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If this was TN we’d never hear the end of it
What like incident against Wolves where an asthmatic sloth would have put in more effort?
That's already been swept under the carpet.
If this was TN we’d never hear the end of it
We do. One of the issues I noticed with Ndombele is that he was shying away from that with us, he wasn't showing for our CBs or to pick up the ball deep. He was turning his back, disappearing up the pitch and waiting for it to come to him (leaving Winksy in the lurch). That's why Lo Celso gets the game time, he drops back deep and shows for it.It's such a shame because we need some creativity from deep, exactly what Ndombele would bring.
Didn't Jose give Tanguy a chance against Burnly , Wolves in January??
We do. One of the issues I noticed with Ndombele is that he was shying away from that with us, he wasn't showing for our CBs or to pick up the ball deep. He was turning his back, disappearing up the pitch and waiting for it to come to him (leaving Winksy in the lurch). That's why Lo Celso gets the game time, he drops back deep and shows for it.
(Can't remember the game but there was a Sky analysis of this earlier in the season I think?)
wasn’t he carrying a groin injury back then.
After his groin Injury i think.. His injury problem was back in december
What like incident against Wolves where an asthmatic sloth would have put in more effort?
That's already been swept under the carpet.
Yes but do you want a player getting picked and then half arsing it around the pitch? I’m not saying that he definitely would but if he gets picked and doesn’t play to his capabilities then it’s on the manager.If he's going to be left on the bench we better win. A manager whose side is losing with a hugely expensive signing left on the bench will soon find himself under a lot of pressure.
eh? That's a weird way of looking at it because I wouldn't have mentioned it if you hadn't said what you didMy point being is that no one is talking about Sissoko and here we are months later still mentioning the wolves clip.
Me too. I’m hoping that this is just psychology and by the time that he gets picked he will be busting a gut on the pitch.He was carrying it until lockdown.
I just can't believe how quick some people are to write him off. Here's what I'd say, people have said that Jose needs at spurs and shouldn't be wrote off after less than a season and hasn't had his opportunity to bed in, make signings and what not. Which is absolutely the correct attitude.
However people aren't willing to offer Ndombele the same courtesy? I mean Jose at the very least 6-8 seasons of premier league experience under his belt but we're not willing to afford a guy who has come from a vastly different background and league the same time in order to adapt? I think it's ridiculous, give the guy some time and I hope the manager does also.
He was carrying it until lockdown.
I just can't believe how quick some people are to write him off. Here's what I'd say, people have said that Jose needs time at spurs and shouldn't be wrote off after less than a season and hasn't had his opportunity to bed in, make signings and what not. Which is absolutely the correct attitude.
However people aren't willing to offer Ndombele the same courtesy? I mean Jose at the very least 6-8 seasons of premier league experience under his belt but we're not willing to afford a guy who has come from a vastly different background and league the same time in order to adapt? I think it's ridiculous, give the guy some time and I hope the manager does also.
My point being is that no one is talking about Sissoko and here we are months later still mentioning the wolves clip.
I don't think the issues with KDB and Salah (Lukaku too) were ever attitude. They left to further their careers due to lack of playing time. With hindsight you could argue that KDB especially was where Chelsea dropped the ball, as whilst Oscar deserved his starting role at the time he jumped to China a couple of years down the line, just as KDB was ripping it up in Germany.
Mo Salah was behind Eden Hazard and Willian, two quality players that have brought Chelsea numerous trophies since he left for Fiorentina.
Lukaku he even bought back when at Utd and got one great season out of him and is now ripping it up at Inter. Mourinho also gets stick over Martial but again often chose Rashford ahead of him, the same Rashford that is still a key player for England and Utd.
Pogba is the example to use, and until recently nice guy Ole was having issues with him too.
The frustrating thing is that at Spurs Ndombele has no proper competition yet is not able to be trusted in said position due to clear issues with fitness and implied issues with application (possibly due to injury and struggling to settle).
It all just feels like another stick to beat Jose with.
Edit - That said I do agree with @danielneeds post above about Mourinho needing to find a way accomodate him but and being sure if he can. That said the current plan on trying to solidify the defence could be part of Jose's plan to integrate him.
So it was! Carragher labelled him a disgrace... just re-watched it. Can't say I saw much difference in effort from his cameo against Sheffield Utd either.It was Burnley.
If you watch Sissoko though he does the same thing the whole game. Always pointing at the player with the ball to pass it to someone else.So it was! Carragher labelled him a disgrace... just re-watched it. Can't say I saw much difference in effort from his cameo against Sheffield Utd either.
So frustrating as he has the vision, feet, power and killer pass all in him.
Good, he should be communicating to help others pick the right pass. Context is important here. I think if N'dombele made the same effort of Sissoko he would be in the team. Though it has to be said they are very different players.If you watch Sissoko though he does the same thing the whole game. Always pointing at the player with the ball to pass it to someone else.
Watch Thursday and he’ll do it all game.
He’s in the Team because he can run
It’s not that case though mate. Even when Toby has the ball and Sissoko is the right pass he hides and points to AurierGood, he should be communicating to help others pick the right pass. Context is important here. I think if N'dombele made the same effort of Sissoko he would be in the team. Though it has to be said they are very different players.