Robbo or Cerny at Wembley

[Michey]

My heart says Robbo but my head says Cerny, therefore I shall not vote. Whoever is in goal will do us proud, I'm sure.

....easy way out i see :wink:

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

Cerny because he reduces the chance of opposition by carefuly distributing the ball

 

[KeaneIsKeane]

Why does anyone want to be a keeper?

 

[gregga]

Cerny because he reduces the chance of opposition by carefuly distributing the ball

Cerny's throwing is very good but his kicking is truly abysmal, Robbo beats him hands down in that department.

 

[KeaneIsKeane]

Yeah Cerny's kicking isn't as good as Robbo's, but he's much more likely to throw it or play it to the defense, which offsets this I think, a little.

 

[chrissivad]

Yeah Cerny's kicking isn't as good as Robbo's, but he's much more likely to throw it or play it to the defense, which offsets this I think, a little.

The defence and midfeild have improved alot of late and are now giving more options for the short ball. Before they just stood around and not given the keeper an option, so it did get hit long.

 

[DC_Boy]

I always thought Robbo's kicking was one of the best parts of his games - and created quite a few goals for us

 

[steadster]

Cerny - he makes a mistake every 10 games, robbo makes one every 2 so no go for Robbo

 

[Krafty]

Explain what's so good about him....compared to other no 1's

I'm not comparing him to other keepers, I'm comparing him to Cerny. On the same form Robinson is a better shot stopper, he is a better communicator, his kicking is better in that its rarely puts us in immediate danger with its length, but can be sprayed a bit.

I think Cerny has slightly better than handling from crosses (only just) but both are poor when put under pressure.

 

[lennon4england]

Did anyone else notice Cerny's lame attempt at a punch against Slavia?
It doesnt seem to have been picked up on because luckily it fell to one of our players, but if it had been Robbo, he would have been slated.
I feel that Cerny has been making a lot more errors than Robbo did, only he has been getting away with it so no one picks up on it. He often fumbles an easy catch or misplaces a simple kick.
Got to be Robbo for me.

 

[Michey]

I feel that Cerny has been making a lot more errors than Robbo did

C'mon, get real...please!

 

[chinaman]

I'd play Robbo in the 2nd leg and then decide on who to play for the final afterwards. If Robbo can get through that game fine and impresses during training then he will probably get the nod.

That's exactly my point that I said in another thread.

 

[johnmc]

There is one point I should like to make. If a player is first choice then he seems to be allowed a lot more mistakes before he is finally dropped. As a back up player you do not seem to be allowed so much time. As second choice you have to play practacly error free until such time its is deemed that you have become first choice. Robbo was first choice, and had a horrendous time before finally being dropped. Cerny has come in and done well. But now errors are starting to happen. Only two resulted in goals, so far, but I do not think he will be giving anywhere near the same time as Robinson. In my eyes Cerny is still the back up keeper. Saying that it would seem unfair to drop Cerny just yet, but if he plays poorly next game then I think Robinson will be back in. I will leave this dilemma for Ramos to sort out. :shrug:

 

[Mr-T]

Its a tough call.

I'd bring back Robbo for Prague next Thursday, see how he gets on, and then let Ramos decide upon his performance.

Those 3 words sum it up really. Ramos is the man, only he is qualfied to call this one!

 

[mike_l]

Definitely gotta be Cerny, his left foot brings some all im[SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE]ortant balance to the side.

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[theburtonshelf]

he also he cant kick for shit!!

thats the key point, it doesnt appear that cerny is any any less error prone, he isnt a better keeper and his kicking is far far worse. so providing robbo could get through the prague game id play him. nothing against cerny hes done well but id give robbo another chance.

 

[Yid-ol]

Definitely gotta be Cerny, his left foot brings some all im[SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE]ortant balance to the side.

For those sa[SIZE=-1]ying we should [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]pl[/SIZE]ay Robbo in the Uefa, what if he has nothing to do all night, which is quite [SIZE=-1]possible. Then nothing is[/SIZE] learned regarding his form leaving an even tougher choice for the Final as dro[SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE]ing Robbo again would risk an even bigger stro[SIZE=-1]p from him [/SIZE]a[SIZE=-1]nd Cerny h[/SIZE]a[SIZE=-1]s not h[/SIZE]a[SIZE=-1]d ch[/SIZE]a[SIZE=-1]nce to redeem himself [/SIZE]and regain some confidence.

IMO it is too close to the final to start cho[SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE]ing and changing the kee[SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE]er, neither would feel totally confident were it to ha[SIZE=-1]p[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]pen.[/SIZE]

i think we might chop and change with players outfield, King might come back, and we might rest one or two players for the second leg, so dont see a problem with chopping and changing with Keepers, if he is good enough Cerny would be able to come back in and perform, and no matter how little a keeper has to do, if he does the little things right when he is called upon then he should still get a start (as Cerny couldnt even get that right last game)

 

[mike_l]

i think we might chop and change with players outfield, King might come back, and we might rest one or two players for the second leg, so dont see a problem with chopping and changing with Keepers, if he is good enough Cerny would be able to come back in and perform, and no matter how little a keeper has to do, if he does the little things right when he is called upon then he should still get a start (as Cerny couldnt even get that right last game)

Keepers don't work like that, if Cerny's last meaningful contribution prior to the final was that mistake, it would be playing on his mind, he needs a game to get it out of his system and a major final is not the ideal game for that.

Also, you reckon that if Robbo comes in and has nothing to do all game it would prove he is back in form? Thats ridiculous, he needs to play a blinder, especially after a long spell on the bench, to prove to himself and everyone else that he is in top form. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable with him in goal unless I had seen him play a couple of games on the bounce making good saves, collecting crosses comfortably and displaying some good handling. You must have forgotten how nerve wracking it was facing an opposition corner during his last run of games, he couldn't catch a cold at that point.

 

[Yid-ol]

Keepers don't work like that, if Cerny's last meaningful contribution prior to the final was that mistake, it would be playing on his mind, he needs a game to get it out of his system and a major final is not the ideal game for that.

Also, you reckon that if Robbo comes in and has nothing to do all game it would prove he is back in form? Thats ridiculous, he needs to play a blinder, especially after a long spell on the bench, to prove to himself and everyone else that he is in top form. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable with him in goal unless I had seen him play a couple of games on the bounce making good saves, collecting crosses comfortably and displaying some good handling. You must have forgotten how nerve wracking it was facing an opposition corner during his last run of games, he couldn't catch a cold at that point.

so they we should give Robbo agame to remove the mistake of the reading game?

and i didnt say he would be back on form, but doing the little things correct, something Cerny didnt do in the last game, or afw others to be fair

 

[mike_l]

so they we should give Robbo agame to remove the mistake of the reading game?

and i didnt say he would be back on form, but doing the little things correct, something Cerny didnt do in the last game, or afw others to be fair

The difference being that, as many have pointed out already, Cerny has made one, debatably two, genuine mistakes, whereas Robbo was making 2 or 3 per game consistently.

The game before the final would be a stupid time to start doubting your keeper, I don't think either would gain anything from Robbo playing against Slavia. Your comment on not expecting Robbo to be on form is crazy, you would really risk an out of form Robbo in the final? We should all know by now that he is more than capable of costing us games with very basic errors, and that even if he does play a blinder, like the FA Cup game away at City, his form still does not pick up.

Dropping Cerny for the Slavia game would only serve to undermine his position and be detrimental to his confidence.