Roy Keane
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Roy Keane is a player I greatly respected but that went all out of the window with his antics at the World Cup he is lucky McCarthy did not chin him . Also the Irish team did great at that World Cup and with him in the team who knows what they could have achieved .
If I was Irish there would be no forgiving his antics not so much what he said but his attempt to spoil the team spirit and I am glad to say in that attempt he failed dismally as the Irish team spirit was never bowed .
If I was Irish there would be no forgiving his antics not so much what he said but his attempt to spoil the team spirit and I am glad to say in that attempt he failed dismally as the Irish team spirit was never bowed .
taidgh
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I don't believe for a minute that it was a calculated attempt to spoil team spirit.
He'd had enough of it all. Purely focused on himself - as per usual.
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You haven’t seen the first post of this thread?
I think he's a vile human being. He gets away with it because of his success but he's a nasty piece of work. Acts like a hard man but there's very little evidence he can back that up. Most of the Irish players he played with despised him and certainly weren't intimidated by him rather they looked at him as a poseur who has to try to maintain his image as a hard man.
He's a plastic tough guy if ever i saw one. Razor or Graham Roberts would have snapped him half and taken none of his bullshit.
He's a plastic tough guy if ever i saw one. Razor or Graham Roberts would have snapped him half and taken none of his bullshit.
taidgh
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Not sure Alfie Haaland would agree.
Any evidence that most Irish players despised him? For sure most knew to not get on his bad side, but I've only heard a few say they didn't like him.
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Being hard in a footballing context and intentionally going out to injure someone on a football field are different things. Doing the latter is absolutely despicable and is unforgivable, it's essentially assault and frankly pathetic. Some with leaving Ireland, selfish and pathetic that makes him look small.
It's the kind of attitude of one of these guys who thinks he's the real deal, when all of his friends are laughing behind his back on how ridiculous he is. He went out to hurt someone because his soft little bruised ego couldn't handle a little bit of criticism, even if it was misplaced. Massive hypocrite, in more ways than one.
I can see why he can see why as a player that attitude might be useful, particularly from a position of respect for what he was as a player, but that's the thing. He had the talent so it works. As a manager, his destructive and what I see as vulnerabilities became very destructive.
When we think about hard players at Spurs, many think of Mackay. Someone who stood up to vile players going out to hurt people. Famously, grabbing Bremner and making it clear he wouldn't deal with that kind of malicious shit, and he also became a great manager too.
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King of Otters
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You think what he did to Haaland makes him a 'hard man'?
I like Keane, but what he did to Haaland is pretty much the most cowardly thing i've ever seen on a football pitch, Matt Hancock challenging for a header notwithstanding.
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not terminolgy I'm familiar with - wasn't he worried about it getting knocked off?
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All true, but Haaland did (allegedly) mock him when he suffered a serious injury. Doesn't excuse the tackle, but, if this was a court case, would definitely be part of a mitigation plea. The world cup thing is also multi-faceted and similarly founded on a legacy issue.
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He didn't mock him, he just accused him of play acting. He said 'stop faking it'. He was wrong, but it wasn't mocking. Keane obviously took it as such.
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So you don't like him?
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But he was lying on the the ground having just ruptured his acl or ligaments. Can't remember which. Both are bad enough. Apparently, Haaland told him to get up, you're not hurt, etc. Obv, I wasn't there at the time. If I had been, would deffo have that down as "mocking" him. I believe the kids now know this as "mugging one off". As in, "I say old chap, you really are a total cad and bounder for mugging that fellow off whilst he was clearly in some form of association football injury related distress."
