Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

[thisismyback]

I think most of us are well aware of this.

The fact is most of us would rather lose Toby on a bosman next year than lose him for £25m this year. That's why we're happy the clause has expired.

Fair 'nuff.

 

[thisismyback]

He must be one of the most poorly advised players in world football, by my count assuming he's on roughly 50 and was offered at least 150, he's heading into his 3rd year after that offer was made he's looking at about 15 million he's missed out on. Now you look at the likes of Roma trying to get him, they're not going to be able to cover those losses + additional going forward plus pay 25 million for him. The only chance he has of recouping any of that loss of earnings is if he leaves on a free and gets a mega wage.

According to Kristof Terreur, who is considered highly connected with Belgium players, he's currently on £60K and was offered £90K. If that is accurate, a £15M signing bonus and a 3 yr deal at £60K wk will make up for not signing a 5yr £90K extension.

His new club saves roughly £9M and he pockets a nice one time payday.

Now if he was offered £150K, that's another story.

 

[wrd]

According to Kristof Terreur, who is considered highly connected with Belgium players, he's currently on £60K and was offered £90K. If that is accurate, a £15M signing bonus and a 3 yr deal at £60K wk will make up for not signing a 5yr £90K extension.

His new club saves roughly £9M and he pockets a nice one time payday.

Now if he was offered £150K, that's another story.

I was going by the figures thrown about on here but 90k would make sense as to why he kicked up a fuss

 

[Jody]

5 minutes

 

[JCRD]

WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Armstrong_11]

So.... most likely another year with Toby. And 5 months to negotiate a new contract before he can sign a pre contract with another club.

I love him and hope he can work something out.

 

[dtxspurs]

He's a fucking monster and I can't wait to watch another season of Jan & Toby.

 

[thisismyback]

I was going by the figures thrown about on here but 90k would make sense as to why he kicked up a fuss

I don’t remember exact timelines but I believe the story was he’d agreed a deal in principle after Poch went to bat for him, then VvD transfer happened and he was on 135K and Toby’s camp wanted more. Levy told them to beat it.

There are a lot of differing figures out there. Toby was offered 125k-200k, VvD is on 135k-250k. My guess is it’s all on the lower end of the spectrum hence why Toby going on a free makes up for what he turned down. If he turned down 150k over 4-5 years, there’s no way he’d get that back on a free at 31. At least I don’t think he would.

 

[thisismyback]

He's a fucking monster and I can't wait to watch another season of Jan & Toby.

Just because the clause has ended doesn’t mean he can’t be sold. Possibly for even less.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Yeah I think everyone should hold on the wankfest until September 2nd, which is the latest deadline in Europe for a Top 5 league IIRC.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Yeah I think everyone should hold on the wankfest until September 2nd, which is the latest deadline in Europe for a Top 5 league IIRC.

Yes, Dad.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Yes, Dad.

Call me Officer, Son.

 

[JCRD]

Just because the clause has ended doesn’t mean he can’t be sold. Possibly for even less.

I agree and funny things happen in football eg injuries etc but for that to happen three things may need to take place although they dont HAVE to take place:

1) A team will need to pay more than £25m
2) Levy to take less than £25m
3) Toby to forego a huge signing on fee and bigger wages than what he would get in a years time.

If someone was going to buy him or if Toby was going to leave this summer - it would have happened by now in my view.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Just because the clause has ended doesn’t mean he can’t be sold. Possibly for even less.

He won’t be sold for less, that was the whole point of the clause

 

[Ben1]

Not to mention we've regained control of where he ends up. The idea of him falling cheaply into the hands of Utd, Liverpool, City or Arsenal was the worse thing about this clause.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Not to mention we've regained control of where he ends up. The idea of him falling cheaply into the hands of Utd, Liverpool, City or Arsenal was the worse thing about this clause.

Ok and if he doesn't sign a new contract (likely) he can still go to all of those clubs...for free.

 

[Ben1]

Ok and if he doesn't sign a new contract (likely) he can still go to all of those clubs...for free.

I am aware. However, in that scenario, its an issue for next summer when he's older, Sanchez/Foyth are more developed and we have 3 months to deal with the situation not two weeks.

Also we would get another year out of a top defender, which is potentially vital with the other changes in our defence. (Although I do think Sanchez plays a lot more this season).

 

[thisismyback]

He won’t be sold for less, that was the whole point of the clause

The whole point of the clause was to provide some leverage to the player in the scenario where the club exercised its option.

If he won’t sign an extension and another club makes an offer before the deadline that meets his wage demands but they offer £18M or £20M, you don’t think Levy would seriously consider it? The club doesn’t want either Toby or Eriksen to walk for free. They may have a price bottom where it’s worth keeping over selling and maybe that number is £25M in Toby’s case.

I’m not saying it’s going to happen but based on what has/hasn’t occurred thus far, it’s a possibility. If I was a Chairman and I knew I could come to terms with the player, I’d offer less than £25M.

 

[Spriggan]

Ok and if he doesn't sign a new contract (likely) he can still go to all of those clubs...for free.

No, he can only play for one club at a time

 

[ardiles]

The whole point of the clause was to provide some leverage to the player in the scenario where the club exercised its option.

If he won’t sign an extension and another club makes an offer before the deadline that meets his wage demands but they offer £18M or £20M, you don’t think Levy would seriously consider it? The club doesn’t want either Toby or Eriksen to walk for free. They may have a price bottom where it’s worth keeping over selling and maybe that number is £25M in Toby’s case.

I’m not saying it’s going to happen but based on what has/hasn’t occurred thus far, it’s a possibility. If I was a Chairman and I knew I could come to terms with the player, I’d offer less than £25M.

If another club offered £18m or £20m for him, I think it would have been more advantageous for us to keep him for his last season.

If he is hoping for a good signing on fee and wages at another club next summer, then he won’t be slacking off this coming season whenever he is used for our games .

He has to show that he is worth the high wages/signing on fee.