Roberto Soldado: part 2

[Lilbaz]

He say that the clubs are not talking, but he just wrote me again now;

it could be development inside Tottenham. Nothing has reached valencia but the demand are clear. But there's not much left to reach agreement.

Thanks ken.

 

[CrazyKen]

Or maybe we haven`t been back in since Baldini left. We communicated our offer, they rejected it.

See my last post to Lilbaz

 

[absolute bobbins]

Seriously if we miss out on Soldado, levy can just leave in my opinion. Whats the point. We need a striker and he continually balks at the asked price. They ask 8m for Villa, he offers 6. They ask 25m for benteke, he offers 20. They want 30m euros we offer 26. The prices are arbitrary. If valencia set a price of 20m hed have offered 16 and we'd be hearing stories of not being held to ransom. But if he's willing to offer 26m for a 28 year old why not offer 10m for 30 year old. His obsession with getting a seeming bargain is turning a club of glory glory into miser miser. I hate the way were becoming percieved as awkward to deal with and mean.

I really like the guy but just get it done or leave.

To be replaced by whom?

 

[Indisguise]

He say that the clubs are not talking, but he just wrote me again now;

it could be development inside Tottenham. Nothing has reached valencia but the demand are clear. But there's not much left to reach agreement.

It's too quiet though isn't it? I just think we've insisted on a bit more confidentiality. That would explain why we're getting more positive rumblings from our side, while they're clamping down.

 

[CrazyKen]

It's too quiet though isn't it? I just think we've insisted on a bit more confidentiality. That would explatin why we're getting more positive rumblings from our side, while they're clamping down.

Its too quiet! But i belive our ITK's..and still positive. I guess they are just playing hardball and that will backfire..

 

[poc]

Years of frustration at Levy tactics seemingly coming out in posts on this thread - IMHO fuck Valencia and their public ultimatums, we are the customer and this is a negotiation if what we read is true we have made a more than fair offer from the start with none of the normal fucking about. If we have the money to pay it outright fine but I certainly wont be banging a Levy out drum if we dont pay 30m Euros for a 28 year old. The world has gone fucking mad!

 

[Spurz]

There is no 3rd aug deadline. Soldado has a release clause. Levy can hit it anytime he wants and they will still have to let him go. In fact if they leave it too late, they may end up without a replacement striker.

 

[cyclonus]

haha when has Levy hurried about anything!

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

There is no 3rd aug deadline. Soldado has a release clause. Levy can hit it anytime he wants and they will still have to let him go. In fact if they leave it too late, they may end up without a replacement striker.

I believe his release clause goes up after August 3rd actually.

 

[Riandor]

I'm a Levy supporter, but eventually he simply has to pay the cash.

Look at it this way.

You're hungry and need a meal. You think you might just pop in for a McDonald's but they've closed for renovations. Failing that, you go to the Japanese place next door, but they're out of your favourite sushi. It's getting past 9 now, and you're hungry after not eating a big lunch. You wonder down to the local pub, but the kitchen's already closed. In a fit of desperation, you've decided to rummage through a supermarket industrial bin. Nothing there either. Finally, you see the steakhouse and are left with no choice but to get your meal in there.You're starving, they're ready to take your order, but you'd rather pay £20 for the filet than the £23.50 on the menu because it's the end of the day. The steakhouse is very happy to sell the filet to anyone who comes in after you, or will simply let the staff have it later. You walk out, starving, and spend all night miserable.

Beggars can't really be choosers. If you're willing to pay €26m, just front up the €4m needed to get what you want. They don't need to sell him, and the deadline is approaching.

But we are not beggars and we are not starving.
This is business, look up Maslow's hierarchy of needs as just one example of how wrong your analogy is.
Would we all like to have a better class of striker at our club? YES... but that doesn't mean we are willing to hand over all our cash, we are NOT desperate... the fans are desperate yes, because we are an impatient bunch, but that is not the same thing.

We all let our emotions spill onto these pages, it's easy to do, even easier as it is the internet... but try and put yourselves in the shoes of someone looking after multi-million pound assets. I work on multi-million pound projects with people who manage other people and it is cut-throat, no one wants to spend a penny, cent, dime more than they have to, that is how business works.

Forget City and Chelsea, they do not represent reality... do not let their practices distort how things should work for any NORMAL club.

 

[spurs-r-us]

But we are not beggars and we are not starving.
This is business, look up Maslow's hierarchy of needs as just one example of how wrong your analogy is.
Would we all like to have a better class of striker at our club? YES... but that doesn't mean we are willing to hand over all our cash, we are NOT desperate... the fans are desperate yes, because we are an impatient bunch, but that is not the same thing.

We all let our emotions spill onto these pages, it's easy to do, even easier as it is the internet... but try and put yourselves in the shoes of someone looking after multi-million pound assets. I work on multi-million pound projects with people who manage other people and it is cut-throat, no one wants to spend a penny, cent, dime more than they have to, that is how business works.

Forget City and Chelsea, they do not represent reality... do not let their practices distort how things should work for any NORMAL club.

All of our money? We're talking about paying upwards of £10m for James McCarthy a few threads down. If €4m is really the difference between Soldado and no Soldado, then why not pay it. He is an investment; the key to a bona fide challenge at the top of the Premier League. What happens when you finish in the Top 4? You get bucket loads of exposure and cash. Soldado will help us get that.

 

[Graysonti]

Sign you bastid, sign I tell thee

 

[Scutch]

There is no 3rd aug deadline. Soldado has a release clause. Levy can hit it anytime he wants and they will still have to let him go. In fact if they leave it too late, they may end up without a replacement striker.

The release clause only applies to clubs in Spain after that deadline, IIRC.

 

[Lilbaz]

The release clause only applies to clubs in Spain after that deadline, IIRC.

Gets confusing as there is a tax loophole involved if you meet the buyout clause.

 

[jambreck]

Seriously if we miss out on Soldado, levy can just leave in my opinion. Whats the point. We need a striker and he continually balks at the asked price. They ask 8m for Villa, he offers 6. They ask 25m for benteke, he offers 20. They want 30m euros we offer 26. The prices are arbitrary. If valencia set a price of 20m hed have offered 16 and we'd be hearing stories of not being held to ransom. But if he's willing to offer 26m for a 28 year old why not offer 10m for 30 year old. His obsession with getting a seeming bargain is turning a club of glory glory into miser miser. I hate the way were becoming percieved as awkward to deal with and mean.

I really like the guy but just get it done or leave.

Err......correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Barca eventually sell Villa for something like £4 million?

So even if Levy did offer £6 million (and I have no idea how you would actually know that), he would still have offered a sum that was in excess of what Barca were clearly willing to accept.

So probably not the best example to support your argument.

As to the rest, do you actually know how much the clubs were asking for their players or what Spurs offered? My guess is that you don't.

 

[wishkah]

i tried to catch up with this thread and relax during my coffee break.

Now i'm off to get another coffee to counter the headache this thread has given me.

drained!

 

[Lilbaz]

Err......correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Barca eventually sell Villa for something like £4 million?

So even if Levy did offer £6 million (and I have no idea how you would actually know that), he would still have offered a sum that was in excess of what Barca were clearly willing to accept.

So probably not the best example to support your argument.

As to the rest, do you actually know how much the clubs were asking for their players or what Spurs offered? My guess is that you don't.

Bringing reality into an argument will only cause trouble.

 

[panoma]

My guess is that the valencia president want to show the world how big a dick he got.

Problem for him is the valencia board wanna sell, soldado himself wanna move and lets be honest our offer is very good for a 28 yo.

Instead this all make him look like a clown. How he leak info to the media, how he goes against the board etch and levy wont change an already more than fair offer, and he shouldnt imo.

This salvo guy is playing a dangerous game when they have the threat off bankruptcy hanging over them.

 

[luptic]

you wont hear anything on this deal today until after seven, and probably not for a few days after the crash yesterday.

 

[nightgoat]

Err......correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Barca eventually sell Villa for something like £4 million?

So even if Levy did offer £6 million (and I have no idea how you would actually know that), he would still have offered a sum that was in excess of what Barca were clearly willing to accept.

So probably not the best example to support your argument.

As to the rest, do you actually know how much the clubs were asking for their players or what Spurs offered? My guess is that you don't.

£1.4m up front, and if Villa only stays at Atletico for one season, that's all they'll pay.