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Jay.

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How underrated is Son by those outside of Spurs. Just think about it, he’s a phenomenal player and has the attitude to match. He’s had plenty of praise but has been in the formidable shadow of HK.
So glad that now he’s in the 9 position, because he can reach absolutely unreal output levels, and be almost undefendable.

One of my favourite players of this generation.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I’ve said this for ages that it would make a HUGE difference once we changed our stale, negative, uninspiring, low energy leadership group of : Kane, Lloris, Dier, PEH.

Sonny, Madders & Romero are night and day.

I said it repeatedly and I’ll say it again, I genuinely think having Lloris as captain during our ‘golden team’ with Poch and then partly with Jose is part of the reason why we didn’t win anything.

People say Lloris is/was a good captain for France because he won the World Cup but I think that France team were going to win the World Cup with anyone as captain, whereas our spurs team and club needed someone uplifting and positive to get us over the line and Hugo & Kane + Dier & PEH are anything but that whereas just look at this video and the joy the team has with Sonny & Ange in charge supported by Madders & Cuti.

Love this video thank you for sharing.
 

mark87

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SpursSince1980

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Any chance we can persuade him to forgo international duty this week? Dude needs a rest. Especially considering he’s been carrying a small knock.
 

ultimateloner

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I’ve said this for ages that it would make a HUGE difference once we changed our stale, negative, uninspiring, low energy leadership group of : Kane, Lloris, Dier, PEH.

Sonny, Madders & Romero are night and day.

I said it repeatedly and I’ll say it again, I genuinely think having Lloris as captain during our ‘golden team’ with Poch and then partly with Jose is part of the reason why we didn’t win anything.

People say Lloris is/was a good captain for France because he won the World Cup but I think that France team were going to win the World Cup with anyone as captain, whereas our spurs team and club needed someone uplifting and positive to get us over the line and Hugo & Kane + Dier & PEH are anything but that whereas just look at this video and the joy the team has with Sonny & Ange in charge supported by Madders & Cuti.

Love this video thank you for sharing.
I think captain's choice is a reflection of the manager and also the culture of the team.

Before our rebuild we were a mature team with a proven manager, with the expectation that we should be winning things. It was likely a high-pressure, cut-throat work environment ; which is good for optimizing performances short term, but isn't good for nurturing. In that situation Sonny wouldn't be a good fit, as humanity + humility wouldn't be appreciated. Whereas someone like HK and LLoris would be logical choices because they command respect.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think captain's choice is a reflection of the manager and also the culture of the team.

Before our rebuild we were a mature team with a proven manager, with the expectation that we should be winning things. It was likely a high-pressure, cut-throat work environment ; which is good for optimizing performances short term, but isn't good for nurturing. In that situation Sonny wouldn't be a good fit, as humanity + humility wouldn't be appreciated. Whereas someone like HK and LLoris would be logical choices because they command respect.
Think you've nailed it mate.
 

Locotoro

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I think captain's choice is a reflection of the manager and also the culture of the team.

Before our rebuild we were a mature team with a proven manager, with the expectation that we should be winning things. It was likely a high-pressure, cut-throat work environment ; which is good for optimizing performances short term, but isn't good for nurturing. In that situation Sonny wouldn't be a good fit, as humanity + humility wouldn't be appreciated. Whereas someone like HK and LLoris would be logical choices because they command respect.
Can you imagine Conte ever picking someone like Son as captain? I don't think Son fits in that "Warrior" stereotype that someone like Kane, Dier or Hojbjerg may suit more. But for a young team someone like Son commands respect because he's the type of leader that you'd give your all for because you know he has your interests at heart and not just the team's
 

ultimateloner

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Can you imagine Conte ever picking someone like Son as captain? I don't think Son fits in that "Warrior" stereotype that someone like Kane, Dier or Hojbjerg may suit more. But for a young team someone like Son commands respect because he's the type of leader that you'd give your all for because you know he has your interests at heart and not just the team's
When the manager only cares for his own self-interest what more can you expect?
There is a reason why they don't last; If you exchange burn-out for results.
Having said that I do think they were the right appointments at the time if the aim was to milk every last drip of our assets (HK etc), but thats probably better for another thread...
 
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