Serge Aurier leaves stadium at half-time after furious Jose Mourinho bust-up

[Real_madyidd]

Errrr... OK. The thing is, the back line are meant to work as a unit and in this case they all were apart from Ben Davies. They do talk to each other you know.

True. But the fact is his man was not offside and he wasn't with him.

I am sure everyone that fucked up was told. The news is the strop.

 

[thebenjamin]

True. But the fact is his man was not offside and he wasn't with him.

I am sure everyone that fucked up was told. The news is the strop.

Mane wasn't Aurier"s man.

 

[cider spurs]

There were a catalogue of errors. Apart from a few, and parts in the first half, the whole performance was shambolic at best.

Time for this team to stop the finger pointing and concentrate on being a cohesive unit willing to give their all to achieve success.

Own their mistakes, learn from them, but mostly, get behind one another and work feckin hard to rectify them.

Something every single one of them need to do.

 

[Black]

Rodon was at fault for the goal, he shouldn't have pushed Miller and dier and loris should have delt with the cross and tbh dier should have hoofed it.

Singling out individuals is pointless

If our manager can why can't we?

 

[Metalhead]

Whatever happened in the dressing room was significant and it wouldn't surprise me if tempers were raised and it may have nearly come to blows although those reports of blows are not confirmed, the reason I say this is because when they came out for the second half many of the Spurs players looked in complete disarray in the first couple of minutes of as if their minds and heads were still elsewhere.
Yes it's often the case that we lose concentration, but that was really much more noticeable, where we nearly conceded two almost from the kick off and Lloris looked decidedly shaky and all over the place which does give credence to the fact that he might also have been at the centre of what went on in there at half time.

It's funny because it doesn't actually state that Aurier was singled out for criticism - I guess that one can infer that he either got the biggest proportion of the bollocking or didn't consider himself at fault at all so got into a huff.

 

[Metalhead]

If our manager can why can't we?

Having been on Spurs forums for the last 20 years, I can safely say that Spurs fans are quite capable of singling players out whoever the manager is. Always have, always will.

 

[Shadydan]

If our manager can why can't we?

Erm it doesn't matter who the manager is Spurs fans do it regardless.

 

[1882andallthat]

It's funny because it doesn't actually state that Aurier was singled out for criticism - I guess that one can infer that he either got the biggest proportion of the bollocking or didn't consider himself at fault at all so got into a huff.

Whatever happened there must have been quite a few of the players caught up in heated exchanges with one another with a lot of blame and finger pointing going on as they arrived in the dressing room, literally a minute or so after they conceded the first goal, what else explains why they were in so much disarray at the start of the second half and why it looked like they hadn't put all those arguments behind them. Combine that with Aurier storming out of the ground
and Kane having to be taken off and it would have been very eventful in the dressing room with all that going on.
What was called for was leadership as soon as they arrived in that dressing room, someone to calm down the heated atmosphere so as to get the group refocused after two big blows of losing the goal immediately before HT and losing Kane.

JM should have been getting them to refocus and get their heads together, instead what happened is all hell broke loose and the flames of blame name and shame were simply fanned and it made a bad situation even worse hence why we had our arses well and truly torn a new one in the first 10-15 mins of that second half, the team hadn't left the shit that flew in the dressing room behind, and Liverpool who themselves were severely disrupted in defence were still able to take full advantage of it.

 

[Metalhead]

Whatever happened there must have been quite a few of the players caught up in heated exchanges with one another with a lot of blame and finger pointing going on as they arrived in the dressing room, literally a minute or so after they conceded the first goal, what else explains why they were in so much disarray at the start of the second half and why it looked like they hadn't put all those arguments behind them. Combine that with Aurier storming out of the ground
and Kane having to be taken off and it would have been very eventful in the dressing room with all that going on.
What was called for was leadership as soon as they arrived in that dressing room, someone to calm down the heated atmosphere so as to get the group refocused after two big blows of losing the goal immediately before HT and losing Kane.

JM should have been getting them to refocus and get their heads together, instead what happened is all hell broke loose and the flames of blame name and shame were simply fanned and it made a bad situation even worse hence why we had our arses well and truly torn a new one in the first 10-15 mins of that second half, the team hadn't left the shit that flew in the dressing room behind, and Liverpool who themselves were severely disrupted in defence were still able to take full advantage of it.

Yeah, half time is definitely not the time for a full on debrief/forensic analysis. It should be, like you say, a focus on the second half and then by all means after the game a proper account of what happened. Problem is that without exactly knowing what happened, we can only speculate.

 

[chinaman]

Buts that Jose for you. He is just a bully who gets away with it as ‘strength’. In fact he is weak and cowardly in just about all he does including setting up a team. He is the untouchable one and everyone else around him just makes so many mistakes. He’s too good for us, too good for the EPL, too good for everyone.

Good for Serge to walk out on him

The poison is coming out quick. It's been only 15 months as usually it starts after 24.

 

[whitesocks]

Whatever happened there must have been quite a few of the players caught up in heated exchanges with one another with a lot of blame and finger pointing going on as they arrived in the dressing room, literally a minute or so after they conceded the first goal, what else explains why they were in so much disarray at the start of the second half and why it looked like they hadn't put all those arguments behind them. Combine that with Aurier storming out of the ground
and Kane having to be taken off and it would have been very eventful in the dressing room with all that going on.
What was called for was leadership as soon as they arrived in that dressing room, someone to calm down the heated atmosphere so as to get the group refocused after two big blows of losing the goal immediately before HT and losing Kane.

JM should have been getting them to refocus and get their heads together, instead what happened is all hell broke loose and the flames of blame name and shame were simply fanned and it made a bad situation even worse hence why we had our arses well and truly torn a new one in the first 10-15 mins of that second half, the team hadn't left the shit that flew in the dressing room behind, and Liverpool who themselves were severely disrupted in defence were still able to take full advantage of it.

JM is there for the technical side of the game. And for me leadership should come from the captain. And that raises an interesting point. Cos I think we have been lacking leadership for a while.

Ceremonially, Lloris deserves to be captain - his WC medal trumps all.
But the functional captain needs to be an outfield player. He needs to be urging and setting the example. How can the GK demand more when his role is totally different?
The captain needs to be amongst the first on the teamsheet, so that limits it to a few. But realistically it is between Kane and Hojbjerg.

Kane sets a great example for sure, and would demand the honour of the captaincy for his goal scoring and assists. He is a club legend and captain of his country. But he leaves me cold. I mean that in a nice way - he is calculating and intelligent. But lacks emotion. Plus he is frail and every challenge that he always gets the worst of, makes you wonder if he is getting up again. I don't think we can have a captain continually being squashed in the mud. Plus his interviews are very dull and from what we saw on the amazon documentary, he doesn't have much to say.

Anyone who saw the post match interview with Hojbjerg could not fail to be impressed. He is fully engaged and says the right things. And sounds like he believes what he is saying and not afraid to point out our faults.
Perhaps he should have been the one giving the half time talk. He is genuinely inspiring.

On the pitch the guy is natural leader. He was the one giving payback for Liverpool's cynical challenges. And he scored the goal that gave us a chance, but realistically it could have flown anywhere. He is no goal scorer or passer. But he is committed.

The great tottenham players were often not the captains - ie greaves and hoddle. They were players like Mabbutt Roberts and Perryman. Reliable and commanded respect.

Something has to change and I'd make Hojbjerg outfield captain right now.

 

[UbeAstard]

If he doesn't play his cards right Serge will end up like Danny Rose. The thing is, this season I prefer Serge over Matt. But if the ego doesn't come into check, then we all know how it ends.

I dont see it that way, it seems the way Jose goes about things at times could end up with a number of players not playing for him as happened at Chelsea.

 

[UbeAstard]

Mane wasn't Aurier"s man.

Your 'man' is the one in your vicinity about to cause danger. Who was Aurier's man on that occasion then?

 

[JC-Rule]

I dont see it that way, it seems the way Jose goes about things at times could end up with a number of players not playing for him as happened at Chelsea.

If it's true that Serge left the stadium at 1/2 time, by right he should not play for us again, unless he apologises to the team and the coaching staff.

I like him as a player, but the order has to be maintained.

Townsend tried it with Poch's staff, never played again