Player Watch Player Watch: Richarlison

[brendanb50]

Thought it was worth sharing as i remain a bit meh on the idea of signing him but who knows it may happen, may not. I was curious about what he does well vs. alternatives...

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These are his stat comparisons as an attacker and vs winger/attacking midfielders over the past 12months across the top 5 leagues.

As an attacker:

As a AMF/Winger:

As a outright attacker, his xg is a bit worse than you might hope but assists decent. As a AMF/Winger, these look much better. Hard to categorise his role in such a poor team last year.

The consistent aspect of both tables seems to be around his ability to pressure, block and win the ball (both on the floor and in the air) which are comparatively excellent. Bearing in mind he was playing for a struggling side last year, his touches in the oppo box and progressive carries also appear good for an advanced player (focusing more on the top box and bottom one on each point respectively).

For me looking at comparable players who I've seen a bit of, i'd say he's more comparable to the likes of Bowen and Martinelli, where his stats measure up favourably in goals/assists per minute albeit against players in teams which performed much better last year and who generally will have created more/scored a lot more.

Anyway, food for thought for those on the fence or unsure of what he actually brings to the table.

 

[dontcallme]

Thought it was worth sharing as i remain a bit meh on the idea of signing him but who knows it may happen, may not. I was curious about what he does well vs. alternatives...

Richarlison Stats, Goals, Records, Assists, Cups and more | FBref.com

Check out the latest domestic and international stats, match logs, goals, height, weight and more for Richarlison playing for Everton FC, Brazil men's national team and Tottenham Hotspur FC in the Premier League, Série A and World Cup

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These are his stat comparisons as an attacker and vs winger/attacking midfielders over the past 12months across the top 5 leagues.

As an attacker:

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As a AMF/Winger:

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As a outright attacker, his xg is a bit worse than you might hope but assists decent. As a AMF/Winger, these look much better. Hard to categorise his role in such a poor team last year.

The consistent aspect of both tables seems to be around his ability to pressure, block and win the ball (both on the floor and in the air) which are comparatively excellent. Bearing in mind he was playing for a struggling side last year, his touches in the oppo box and progressive carries also appear good for an advanced player (focusing more on the top box and bottom one on each point respectively).

For me looking at comparable players who I've seen a bit of, i'd say he's more comparable to the likes of Bowen and Martinelli, where his stats measure up favourably in goals/assists per minute albeit against players in teams which performed much better last year and who generally will have created more/scored a lot more.

Anyway, food for thought for those on the fence or unsure of what he actually brings to the table.

Thanks for that. His work rate appears pretty good off the ball. I assume those thinking he doesn't work hard are basing this off his demeanour rather than his input.

He'll need to add a few goals and assists to his current ratio as he won't be taking penalties for us. It could come once he's playing for a better team.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I don't want to tell anyone how to evaluate players (it can be very subjective) - but, I would just say that what is more important than "stats" are skills and attributes that can not always be sliced up into nice little data points.

For a player like Richarlison - he has the skills and attributes to play as a #9 - he can hold the ball up, he has upper body strength, he is good in the air. He also has the skills and attributes to play as a wide player - he has pace, and the ability (and willingness) to take players on.

He may not be "elite" at either position - but the versatility is exactly what we have been looking for in a forward player for years.

I don't know what that is worth in today's market. I'll leave that to Paratici to figure out in conjunction with all the other pieces he is trying to fit into next year's squad.

 

[kd2000]

It is a bit odd seeing as Moura wants to return to Brazil in the near future

Liverpool is often referred to as the English Sao Paulo

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I don't want to tell anyone how to evaluate players (it can be very subjective) - but, I would just say that what is more important than "stats" are skills and attributes that can not always be sliced up into nice little data points.

For a player like Richarlison - he has the skills and attributes to play as a #9 - he can hold the ball up, he has upper body strength, he is good in the air. He also has the skills and attributes to play as a wide player - he has pace, and the ability (and willingness) to take players on.

He may not be "elite" at either position - but the versatility is exactly what we have been looking for in a forward player for years.

I don't know what that is worth in today's market. I'll leave that to Paratici to figure out in conjunction with all the other pieces he is trying to fit into next year's squad.

He really is perfect for what we need. Can play in a front 2, can play instead of Son/Kane/Kulu - meaning he will get plenty of game time. I much prefer him than other CF targets who can only play as the main striker or as part of a front 2.

This signing just makes so much sense that it probably won't happen.

 

[kd2000]

Why would you rather save, say, £15m but get a less good, less versatile, less impactful player who doesn’t suit our needs quite as well?

I’d rather spend the extra £15m and get the better, more suitable player.

Here is the problem, of you overspend on one player by 15mil, you might need to underspend on another, or not sign them at all.
As an example, Conte seems to want Djed Spence, and the fee will probably be around 15mil. Should we ditch that, to spend 15mil more elsewhere?
Bare in mind, if it was for Richarlison, is there more of an identified need for Spence (potentially 1st choice RWB) or Richarlison (potentially 1st choice back up to Son/Kane)

There are probably many differing permutations involving many different players with Conte/Paratici changing their preferred choice dependant on how much they have to spend

 

[Kushal]

Liverpool is often referred to as the English Sao Paulo

Comparing Liverpool to Sao Paulo? WTH man! I take it you've never been to Sao Paulo then?

There's slums, gun violence, gangs, prostitution, drugs etc on another level. The second team in that city also almost got relegated recently. Everton.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Here is the problem, of you overspend on one player by 15mil, you might need to underspend on another, or not sign them at all.
As an example, Conte seems to want Djed Spence, and the fee will probably be around 15mil. Should we ditch that, to spend 15mil more elsewhere?
Bare in mind, if it was for Richarlison, is there more of an identified need for Spence (potentially 1st choice RWB) or Richarlison (potentially 1st choice back up to Son/Kane)

There are probably many differing permutations involving many different players with Conte/Paratici changing their preferred choice dependant on how much they have to spend

There is a lot of truth here.

But, I think we will end up finding savings in the CM position - where there are probably a lot more potential candidates with the attributes Conte is looking for than there are forward players, or RWB.

I do think Spence is a vital cog in this summer's business - as much because he is HG. But, I also see a forward player coming in to replace Bergwijn as also a critical piece.

 

[N'Obody]

Here is the problem, of you overspend on one player by 15mil, you might need to underspend on another, or not sign them at all.
As an example, Conte seems to want Djed Spence, and the fee will probably be around 15mil. Should we ditch that, to spend 15mil more elsewhere?
Bare in mind, if it was for Richarlison, is there more of an identified need for Spence (potentially 1st choice RWB) or Richarlison (potentially 1st choice back up to Son/Kane)

There are probably many differing permutations involving many different players with Conte/Paratici changing their preferred choice dependant on how much they have to spend

Agree with this.

As a fan it's nice to be considering every aspect of a transfer, the players themselves and their fees etc.

In this case, Paratici and Conte surely have plenty of targets as is known. But Trix has also mentioned plenty times that if we purchase one player or overspend even, then it means the rest of the plan changes along with it.

So for us to all worry or not worry about Richarlisons price is pointless in the bigger picture, as if we do overspend on him, I am sure the next position has someone in line relative to the budget. I'm sure paratici has every scenario already planned out, as that is his job after all as the DOF.

We as fans should just enjoy the process as this transfer window is going to be so different than other ones in the past. We are finally acting like a big club whos ready to back our manager with his targets and spend the money required to attain those said targets. We are doing what Liverpool do or what United used to in the past, picking the best players from other Premier league teams and then elevating those players to the next level.

I could name countless players where this way has been a success for the big boys. It's time we shopped at the big table and took whoever we feel is the right fit.

Richarlison price can't be helped as we live in a hyper inflated transfer market these days and we just have to make do with these crazy prices. I agree that his price isn't worth anywhere 60 million but I don't see us paying that much. More likely 45 with add ons and possibly a player going the other way. Being so fixated on the price doesn't help or benefit us as fans. We should focus on the overall deal and accounting work paratici will do, to get us a top deal either way. I don't see paratici being mugged off at all here.

Richarlison is definitely the right profile of what we need right now, he adds a different profile to what we currently have up top. Variety and a different option is what we need and I believe he will be a great success for us.

 

[topper]

Liverpool is often referred to as the English shit holeSão Paulo

fyp

 

[dontcallme]

Agree with this.

As a fan it's nice to be considering every aspect of a transfer, the players themselves and their fees etc.

In this case, Paratici and Conte surely have plenty of targets as is known. But Trix has also mentioned plenty times that if we purchase one player or overspend even, then it means the rest of the plan changes along with it.

So for us to all worry or not worry about Richarlisons price is pointless in the bigger picture, as if we do overspend on him, I am sure the next position has someone in line relative to the budget. I'm sure paratici has every scenario already planned out, as that is his job after all as the DOF.

We as fans should just enjoy the process as this transfer window is going to be so different than other ones in the past. We are finally acting like a big club whos ready to back our manager with his targets and spend the money required to attain those said targets. We are doing what Liverpool do or what United used to in the past, picking the best players from other Premier league teams and then elevating those players to the next level.

I could name countless players where this way has been a success for the big boys. It's time we shopped at the big table and took whoever we feel is the right fit.

Richarlison price can't be helped as we live in a hyper inflated transfer market these days and we just have to make do with these crazy prices. I agree that his price isn't worth anywhere 60 million but I don't see us paying that much. More likely 45 with add ons and possibly a player going the other way. Being so fixated on the price doesn't help or benefit us as fans. We should focus on the overall deal and accounting work paratici will do, to get us a top deal either way. I don't see paratici being mugged off at all here.

Richarlison is definitely the right profile of what we need right now, he adds a different profile to what we currently have up top. Variety and a different option is what we need and I believe he will be a great success for us.

Agree. I remember watching the above interview with Levy and the first thing he said about Paratici was about his tough negotiating. At the time I was a little disappointed as I'd hoped his scouting network or eye for a player would have come first. But we've seen how skilled Paratici is at getting deals done in January.

It's interesting to see Richarlison supposedly being our top target. So we need to negotiate and see if we can agree to a deal that doesn't mess up other deals.

 

[punkisback]

I think it’s All about balance. He seems like a great finisher and good at running at pace with the ball. Basically a son clone with worse finishing but better in the air. If we sign him and get rid of Bergwijn we’d only really have one creative winger who plays with their head up. Ideally we get rid out Moura as well and sign a creative winger similar to Deki or a close control dribbler.

 

[N17Jack]

It is all relative, but would you have been happy spending £70M on Fraser Forster to be back up to Lloris? I think it is safe to say that the majority of Spurs fans generally want to see the first team squad improving but not at any cost. Richarlison is not an obvious upgrade on any of our fort three, but instead a useful addition to the squad and can play anywhere across the front 3 in a rotation system (which we will need to implement). If we spend significantly over the odds for squad players it means we may not have funds for key positions (i.e. starting upgrades). That is why.

We will have to agree to disagree. The market dictates the price of any given player I am sorry to say not the fanbase of any football club, you either buy or you don't buy. It is the DoF and Managers job to choose the right personnel to improve the team. Do you think the fans of Liverpool care if they splash €100m on a player who has never kicked a ball in the Premier League, no they just want to watch a successful club. I am only interested in watching decent football and I am surprised anyone other than Daniel Levy and Joe Lewis care what we have to pay. Id be happy if we bought Mbappe and KDB too!

 

[dontcallme]

We will have to agree to disagree. The market dictates the price of any given player I am sorry to say not the fanbase of any football club, you either buy or you don't buy. It is the DoF and Managers job to choose the right personnel to improve the team. Do you think the fans of Liverpool care if they splash €100m on a player who has never kicked a ball in the Premier League, no they just want to watch a successful club. I am only interested in watching decent football and I am surprised anyone other than Daniel Levy and Joe Lewis care what we have to pay. Id be happy if we bought Mbappe and KDB too!

But this misses the point of why fans talk about how much clubs spend on players.

Like you, we all want the club to do well on the pitch. When we spend our money well, we do well. If we spend big money on players who don't perform to the level expected of big money signings then we stagnate as a football club.

Before Paratici and Conte we'd gone through a period of spending around £40m on Davinson, £50m on Ndombele, £35m on Lo Celso. Our net spend was bigger than previous but we were struggling on the pitch as we'd spent big on players that didn't live up to their price. We are still struggling to sell these players which again affects us on the pitch.

That's why some fans care about how much we spend.

 

[brendanb50]

I don't want to tell anyone how to evaluate players (it can be very subjective) - but, I would just say that what is more important than "stats" are skills and attributes that can not always be sliced up into nice little data points.

For a player like Richarlison - he has the skills and attributes to play as a #9 - he can hold the ball up, he has upper body strength, he is good in the air. He also has the skills and attributes to play as a wide player - he has pace, and the ability (and willingness) to take players on.

He may not be "elite" at either position - but the versatility is exactly what we have been looking for in a forward player for years.

I don't know what that is worth in today's market. I'll leave that to Paratici to figure out in conjunction with all the other pieces he is trying to fit into next year's squad.

on your last point, I think it’s worth noting we spent a combined 50m on Moura and Bergwijn, two players who could have been more than they have been for us and whilst they’ve had a few spectacular moments for us, neither has produced the goods consistently as a wide attacking player for us.

so if one player can provide that cover, goal/assist threat and some additional versatility, that on paper at least, reads as good value.

 

[AJW]

 

[wrd]

Everton ITK were on the money then

 

[dontcallme]

Would really like for this to be true.

 

[HNIM]

I'm not that keen on Richarlison but if Winks goes the other way and lowers the price a fair bit, I can live with it.

 

[JW72]

Liverpool is often referred to as the English Sao Paulo

Sao Paulo, Johno, Georgeo and Ringo