Match Threads Southampton vs Spurs - Match Thread - Day 2

[Who’s our next manager?]

That was Sonny's first Premier League hat trick? Huh, I just kind of assumed he already had several.

I know a hatrick is 3, why,isn’t there a term for 4?

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Watching the bt sports analysis, how long has hoddles hair been in that current state? Not seen him for ages as I don’t usually get the chance to watch the full games much these days

If we’d have kicked off at 4pm he’d have had time to tart himself up a bit

 

[Hoddlegenius]

If All or Nothing is anything to go by I bet it included “f*****g hell”

& pa pa pa pa pa, pi pi pi pi pa!

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Credit where is due, it was a Mourinho masterclass on the second half today. Saw what was needed and bring on Lo Celso, which provided the factor needed for the goal fest. Problem still is our defense, that was very shaking today, mostly Dier, but Sanchez had his share of braindead moments. Really, Dier is a shocking defender, Toby can't be benched for him. Winks again did nothing for us, i'm really hoping the midfield of PEH, GLC and Ndombele become a thing. If we bring Ruben Dias and another attack minded midfielder, we're becoming a really strong team the hype would be massive. COYS!

Rúben Dias definitely.
Also another central midfielder eg Brozovic, Carvalho or Sangare. Winks will stay as homegrown so Sissoko would have to go.
Vinícius as a additional,striker.
Fund these by selling Foyth,Aurier, Sissoko,Dele and one of Moura or Lamela.Winks and Dier can lookout as well.
Get the squad right once and for all.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

I know a hatrick is 3, why,isn’t there a term for 4?

I've heard it be referred to as a double brace, which is the term for 2, but it's not really got the vibe

 

[TPdYID]

Rúben Dias definitely.
Also another central midfielder eg Brozovic, Carvalho or Sangare. Winks will stay as homegrown so Sissoko would have to go.
Vinícius as a additional,striker.
Fund these by selling Foyth,Aurier, Sissoko,Dele and one of Moura or Lamela.Winks and Dier can lookout as well.
Get the squad right once and for all.

Agree with your sentiments.

A quality CB (Dias) a capable holding CDM to back up Hojberg and an additional ST (Edouard? Vinicus? Daka?) would be cream your pants excitable. Then a matter of shifting some dead-wood / squad players.

Sell:
Foyth (12-15m)
Aurier (14-17m)
Sissoko (15-18m)
Dele (25-30m)
Lamela (9-11m)
CCV (3-5m)

Loan:
Sessegnon (3-5m)
Clarke (1-2m)

Listen to sensible offers:
Lucas
Toby
Gazzaniga

 

[Pistols At Dawn]

Dier really was woeful that first half. I mean, really really bad.

 

[eViL]

I’m amazed that some are questioning taking off Ndombele and keeping Winks on. Winks has limitations but you cannot fault the discipline he showed in the second half.

Nah I'm sorry I've massively defended Winks over the years but he was shit today. Saints midfielders like Romeu being made to look like Cristiano Ronaldo drifting past him with the ball, passing every potential transition back to the CBs, barely running with the ball into the space in front of him, not coming and supporting his fullback when they have the ball to create passing options.

Not moving enough doesn't translate into discipline. Needs a fucking ROCKET because he has the ability to eliminate all of the above. Another one ruined by the international team.

 

[TPdYID]

Nah I'm sorry I've massively defended Winks over the years but he was shit today. Saints midfielders like Romeu being made to look like Cristiano Ronaldo drifting past him with the ball, passing every potential transition back to the CBs, barely running with the ball into the space in front of him, not coming and supporting his fullback when they have the ball to create passing options.

Not moving enough doesn't translate into discipline. Needs a fucking ROCKET because he has the ability to eliminate all of the above. Another one ruined by the international team.

Interesting opinion? Curios to know why you believe the international team has "ruined him"?

 

[eViL]

Dier really was woeful that first half. I mean, really really bad.

Interesting opinion? Curios to know why you believe the international team has "ruined him"?

Because they play non-penetrative possession football, which is great in the groups against poor opposition but ultimately where we come unstuck against better sides.

No aggression, no directness to the play, just languid, sterile football. Look at Dier when he first joined, Dele when he first joined, Winks when he first got in the side. All aggressive, direct. Now?

 

[cabinfever]

Must be rare to get four assists and four goals by the same two players

it’s the first time it’s happened!!

 

[TPdYID]

Because they play non-penetrative possession football, which is great in the groups against poor opposition but ultimately where we come unstuck against better sides.

No aggression, no directness to the play, just languid, sterile football. Look at Dier when he first joined, Dele when he first joined, Winks when he first got in the side. All aggressive, direct. Now?

And you’d have thought in the group stages against poorer opposition we’d be more inclined to “go for the throat” in terms of penetration / attack mode.

 

[sausage]

I know a hatrick is 3, why,isn’t there a term for 4?

I'm sure the cricket folk on here might know, but it is a cricket term and came from a player taking 3 wickets with 3 deliveries in a row. They bought him a hat as a reward. I guess no one got 4 in a row or it wasn't as much folklore

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Agree with your sentiments.

A quality CB (Dias) a capable holding CDM to back up Hojberg and an additional ST (Edouard? Vinicus? Daka?) would be cream your pants excitable. Then a matter of shifting some dead-wood / squad players.

Sell:
Foyth (12-15m)
Aurier (14-17m)
Sissoko (15-18m)
Dele (25-30m)
Lamela (9-11m)
CCV (3-5m)

I think Dele and Lamela would be worth ,more esp Dele and Sissoko a bit less.
Personally I’d sell Dier as well and bring in both the Korean guy and Reuben Dias.

Loan:
Sessegnon (3-5m)
Clarke (1-2m)

Listen to sensible offers:
Lucas
Toby
Gazzaniga

 

[TPdYID]

Unlikely though with him signing that new contract and starting every game since post lock down.

Similar to Toby, had it not been for the new deal he signed earlier in the year i‘m sure the club wouldn’t be that upset if he went. Problem is he’s 31 and on huge wages. No one else would get near what he gets with us.

 

[panoma]

If Southampton go down it's due to their coach and how naive he is.

Imagine setting up like that and changing nothing, twice. They have to good players to go down, but they just might if they keep going on like that.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Agree with your sentiments.

A quality CB (Dias) a capable holding CDM to back up Hojberg and an additional ST (Edouard? Vinicus? Daka?) would be cream your pants excitable. Then a matter of shifting some dead-wood / squad players.

Sell:
Foyth (12-15m)
Aurier (14-17m)
Sissoko (15-18m)
Dele (25-30m)
Lamela (9-11m)
CCV (3-5m)

Loan:
Sessegnon (3-5m)
Clarke (1-2m)

Listen to sensible offers:
Lucas
Toby
Gazzaniga

Sell Dele Alli for 25-30M ???

Lets not panic eh! ?

 

[eViL]

And you’d have thought in the group stages against poorer opposition we’d be more inclined to “go for the throat” in terms of penetration / attack mode.

I think a lot of it is the media pressure to be honest. Every tiny mistake highlighted; it's getting tougher for players to express themselves now. It relevant to modern football in general but the England team seem to be under a different type of Microscope these days.

 

[PCozzie]

Agree with your sentiments.

A quality CB (Dias) a capable holding CDM to back up Hojberg and an additional ST (Edouard? Vinicus? Daka?) would be cream your pants excitable. Then a matter of shifting some dead-wood / squad players.

Sell:
Foyth (12-15m)
Aurier (14-17m)
Sissoko (15-18m)
Dele (25-30m)
Lamela (9-11m)
CCV (3-5m)

Loan:
Sessegnon (3-5m)
Clarke (1-2m)

Listen to sensible offers:
Lucas
Toby
Gazzaniga

Personally, I'm keeping Lamela. I like his attitude and ability. The rest? Yep.

 

[slartibartfast]

Missed the game as was at work. Just watched it. Bet the first half was fun in here lol.