becoming the fall guy just as Eriksen is seen as holy grail.

 

[Syn_13]

So difficult when you have a young centre back like him. He needs to learn and be given the opportunities to do so, but at the same time we crave stability at the back right now. Vertonghen and Alderweireld are clearly the strongest pair at the club and it's not easy to accommodate Sanchez as a result.

I feel like he started well for us, but as I recall he was being played in a back 3. Perhaps that is best for him, where the other 2 experienced players can direct him and work with him. The only problem is we don't play the 3 at the back formation very well, even though I feel like we've got the personnel to do the job. It just doesn't seem to work for Poch.

 

[wrd]

People again talk about Sanchez who lets have it right was played out of position at right back. No body has mentioned what the hell was Vertonghen going allowing Aubameyang to beat him on the nearside to get the equalising goal. Its very easy to at the minute to jump on Sanchez he's becoming the fall guy just as Eriksen is seen as holy grail.

I don't know, Sanchez was caught out of position coming too far over for the newcastle goal where as Vert has just been done by a great ball and a fantastic run from Aubameyang. I don't think Vert made a positional error like Sanchez did, sometimes it's just great play. Also newcastle did us with that ball 3 times.

 

[double0]

Not just an judgement on his performance yesterday, but I don’t think he’s improved at all since he’s been here. When he first arrived he was a raw brute of a defender, now he seems more timid, slower off the mark, but no better at reading the game or playing out from defence.

I’m reluctant to write him off as top defenders often don’t mature until 25+ (Toby and VVD two obvious examples), but I am starting to worry that he’ll never be at the level of Toby or Jan. That’s even more concerning as both of those could be out of the club this time next year.

Totally disagree, last season he wasn't really given a run of games to cement his form he was in and out the team we went mainly with Vertonghen Toby and guess what we lost a hell of a lot of games with that pairing.

I hope Poch is stubborn and sticks with Sanchez because he is the future. Personally I'd like to see Sanchez and Foyth given more opportunities in forging a partnership at the back.

 

[double0]

I don't know, Sanchez was caught out of position coming too far over for the newcastle goal where as Vert has just been done by a great ball and a fantastic run from Aubameyang. I don't think Vert made a positional error like Sanchez did, sometimes it's just great play. Also newcastle did us with that ball 3 times.

So your suggesting Sanchez position was wrong in newcastle scoring but when you look at the goal again all three defenders Walker-Peter Toby Sanchez were pretty close in line then you look at Danny Rose who was way out of position. Strange

 

[bubble07]

I think we can all say he has slightly regressed but he is still so young

 

[wrd]

So your suggesting Sanchez position was wrong in newcastle scoring but when you look at the goal again all three defenders Walker-Peter Toby Sanchez were pretty close in line then you look at Danny Rose who was way out of position. Strange

Yeah I think it's a combination of Rose and Sanchez not communicating properly and both of their positions not being correct, the fact Sanchez was trying to get over then couldn't shift his weight to adjust to stop the cross tells you he was out of position. They were caught 3 times and more to the point we were comparing Vert vs Sanchez, I never suggested that Rose had no blame in the situation. I don't see why you needed to add the strange bit at the end of your point, argue the point, makes you look defensive tbh.

 

[King of Otters]

Totally disagree, last season he wasn't really given a run of games to cement his form he was in and out the team we went mainly with Vertonghen Toby and guess what we lost a hell of a lot of games with that pairing.

I hope Poch is stubborn and sticks with Sanchez because he is the future. Personally I'd like to see Sanchez and Foyth given more opportunities in forging a partnership at the back.

Do you think he’ll ever be composed enough on the ball to play the kind of football Poch wants us to play? I don’t think that side of his game is ever going to improve, and that’s just as big a problem as his frequent defensive lapses.

 

[double0]

Yeah I think it's a combination of Rose and Sanchez not communicating properly and both of their positions not being correct, the fact Sanchez was trying to get over then couldn't shift his weight to adjust to stop the cross tells you he was out of position. They were caught 3 times and more to the point we were comparing Vert vs Sanchez, I never suggested that Rose had no blame in the situation. I don't see why you needed to add the strange bit at the end of your point, argue the point, makes you look defensive tbh.

What you've said doesn't make sense if Sanchez was trying to get over to a position and couldn't shift his weight that Rose should be covering and be in line with other defenders that to me is a bit unjust. I guess you didn't mean it was Sanchez responsibility to stop the ball being crossed as the phase before that all happened again nobody seems to be saying a thing. As for Verts he was marking Aubameyang in the box and got beat again nothing said again.... to me there seems to be a witch hunt.

 

[kungfugrip]

I think it was asking a lot to play Davinson at RB yesterday. Considering the pressure of the fixture and the opposition, I think he can hold his head high. Yes he was caught out of position, yes he was turned inside out, and yes his legs had gone after 70 minutes. But he gave his all, and while that should of course be the very least you expect from a player who puts on the shirt, he did his best.

 

[Amo]

He was excellent in a three. The trio complemented each other perfectly.

 

[wrd]

What you've said doesn't make sense if Sanchez was trying to get over to a position and couldn't shift his weight that Rose should be covering and be in line with other defenders that to me is a bit unjust. I guess you didn't mean it was Sanchez responsibility to stop the ball being crossed as the phase before that all happened again nobody seems to be saying a thing. As for Verts he was marking Aubameyang in the box and got beat again nothing said again.... to me there seems to be a witch hunt.

With the vert situation, sometimes you can just get beat by a superb ball and run, aubameyang is one of the best poachers in the world and has rapid pace and he destroyed Vert with it. That's a little different to being caught out position wise, sometimes strikers roast defenders and there's nothing they can do.

Sanchez doesn't seem to know where he's meant to be positionally because he's rushing to get closer to auba which leaves the gap to be exploited and he can't shift his weight to get back. he should make sure that Rose has him covered before leaving Joelinton in acres of space which is why I say it was bad communication from Sanchez and Rose.

I don't think criticising Sanchez and Rose for leaving too much space 3 times for Newcastle is a witch hunt personally, I think people complaining about Sanchez after Poch decided to shift him out of position are being unfair however. He didn't have a great game but that's on Poch.

 

[dagraham]

Do you think he’ll ever be composed enough on the ball to play the kind of football Poch wants us to play? I don’t think that side of his game is ever going to improve, and that’s just as big a problem as his frequent defensive lapses.

It’s the biggest problem for me. He just panics when an opposition player is within 5 yards of him and he has the ball. Even the way he receives and controls it seems to put him at a disadvantage.

 

[ohtottenham!]

He’s doesn’t seem to read the game very well. He’s more of a blocker type CB and can be very rash. Let’s be honest he was all at sea first half yesterday but he was out of position.

His pace and recovery is good.

Jury is still out for me, on whether he will be a great CB or just an average one. Still young, time will tell.

Not just an judgement on his performance yesterday, but I don’t think he’s improved at all since he’s been here. When he first arrived he was a raw brute of a defender, now he seems more timid, slower off the mark, but no better at reading the game or playing out from defence.

I’m reluctant to write him off as top defenders often don’t mature until 25+ (Toby and VVD two obvious examples), but I am starting to worry that he’ll never be at the level of Toby or Jan. That’s even more concerning as both of those could be out of the club this time next year.

Generally agree with both of you. The reading of the game is key to everything else, positioning and reaction to developing threats. The composure doesn't seem to be there, especially against through balls or high balls in a counter attack.

And when composure's not there, then the decision making is reactive, and compromises the whole defence. This is not just about this season with the absence of Verts in the back line in the first couple of games, or Rose not reacting quickly enough when the CD has been breached...it's about Sanchez's own development as a central defender and how he reads the game.

He was put in a really tough position with the RB task yesterday, and he generally did ok considering. But, just as a defender, I was hoping for more development in terms of defensive awareness, composure and positional sense.

Maybe we've been spoilt with having Verts and Toby as the best CD pairing in the PL, and a huge part of that is because both read the game so well.

 

[Shadydan]

Watched the match again, he actually did rally well in the 2nd half especially save a couple of dodgy moments, had a really solid game overall. I think Gary Neville's commentary and his constant focus on him just made us nervous.

 

[wrd]

Watched the match again, he actually did rally well in the 2nd half especially save a couple of dodgy moments, had a really solid game overall. I think Gary Neville's commentary and his constant focus on him just made us nervous.

There was one point where Sanchez went 1on1 against Aubameyang, he feigned and passed it back to Lloris cool as you like then you have Neville crying "he'sssss all over the place" being dramatic as usual. Both him and Redknapp were overly emotional at every little thing, I've never heard so much panic about marking on the 18 yard box.

 

[Shadydan]

There was one point where Sanchez went 1on1 against Aubameyang, he feigned and passed it back to Lloris cool as you like then you have Neville crying "he'sssss all over the place" being dramatic as usual. Both him and Redknapp were overly emotional at every little thing, I've never heard so much panic about marking on the 18 yard box.

Commentators and pundits just like to focus on a narrative, seems common in this country. When there's a story like this they just like to run with it and create numerous angles in order to justify their agenda.

 

[Havre]

He was excellent in a three. The trio complemented each other perfectly.

Not sure if I agree - or at least not the way Pochettino usually played that back 3.

To me Toby is best in the middle in a back three. He reads the game better than the two others. It limits his diagonals a bit, but when Dier was the right sided CD he was still effective with his long range passing from the middle. Sanchez on the other hand is athletic enough to cover bigger areas than Alderweireld. Still we usually ended up with Toby on the right.

Sanchez is also a lot worse at marking than Alderweireld - so when crosses came in he would far too often lose his man.

That said. If I was Pochettino I would have played 3-4-3 for most games. Still think we played our best football under Pochettino using that formation some years ago. Sessegnon would fit that very well. We don't really have anyone on the right, but easy to forget that Foyth used to be an AM so who knows.

 

[rio bryan]

I think we can all say he has slightly regressed but he is still so young

But he is not still so young, if he was 18 or 19 ok but he is 23 Y/o and has played 86 games for Spurs and Ajax.

 

[bubble07]

But he is not still so young, if he was 18 or 19 ok but he is 23 Y/o and has played 86 games for Spurs and Ajax.

There ain't too many better PL centre backs his age or younger though