Player Watch Player Watch: Yves Bissouma

[NEVILLEB]

2. Played in 23 matches last season, was injured for 12 matches (Ankle Injury) but keep perpetuating that stupid lie that Conte didn't play him.

This is EPL games alone BTW. This was with us using PEH and Bentancur as our duo who managed to get us into the CL the previous season and they kept us comfortably in 4th until the world cup break.

He was never going to come in and head straight into the starting 11.

It's really not that hard to use google and find the facts if you're looking for them.

Dude give it a rest

He is better than Hojbjerg and should have been ahead of him in the pecking order. Conte clearly made an error.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Dude give it a rest

He is better than Hojbjerg and should have been ahead of him in the pecking order. Conte clearly made an error.

Yawn, you’re wrong but I have no intention of going around in circles again. There’s more than enough reasons given by me and others as to why he wasn’t picked.

If you think he made an error there’s nothing we can say to prove you otherwise.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

 

[BorjeSpurs]

2. Played in 23 matches last season, was injured for 12 matches (Ankle Injury) but keep perpetuating that stupid lie that Conte didn't play him.

This is EPL games alone BTW. This was with us using PEH and Bentancur as our duo who managed to get us into the CL the previous season and they kept us comfortably in 4th until the world cup break.

He was never going to come in and head straight into the starting 11.

It's really not that hard to use google and find the facts if you're looking for them.

He started 10 out of the 25 match PL squads he was in.

I think that Vicario, VDV, Udogie and Maddison are proving that you can go straight into the team if you are good enough.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

He started 10 out of the 25 match PL squads he was in.

I think that Vicario, VDV, Udogie and Maddison are proving that you can go straight into the team if you are good enough.

It’s not about how many starts he had, or how many 90 mins he completed or any other tangent in regards to his game time and how it was split up. OP said Conte was a **** for not using him, I simply pulled up the stats to prove him wrong. I was just clearing up a baseless statement. That’s all.

No argument in regards to your second paragraph, it’s easy to slot straight in when you’re replacing an aging spine in Lloris, Dier and Perisic. Maddison is an Eriksen replacement that we’ve needed for years and was always going to go straight into the first team.

PEH had just gotten us CL with Bentancur next to him. He then followed that up with his best season ever (statistically) so in no world would it be fair to just drop him for Bissouma the day he signed for the club.

The fact that last season was his best ever season for us kind of justifies Conte’s choice in sticking with what worked until it fell apart after the WC. And Bissouma still managed minutes and starts before his injury. This isn’t to say PEH is a better player than Bissouma, it’s just sound reasoning for sticking with what works. (Conte’s perspective)

 

[Chimbo!]

So you can blatantly lie and call Conte a **** for not playing him, which is one of the worst words you can throw at someone, yet when I correct you, it’s time to pull out the good ol’ gaslighting technique? And I’m being unpleasant?

You’re correct. I was rude about Conte, and gaslighted you. I’m sorry.

 

[Frank Blank]

Let's not get into the minutae of whether Conte was a #unt or not, but celebrate the fact we have not only a jewel in Bissouma but also someone who happens to be the nearest thing we have to a successor to the legendary Dembele - a player whose importance to us as a club during the Poch years has been underestimated by some.

 

[smallsnc]

The problem with Conte was he wanted to control play on the field by having us in a low block and counter with specific patterns of play. This fit PEH's strengths, but as teams figured out how to defend it, Conte did not know how or was too stubborn to come up with a plan B. While we had the WC striker to implement his system, we did not have that level of defense.

Frankly, Bissouma just did not match what Conte wanted. I do blame Conte for not playing him more but it is more because he was too stubborn to go to a plan B when plan A was found out.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

You’re correct. I was rude about Conte, and gaslighted you. I’m sorry.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Yawn, you’re wrong but I have no intention of going around in circles again. There’s more than enough reasons given by me and others as to why he wasn’t picked.

If you think he made an error there’s nothing we can say to prove you otherwise.

This isn’t a new view from me. I said he was making an error picking Højbjerg over Bissouma in Nov last year.

 

[Danny1]

Honestly who cares what Conte did or didn’t do. He clearly wasn’t right for us in any way shape or form. Only thing that matters is that Bissouma is a top quality player now, for a manager that plays the right way.

 

[Albertbarich]

On course for Player of The month for the whole Ieague I reckon.

He has been world class so far and I don't think that's hyperbolic.

 

[PLTuck]

Honestly, I'm trying to forget that Antonio Conte was ever a part of our great club. Forget about him.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

This isn’t a new view from me. I said he was making an error picking Højbjerg over Bissouma in Nov last year.

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He may have been making an error from your perspective, but from a purely objective perspective sticking with PEH/Bentancur looked like the right decision up until he got sacked. We didn’t really dip out of the top 4 until he was sacked so from his perspective it was a justifiable decision. Not my views, just an objective view of our performances with PEH/Bentancur as his preferred duo.

Moving forward though, I agree with your sentiment. Bissouma has shown he is much more well rounded and suited to the holding role in comparison. We finally have a true Dembele replacement, if you can ever replace a player like that.

 

[FrankSpencer]

Honestly who cares what Conte did or didn’t do. He clearly wasn’t right for us in any way shape or form. Only thing that matters is that Bissouma is a top quality player now, for a manager that plays the right way.

If he’s not in the running it would be a travesty! He’s been utterly class in the first 3 games.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

If he’s not in the running it would be a travesty! He’s been utterly class in the first 3 games.

And you still have opposition fans saying the best 4 midfielders in the league currently are Enzo, Rodri, Bruno Fernandes and Rice.

The only player you could say is a “better” player than Bissouma is Rodri. He pocketed Bruno with ease, Enzo is a bum and Rice whilst brilliant isn’t miles ahead of Bissouma if he’s ahead at all.

The vitriol just goes to show how brilliant Bissouma has been in these matches, my pick for player of the month.

 

[Frank Blank]

He may have been making an error from your perspective, but from a purely objective perspective sticking with PEH/Bentancur looked like the right decision up until he got sacked. We didn’t really dip out of the top 4 until he was sacked so from his perspective it was a justifiable decision. Not my views, just an objective view of our performances with PEH/Bentancur as his preferred duo.

Moving forward though, I agree with your sentiment. Bissouma has shown he is much more well rounded and suited to the box to box role in comparison. We finally have a true Dembele replacement, if you can ever replace a player like that.

Not only that, he also has that important attribute of being able to beat the press - either by taking the direct approach such as creating space for himself, or bringing others into play. We've already shown we have the technical tools to employ a short passing game at a higher tempo - a far cry from the counter attacking philosophy under Conte, which invited needless pressure on our defence.

Assuming Bentancur comes back to something approaching his pre-injury best, a midfield three of Bissouma, Bentancur and Maddison is ball bustingly good.

 

[FrankSpencer]

And you still have opposition fans saying the best 4 midfielders in the league currently are Enzo, Rodri, Bruno Fernandes and Rice.

The only player you could say is a “better” player than Bissouma is Rodri. He pocketed Bruno with ease, Enzo is a bum and Rice whilst brilliant isn’t miles ahead of Bissouma if he’s ahead at all.

The vitriol just goes to show how brilliant Bissouma has been in these matches, my pick for player of the month.

Fernandes and Rice have not been on the same level over these 3 games.

Rodri on the other hand has been very handy for a sustained period now, including a great goal yesterday to win MC the game.

 

[yido-1989]

Simple fact is Conte & Mourinho are dinosaurs in the footballing world, they only play players that suit their systems. Using your eyes and not stats you can see bissouma is a much better all round midfielder than hojbjerg, he only looked above average when playing with bentancur. Really looking forward to bissouma and bentancur playing together, it’s time to sell hojbjerg and use the other 4 we have.

 

[Danny1]

Just wanted to bump this thread. Biss you are fucking quality!!