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Trix

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Seriously mate, a little OTT.
Systemic drug abuse over the years designed to fool the investigators versus a quick flick at the stumps.
Really?
And the ball tampering and bringing the players that cheated back into the side. I also don't buy for one second the bowlers in that side weren't at least suspicious the ball was scuffing up like it was just from the pitch despite them claiming otherwise. I'm looking at this team as a whole not just after this one minor incident.
 

jimbo

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The thing is what Dhoni did might have been done after consideration, but it set a precedent imo. 'This is what you should do in the interest of fair play'. What Dhoni did just makes what happened yesterday look far worse imo.

This current Aussie side may well have a lot of great cricketers in it, and they may well have the best side in world right now, but their ability is not what I'll remember this current Aussie side for. They will forever, in my mind at least, be the Lance Armstrong of test cricket.

The trouble for me is, if I was captaining a village cricket team, and that same thing happened - I'm not withdrawing the appeal I think. In the moment, I would want to win - and we've just taken an important wicket cheaply, within the laws.

If I had half an hour to reflect on it, I would probably realise/decide that I don't want to win in a way that has any question mark attached to it, so I'd probably speak with the other team as Dhoni did and call the batter back.

I might have to do one of those genealogy tests to see if I've got any Australasian heritage...
 

Trix

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The trouble for me is, if I was captaining a village cricket team, and that same thing happened - I'm not withdrawing the appeal I think. In the moment, I would want to win - and we've just taken an important wicket cheaply, within the laws.

If I had half an hour to reflect on it, I would probably realise/decide that I don't want to win in a way that has any question mark attached to it, so I'd probably speak with the other team as Dhoni did and call the batter back.

I might have to do one of those genealogy tests to see if I've got any Australasian heritage...
The thing is if you were playing village cricket it wouldn't have been given out because the umpire wouldn't have seen it if the circumstances were the same.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Sorry, not buying into the whole heat of the moment thing. After sandpapergate, Australia went to great lengths to make clear that going forward they were going to promote the spirit of the game, you'd see a different Australia, yatta yatta yatta...........Another Australian captain in regretful tears, even Kleenex offered to sponsor them.

They've either failed miserably in that or, as I strongly suspect, it was all a load of old pony :playful:
 

funkycoldmedina

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Sorry, not buying into the whole heat of the moment thing. After sandpapergate, Australia went to great lengths to make clear that going forward they were going to promote the spirit of the game, you'd see a different Australia, yatta yatta yatta...........Another Australian captain in regretful tears, even Kleenex offered to sponsor them.

They've either failed miserably in that or, as I strongly suspect, it was all a load of old pony :playful:
The one that surprises me is Smith,I always felt he got dragged into a pile of shit instigated by Warner. I can well imagine Warner not giving a f*@# about spirit of the game in that huddle but I would have thought Smith might have added some wisdom.
 

Barmy_in_Palmy

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Apart from the drug taking, Lance Armstrong spent years and years fucking over and ruining the lives of anyone who tried to the tell the truth about his drug taking whether that be fellow drug taking cyclists or complete innocent bystanders like Betsy Andreu. The man was a sociopath.

the Australian cricket team got an Englishman out in a completely legal and correct manner that was also twatish, dickish and just a little bit ****y.

the two are not the same.
 

Barmy_in_Palmy

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Sorry, not buying into the whole heat of the moment thing. After sandpapergate, Australia went to great lengths to make clear that going forward they were going to promote the spirit of the game, you'd see a different Australia, yatta yatta yatta...........Another Australian captain in regretful tears, even Kleenex offered to sponsor them.

They've either failed miserably in that or, as I strongly suspect, it was all a load of old pony :playful:
Nothing makes you say sorry more than getting caught.

 

thelak

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The thing is what Dhoni did might have been done after consideration, but it set a precedent imo. 'This is what you should do in the interest of fair play'. What Dhoni did just makes what happened yesterday look far worse imo.

This current Aussie side may well have a lot of great cricketers in it, and they may well have the best side in world right now, but their ability is not what I'll remember this current Aussie side for. They will forever, in my mind at least, be the Lance Armstrong of test cricket.
Nonsense
 

Scot-Spur

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I don’t understand why Bairstow isn’t getting more heat. Just wait until it’s called. Why give them the opportunity.

Would have been intriguing to see if they called say Broad back, if Stokes and Bairstow were already gone however.
 

Drink!Drink!

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It's cricket's fault for having rules AND "spirit" of the game conventions.

Seen examples of similar stumpings/run outs doing the rounds. I think the difference with this one on Bairstow is that he makes a point of placing his foot/tapping his boot into his crease before wandering off. That's a clearly accepted sign for anyone who has played cricket, saying I am not seeking to run.

Sure technically, he can be given out. Both sides have to agree the ball has been completed. But it's not a "proper" run out or stumping. And that what makes it look like shithousery
 

Gb160

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Apart from the drug taking, Lance Armstrong spent years and years fucking over and ruining the lives of anyone who tried to the tell the truth about his drug taking whether that be fellow drug taking cyclists or complete innocent bystanders like Betsy Andreu. The man was a sociopath.

the Australian cricket team got an Englishman out in a completely legal and correct manner that was also twatish, dickish and just a little bit ****y.

the two are not the same.
Yesterday's incident wasn't... but the ball tampering 'incident' is very much in the same league as Armstrong imo.
It was pre-planned, orchestrated cheating... there's no difference.
Should remember as well they got caught doing it once... so god knows how long the ****s had been doing it and getting away with it..you'd be very naive to believe that was the first time.
 

LSUY

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It's cricket's fault for having rules AND "spirit" of the game conventions.

Seen examples of similar stumpings/run outs doing the rounds. I think the difference with this one on Bairstow is that he makes a point of placing his foot/tapping his boot into his crease before wandering off. That's a clearly accepted sign for anyone who has played cricket, saying I am not seeking to run.

Sure technically, he can be given out. Both sides have to agree the ball has been completed. But it's not a "proper" run out or stumping. And that what makes it look like shithousery
Most sports have them. Look at football and if you put the ball out for an injury you should get it back from the resulting throw-in. Breaking that "spirit" of the game led to an FA Cup tie having to be replayed.
 

Scot-Spur

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Most sports have them. Look at football and if you put the ball out for an injury you should get it back from the resulting throw-in. Breaking that "spirit" of the game led to an FA Cup tie having to be replayed.
But then the same could be said for diving? Would anyone in here complain if Kane dived and the resulting peno one is the Champions league?
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I wonder how it's being received down there. Australia's coach says there's 'not much wrong' with what happened, which is fine until one of the 'not much' is playing fucking fair.

Honestly it's mind boggling.
 
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