Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa

[mil1lion]

Conte doesn’t want him to be better than Emerson and Doherty. Because it would mean levy’s “club” signing profile works. There is literally no other reason for not giving him a start or giving him minutes when we were 3 or 4 nil up in the week. He wants to bring in his own signing and say I told you so. Poor kids future is getting ruined by not getting any game time. Bet he can’t wait to get a loan.

This theory makes no sense. He inherited a squad of Levy signings. Why would he be so against another one? Like he's OK with Skipp or Sess but Spence is just one too many? These theories are just bizarre.

 

[gibbospurs]

This theory makes no sense. He inherited a squad of Levy signings. Why would he be so against another one? Like he's OK with Skipp or Sess but Spence is just one too many? These theories are just bizarre.

Apart from Spence was signed whilst Conte was the Manager. He didn’t just inherit him did he. Infact he literally said Spence was a club signing.

 

[Albertbarich]

I hope and thinks he gets a loan this month and will smash it

I'm not overly bothered about Porro as I think this lad could be great, just needs a chance and I reckon he gets it at somewhere like Everton for the next few months.

 

[mr ashley]

Forest would be a good loan for him and he's better than Aurier so I'm sure they would be interested in getting him back.

Sadly I really can’t see forest bringing him (or anyone else for that matter) in without getting rid of others
In his position (rwb)
they have both neco Williams and serge. Neither of these players can go anywhere else this season so I can’t see how they make this work.
which is a shame because he would have fitted perfectly there (as far as Tottenham is concerned). I Suppose forest couldn’t wait for us to sort ourselves out and looked after themselves in the summer.
additionally, I don’t think there’s anyone else in the PL playing a back 3 aside from Brighton, making it hard to find a team prepared to take Spence on loan.
This is compounded if we are trying to shift Doherty too.
Makes a move for Emerson most likely in my opinion, as he’s a more attractive option for clubs looking for a rb

 

[mil1lion]

Apart from Spence was signed whilst Conte was the Manager. He didn’t just inherit him did he. Infact he literally said Spence was a club signing.

What difference does it make? Unless you think he wants to sell every Levy signing. This idea that he doesn't want Spence to do well is just crazy. Like he wouldn't want Spence to prove him wrong and turn out to be a top player. Conte is a winner and his motivation is to pick the best team to win matches.

 

[mil1lion]

Funny rating, now there's a response when you have nothing

 

[gibbospurs]

What difference does it make? Unless you think he wants to sell every Levy signing. This idea that he doesn't want Spence to do well is just crazy. Like he wouldn't want Spence to prove him wrong and turn out to be a top player. Conte is a winner and his motivation is to pick the best team to win matches.

Spence showed more flair and attacking ability in his minutes vs forest. I saw that with my own eyes. More than Emerson has shown in any game here. Yet we need attacking wb’s for his system to work?? And he still plays Emerson??

 

[gibbospurs]

Funny rating, now there's a response when you have nothing

Now you’re really looking silly. Give me a chance to reply ??‍

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

A tale of two players, we'll call them Player A and Player B. (Player A has 49 Caps for England's youth teams, Player B has 4 caps for England's youth teams)

Now in 2016, Player A and Player B are both 16 and playing for the same Championship club. Player A is in the senior team, and Player B is in the Academy. Player A goes on and is named in the Championship Team of the Year, while Player B remains in the Academy.

In 2017, the 17-yo players remain at the same club. Player A remains in the senior team, and Player B remains in the academy. Player A is again named in the Championship Team of the Year, and is named Championship Player of the Season. Player B makes no senior team appearances.

In 2018, the players split up - Player A remains, and is now a Premier League player - making 38 total appearances for the club. Player B leaves for a different Championship team - but makes only 2 senior team appearances in cup matches.

From 2018 - 2022, Player A would go on to make 79 appearances in the Premier League and Bundegliga. Player B would make no appearances in any league above the Championship. But, in the 2021-22 season, Player B is named in the Championship Team of the Year.

Which brings us to the 22/23 season for the now, 22-yos. They are reunited at the same club, with Player B joining his first PL club near the end of pre-season.

Halfway through the season, Player A has 19 total appearances, and Player B has 6 total appearances - both across all comps.

Despite the vast discrepancy in experience and success, we find many people declaring that Player A is not good enough, and should be sold, while at the same time, declaring that the manager has a vendetta against Player B, who should clearly be a regular starter in the same squad.

Stay tuned to see how this one ends.

 

[mil1lion]

Spence showed more flair and attacking ability in his minutes vs forest. I saw that with my own eyes. More than Emerson has shown in any game here. Yet we need attacking wb’s for his system to work?? And he still plays Emerson??

Well that sure explains why my post was funny. Silly me

I don't see what people are seeing with Spence. It's just this imaginary idea that he's prime Walker. He's just a player with potential and his cameo against Forest wasn't as great as you make out. He should have shown something yesterday but didn't. He doesn't look like a character who will put the effort in when you see him in the warm up. If Emerson warns up like that and does nothing when he comes on he'll get abuse. I do find it funny so many are convinced with Spence yet I wonder how many followed him before we signed him.

 

[Cavehillspur]

I hope and thinks he gets a loan this month and will smash it

I'm not overly bothered about Porro as I think this lad could be great, just needs a chance and I reckon he gets it at somewhere like Everton for the next few months.

Everton is a good shout with Patterson out injured, could be an excellent move for both, I think he would probably start for them for the rest of the season, if they are interested in loaning him of course.

 

[Sierragls]

Forest would be a good loan for him and he's better than Aurier so I'm sure they would be interested in getting him back.

Not sure agree with that, I watched Spence live vs Peterborough last year towards the end of the season and can’t say I saw too much in him to make me think he would be a worthwhile signing, I would happily swap Aurier at the moment because I think he would be better than any of our RWB options.

 

[gibbospurs]

Well that sure explains why my post was funny. Silly me

I don't see what people are seeing with Spence. It's just this imaginary idea that he's prime Walker. He's just a player with potential and his cameo against Forest wasn't as great as you make out. He should have shown something yesterday but didn't. He doesn't look like a character who will put the effort in when you see him in the warm up. If Emerson warns up like that and does nothing when he comes on he'll get abuse. I do find it funny so many are convinced with Spence yet I wonder how many followed him before we signed him.

It’s clear from the Emerson thread you have a soft spot for him. Also last season whilst playing against prem teams he was brilliant. Something Emerson has never been.

 

[Blake Griffin]

A tale of two players, we'll call them Player A and Player B. (Player A has 49 Caps for England's youth teams, Player B has 4 caps for England's youth teams)

Now in 2016, Player A and Player B are both 16 and playing for the same Championship club. Player A is in the senior team, and Player B is in the Academy. Player A goes on and is named in the Championship Team of the Year, while Player B remains in the Academy.

In 2017, the 17-yo players remain at the same club. Player A remains in the senior team, and Player B remains in the academy. Player A is again named in the Championship Team of the Year, and is named Championship Player of the Season. Player B makes no senior team appearances.

In 2018, the players split up - Player A remains, and is now a Premier League player - making 38 total appearances for the club. Player B leaves for a different Championship team - but makes only 2 senior team appearances in cup matches.

From 2018 - 2022, Player A would go on to make 79 appearances in the Premier League and Bundegliga. Player B would make no appearances in any league above the Championship. But, in the 2021-22 season, Player B is named in the Championship Team of the Year.

Which brings us to the 22/23 season for the now, 22-yos. They are reunited at the same club, with Player B joining his first PL club near the end of pre-season.

Halfway through the season, Player A has 19 total appearances, and Player B has 6 total appearances - both across all comps.

Despite the vast discrepancy in experience and success, we find many people declaring that Player A is not good enough, and should be sold, while at the same time, declaring that the manager has a vendetta against Player B, who should clearly be a regular starter in the same squad.

Stay tuned to see how this one ends.

player development isn't a linear process.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

player development isn't a linear process.

Clearly.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Clearly.

then why keep bringing up comparisons to sessegnon all the time? it's completely irrelevant and has no bearing on spence.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

then why keep bringing up comparisons to sessegnon all the time? it's completely irrelevant and has no bearing on spence.

Sess has been better than Spence every season since they were 16

While possible, it’s unlikely that Spence passed him over the summer.

Yet, too many are convinced Spence is the immediate answer at RWB, despite all the evidence that he is not ready yet.

 

[HildoSpur]

Conte doesn’t want him to be better than Emerson and Doherty. Because it would mean levy’s “club” signing profile works. There is literally no other reason for not giving him a start or giving him minutes when we were 3 or 4 nil up in the week. He wants to bring in his own signing and say I told you so. Poor kids future is getting ruined by not getting any game time. Bet he can’t wait to get a loan.

What a load of utter drivel. If you honestly believe this you are a fool.

 

[ultimateloner]

A tale of two players, we'll call them Player A and Player B. (Player A has 49 Caps for England's youth teams, Player B has 4 caps for England's youth teams)

Now in 2016, Player A and Player B are both 16 and playing for the same Championship club. Player A is in the senior team, and Player B is in the Academy. Player A goes on and is named in the Championship Team of the Year, while Player B remains in the Academy.

In 2017, the 17-yo players remain at the same club. Player A remains in the senior team, and Player B remains in the academy. Player A is again named in the Championship Team of the Year, and is named Championship Player of the Season. Player B makes no senior team appearances.

In 2018, the players split up - Player A remains, and is now a Premier League player - making 38 total appearances for the club. Player B leaves for a different Championship team - but makes only 2 senior team appearances in cup matches.

From 2018 - 2022, Player A would go on to make 79 appearances in the Premier League and Bundegliga. Player B would make no appearances in any league above the Championship. But, in the 2021-22 season, Player B is named in the Championship Team of the Year.

Which brings us to the 22/23 season for the now, 22-yos. They are reunited at the same club, with Player B joining his first PL club near the end of pre-season.

Halfway through the season, Player A has 19 total appearances, and Player B has 6 total appearances - both across all comps.

Despite the vast discrepancy in experience and success, we find many people declaring that Player A is not good enough, and should be sold, while at the same time, declaring that the manager has a vendetta against Player B, who should clearly be a regular starter in the same squad.

Stay tuned to see how this one ends.

Great story! I dont know who players A and B are.
So far it seems:
1) Player A bloomed earlier than player B
2) Player B seems to have eventually 'caught up'.
3) Player A's 19 appearences is better than player B's 6, but I don't think this stat on its own is enough to tell me who's the better player.

It's inconclusive for me who is better.

 

[ultimateloner]

then why keep bringing up comparisons to sessegnon all the time? it's completely irrelevant and has no bearing on spence.

Oh you broke the mystery!!