The Cricket Thread
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Now that Sunak has said it wasn't okay, I'm very much minded to think it was definitely okay
McFlash
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Well that's just nothing like the incident that just happened, nothing like it at all.
McFlash
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Do you really need this explaining to you?
Bloody hell.
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Sunak will be "wading in" because as a cricket fan, he was probably asked about it.
He was on View From The Boundary at lunch the other day, so I would think he's commenting as an English cricket fan, rather than the bloody Prime Minister.
That's nonsense. Standing outside your crease deliberately is completely different to leaving your crease because you think the ball is dead. Trying to equivocate between the two is just laughable.
Labuschagne stands out of the crease on purpose in order to reach the ball earlier and give himself an advantage in playing the ball. Bairstow thinks the over has been called and is going for a chat with Stokes.
If you think the 2 events are the same you are either being willfully obtuse or you just don't understand cricket.
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Based on how the Aussies are responding on this, I hope we Mankad the f**k out of them at Headingley
It has been explained. You just don't like the explanation.
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You might be right that the internet in general is toxic at the moment.
But in this case, the only person not offering debate is you. Your best offering is to just quote someone and say "JFC".
The video has been posted before and people have explained why it's completely different.
You clearly haven't read those points otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to post the video again.
IamSpurtacus
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Bairstow didn’t ground his bat - you’re taught to do that at school and wait for it to be called over
it wasn’t called over
to suggest “they’re not the same” is not true
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McFlash
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Well, from what I can make of that clip, it was the wicky throwing down at the stumps because the batsman could have been out of his crease.
All pretty quick and in the same period of play.
It was quite obvious that at the end of the over, JB had tapped his bat, done a bit of gardening and wandered off for a chat with his partner.
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In every way. You obviously don’t know much about cricket.
IamSpurtacus
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Bairstow did reground himself in the crease. And he only left the crease because he thought the ball was dead. That is not the same as deliberately standing outside the crease to play the ball. Everyone who has played cricket knows this.
The Aussies are only pretending its the same to excuse their shitty behaviour.
Technically they are both stumpings yes, but that does not mean they are the same type of event.
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Them being fine with it and comparing those two 'stumpings' are very different things
IamSpurtacus
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Bairstow's quick, and single swipe of his crease with his foot from 20 yards back wouldn't have been obvious to Carey, who caught the ball and threw back in the same motion. It's not like he waited
McFlash
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Says the chap handing out neg reps to people with a different opinion to his on this.
If you can't take people disagreeing with you when you're trying to use an example that is completely different to the one being discussed, then get all snowflake about it, maybe this isn't the place for you mate.
IamSpurtacus
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The neg reps are there to be used if you disagree. Or are you suggesting no one should use them? I'm not using them any differently than anyone else
"Snowflake about it" - it's this kind of personalization that i really hate
It's possible to discuss without making assumptions or being personally insulting - "You obviously know nothing about cricket" is just one such example - that just makes the whole tenor of debate so unnecessarily unpleasant
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Yes, but Carey knew that Bairstow would only leave his crease there because he thought the ball would be dead. It's clever but shitty. And Cummings could still have called the batsman back or refused the appeal.
He could also have been honest about it after the game rather than hiding behind false equivalences and technicalities.
