Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[arunspurs]

They paid about 17 million for McKennie. Shows how far Ndombele has fallen

I will take this as a straight swap, if it means we save 41m in wages...Plus we get a all action midfielder who is ready to be in XI. Plus given he is American , there is the marketing aspect as well.

 

[Nicki78]

SSN reporting potential swap deal with Bayern in exchange for Tolisso

 

[thekneaf]

Our season fell apart once we kept playing the Højbjerg Ndombele double pivot. I don't care how many minutes Ndombele played, he was a rotter in our midfield. However I blame Jose more for being thick headed in persevering with it for so long.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

and he had more time than reguilon in all comps; still makes him the 8th most last season. people act like he was barely on the field.

and "looking gassed" is the whole thing: it's so much based on perception. it's like how he was running his arse off against bournemouth (to his and our detriment) and afterwards all i read was how he "barely tried"

He was gassed, anybody with half a brain could see he was finished at around the 65 minute mark in pretty much every game he played.

 

[chrissivad]

I don’t think anyone is denying there is an issue here, but you have to admit some members are going to the extreme to exaggerate the problem.

If he leaves we will have lost our only progressive, attacking minded midfielder and it’s going to end in tears if we don’t replace him adequately.

We can have a team full of soldiers, but without a bit of creativity and flair we’ll be hard pressed to score more than just counter attacking goals this season.

Agree, and it happens to every player.
Either world class or worst player they have haver seen for some posters....

Kind of need a balance of workrate and skill.
Having just a lot of work rate with little skill, or all the talent, but little work rate just doesn't work.

 

[Scott Spur]

Also, you were saying this when we were linked. You can't then go back and slate Levy for doing something you wanted.

"I hope this gets over the line, I dare say City & United are still stunned that Levy has made an actual transfer offer this early in the window.

I just hope our dear leader doesn’t agree a price only to try and knock £10M off at the last minute in exchange for 3 stadium tours and book of 2 for 1 vouchers for the Goal Line Bar"

I never realised I was in charge of screening players for the club Tiger. There’s are some very highly paid professionals paid to do such things and despite the fans excitement, there were clearly problems with this guy for those paid to investigate such things.

Also never realised that you took such interest in things other posters may have said several years ago. Someone rattled your cage this morning mate?

 

[tiger666]

I never realised I was in charge of screening players for the club Tiger. There’s are some very highly paid professionals paid to do such things and despite the fans excitement, there were clearly problems with this guy for those paid to investigate such things.

Also never realised that you took such interest in things other posters may have said several years ago. Someone rattled your cage this morning mate?

Indeed. Scouts etc who would have advised along with Poch who apparently pushed for him. Not sure how you can pin this on Levy.

 

[the yid]

Ndombele has all the ability in the world but another Ravel Morrison, Adel Taraabt

 

[Scott Spur]

I am far from a fan of Levy - not the place for that mind.

However, talented player, attracting glances across Europe and whether it be Poch/ Hitchen/ Whoever that banged the drum for him, Levy found the funds and got a deal done.

In this instance, it’s hard to blame Levy. The accusation typically is not making the funds available or failing to get the deal done.

Three managers have now all said the same thing, are any of us thinking Tanguy all of a sudden became a difficult player when we bought him?

As fans we are entitled to get excited about a new talented signing, but in this case somebody screwed up and it wasn’t the fans.

 

[Rosco1984]

I would take either option tbh. Tolisso's injury record is bad but he will probably cost us less in wages and have as big an impact on our squad as Tanguy is even if he is injured. McKennie is a no brainer huge talent and pretty much the opposite of Tanguy in terms of workrate. Doubt either are true though as ITK said this week there was 0 interest in Tanguy.

 

[thfc1989]

The warning signs about his attitude were there when we signed him (although I can’t say that I paid any attention to them at the time). There were articles about him always being too overweight and lazy as a youth player. Shame we didn’t look into that further before wasting the money

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Agree, and it happens to every player.
Either world class or worst player they have haver seen for some posters....

Kind of need a balance of workrate and skill.
Having just a lot of work rate with little skill, or all the talent, but little work rate just doesn't work.

I personally wouldn’t really quantify work rate and skill in the same bracket.

Sissoko is probably one of our hardest working players, but the lack of skill means he is merely a runner. Ndombele lacks a true warriors work rate, however it only takes one moment of brilliance from him to unlock stubborn teams and no matter what anyone says he has done that on a few occasions for us. Let’s not kid ourselves and pretend Tanguy is completely unfit either, you don’t complete as many minutes as he has if you are gassed after 5 minutes.

I know in the perfect world we would prefer Tanguy to have a good balance of both, but sometimes we can’t have everything we want. So we compromise.

People just tend to focus on his fitness and work rate and try negate the attacking intent he brings on the ball. He is the type of player you “allow” to be a bit lazy, so he can be ready for those moments of brilliance. I am not saying we should carry him every game, but we should accommodate him where necessary.

There simply isn’t another player in our squad who can create things under a hard press or out of thin air. Mckennie can’t either. He has a better work rate but nowhere near the press resistance or progressive passing ability.

 

[Scott Spur]

Indeed. Scouts etc who would have advised along with Poch who apparently pushed for him. Not sure how you can pin this on Levy.

I’m not sure anyone else was running the show back then, it certainly wasn’t Fab.

 

[Aleks]

we can argue about the qualities NDombele has, but he doesn't want to be here

we aren't seeing those qualities cause the manager isn't playing him, if he's not playing him then his spot is a waste and we are burning 200k a week

we need him out

 

[AJW]

I would take either option tbh. Tolisso's injury record is bad but he will probably cost us less in wages and have as big an impact on our squad as Tanguy is even if he is injured. McKennie is a no brainer huge talent and pretty much the opposite of Tanguy in terms of workrate. Doubt either are true though as ITK said this week there was 0 interest in Tanguy.

May just be a coincidence after yesterday’s news but feels like before we were open to accepting bids that came whereas now we are touting him out to try and find some kind of deal - even if it’s a bad one

 

[Duskwen]

Get Mckennie in now, loan back Sarr, gives us a extra year to rid of Winks and Sissoko at least

 

[Jamturk]

I don't think his basic will be anywhere near 200k a week.

 

[tiger666]

I don't think his basic will be anywhere near 200k a week.

Ally Gold mentioned wages approaching £200k but we obviously don't know the details of bonuses etc.

The ripple effect the Tanguy Ndombele transfer could cause at Spurs

If Spurs can land the Frenchman then it could have plenty of repercussions

www.football.london

 

[Russ1201]

SSN reporting potential swap deal with Bayern in exchange for Tolisso

Take it.

 

[freeeki]

If Juve and Bayern are interested then that bodes well for us.

Ndombele swap for McKennie sounds like we’d be robbing them but I’ll take it. Fuck it let’s go mental and steal Dybala while we’re there.