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This would be a Lamela level signing, which I thought wouldn't happen. But I definitely do not think this will happen, he wants to stay at Milan for his whole career.

If we did get him though, bloody hell...
 

Snarfalicious

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The thing we have over a team like City and Chelsea, should we be in a good position come January, is that we have a side that can be cracked into on the left much easier than the aforementioned two. All SES would have to do is look at what's happening to Jovetic. And, Chelsea wouldn't add El Shaarawy when they just purchased Willian. They are stupid with their transfers and spend money freely, but they wouldn't go that far.
 

indianspurs

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The thing we have over a team like City and Chelsea, should we be in a good position come January, is that we have a side that can be cracked into on the left much easier than the aforementioned two. All SES would have to do is look at what's happening to Jovetic. And, Chelsea wouldn't add El Shaarawy when they just purchased Willian. They are stupid with their transfers and spend money freely, but they wouldn't go that far.
The thing we have over a team like City and Chelsea, should we be in a good position come January, is that we have a side that can be cracked into on the left much easier than the aforementioned two. All SES would have to do is look at what's happening to Jovetic. And, Chelsea wouldn't add El Shaarawy when they just purchased Willian. They are stupid with their transfers and spend money freely, but they wouldn't go that far.
trust me with their transfer history,they can n will go that far.Schurlle underperforming so far only makes their case stronger(I know its too early but they can afford it) unlike those big spending teams I believe we can give him game as a back up strikers or wingers when required
 

YiddoInPoland

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I was thinking that. Serie A seems to suit a nutter, just look how Mario Balotelli settled back into it

Apart from his hair i don't think he is one, just think he does't have the mentality of a top player, i think that was one of the reasons he got limited time at the confeds cup.

As an Italian, i hope i am wrong as we need some descent youngsters!
 

voxy28

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He scored 16 goals in Serie A last year playing on the left wing primarily. El Shaarawy, Eriksen and Lamela would be the best, young (All three are 21) trio in the EPL and quite possibly Europe.

This is the combo I used for Fifa 13.... with Soldado up front. wahahaha:)
 

Syn_13

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why is giaccherini picked over him for italy?

Prandelli is obsessed with him, I think it's because he's a hard worker. El Sharaawy plays a different position to Giaccherini and in Prandelli's current set-up (4-2-3-1, which I can't stand) he has no room for the Stephan. Balotelli's the top dog up front right now and he's not using wingers or wide forwards. He plays 2 attacking mids behind Balotelli, usually Marchisio and Giaccherini, with the latter being the work horse chasing down the balls for Balotelli.

I'd much prefer us to switch back to a 3-5-2 system and use El Sharaawy with Balotelli, or at least someone else like Rossi, Osvaldo or Insigne sitting just behind Mario. It's not that I dislike Giaccherini, he's a good player, it's just that he's nothing more than a squad/utility player for me.
 

rocklink

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Apart from his hair i don't think he is one, just think he does't have the mentality of a top player, i think that was one of the reasons he got limited time at the confeds cup.

As an Italian, i hope i am wrong as we need some descent youngsters!

He was injured during confeds cup
 

rocklink

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Italy is playing with their typical 4312 or 4321 which formation only played by italy i think in the world and in this formation there's no room for wide forwards or speedy wingers....
 

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Essentially, giaccherini is the Italian James Milner and no one is sure why he plays ahead of players who have twice the ability of him.
 

rocklink

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he wasn't, he just wasn't picked. he came on as a sub for 20 mins against brazil and played the game against uruguay.

As far as i know he was not fully fit to start or play 90 minutes game in that competition... I could be wrong but that's the general conviction during the tourney !!
 

balalasaurus

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"Thing about El Shaarawy though he dropped off a bit last year but that was in part due to Mario who's critical to how Milan play. His influence last season reduced the role of El Shaarawy. That's the type of forward Allegri prefers and he changing his tactics more to suit that type of player. He wants to play a 4-3-1-2 and for that player behind the strikers he'd rather have Robinho, which to be fair does make sense. People hammer Robinho on the regular but he does operate very well in that role, which will probably be shared by Kaka now."

And for the wing play specially the way AVB setup our team , there's not many better and young LWF is available than el shaarawy...... Are you guys just imagining how deadly it would be for defender if we have lamela on the right and SES on the left cutting inside , eriksen playing as the team's brain and soldado as striker....And to be honest i don't think el shaarawy to spurs will ever happen .. When he will be available city, chelsea , psg will open their bank account to get him at any cost !!!
This. I would have to disagree with you there. If there's one thing we've shown this summer its the intent to achieve something that most people would have thought is beyond our reach. That in itself is a massive factor for any potential signing to consider. Added to the fact that we still have quite a bit of money in the bank, I think that such a deal while improbable still remains possible. As for the competition, the purchase of El Shaarawy would not represent the acquisition of anything better than they already have. This would obviously impact the amount of playing time he would get and seeing as his 'desire' to leave is based precisely on that fact, coming to WHL would probably be good for him (a fact I'm hoping he'd consider). If this thing does end up happening (which fingers crossed it does - hopefully by Jan we'll have made some serious progress that will be recognized by potential signings) I have a feeling we may end up seeing the last of Lennon (it'll have to happen some time I guess).
 

balalasaurus

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This would be a Lamela level signing, which I thought wouldn't happen. But I definitely do not think this will happen, he wants to stay at Milan for his whole career.

If we did get him though, bloody hell...
I'm sorry but where do you find the basis for this conclusion? If you're going to say he said it himself might I remind you of a certain player who at the beginning of the summer stated his 'desire to see out the project at WHL', and by the end was the subject of the highest ever bid for footballer in history. The balance of football is changing. Teams like Milan are no longer the powerhouses they once were as they make way for the Juventuses, Napolis and Fiorentinas of the league the same way that the Tottenham of the next few years is nowhere near the Tottenham of 10 years past. You cannot expect a player with a desire to achieve big things commit himself to a future that for all intents and purposes is highly uncertain.
 

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I'm sorry but where do you find the basis for this conclusion? If you're going to say he said it himself might I remind you of a certain player who at the beginning of the summer stated his 'desire to see out the project at WHL', and by the end was the subject of the highest ever bid for footballer in history. The balance of football is changing. Teams like Milan are no longer the powerhouses they once were as they make way for the Juventuses, Napolis and Fiorentinas of the league the same way that the Tottenham of the next few years is nowhere near the Tottenham of 10 years past. You cannot expect a player with a desire to achieve big things commit himself to a future that for all intents and purposes is highly uncertain.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...y-planning-to-spend-entire-career-at-AC-Milan

i appreciate things can change but you can't completely disregard what he has said. Also, Bale never said he wanted to stay with us for life in such explicit circumstances.
 

balalasaurus

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/...y-planning-to-spend-entire-career-at-AC-Milan

i appreciate things can change but Bale never said he wanted to stay with us for life in such explicit circumstances.
Still doesn't detract from my point. A player can say what he likes but at the end of the day we have to assume that they're on the pitch because they want to prove themselves (or that they want to collect a paycheck at the end of the week). Just a few months ago C.Ronaldo was toying with the idea of a return to his 'home' - man united. Now he claims he's found a new home in madrid. Obviously being the highest paid footballer in history had a lot to play in that about turn but it just adds to my point. Barring the few gems in the game (like daws), you cannot assume that loyalty is a given.
 

nferno

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Still doesn't detract from my point. A player can say what he likes but at the end of the day we have to assume that they're on the pitch because they want to prove themselves (or that they want to collect a paycheck at the end of the week). Just a few months ago C.Ronaldo was toying with the idea of a return to his 'home' - man united. Now he claims he's found a new home in madrid. Obviously being the highest paid footballer in history had a lot to play in that about turn but it just adds to my point. Barring the few gems in the game (like daws), you cannot assume that loyalty is a given.

I'm not assuming anything, I'm just pointing put what he has legitimately said and with that the fact that it would take something special to tempt him away or a major change of circumstances. He has the potential to be a real top drawer player, so with him becoming available and our spurs specs off do we honestly think we could tempt him when prestigious clubs like Barcelona, Munich and Madrid are in for him? Let alone when he has already made it known he'd find it hard to leave Milan.

Maybe i was wrong for saying 'definitely' as there is always a minuscule chance. But for the other reasons, personally I just don't think it will happen. As the cliché goes tough, I'd love to be proved wrong.
 
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