The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 1st August 2014

[Dirty Ewok]

Just in case anyone was doubting Levy's powers this window, Sporting Lisbon's press release is a good read. Not negative at all, oh no!

"Sporting Clube de Portugal announces that during [July] the club started negotiations with Eric Dier over the renewal of his contract," the statement read.
"Unexpectedly, Sporting were confronted by the father and the official representative of the player with a transfer offer from Tottenham Hotspur, who referred to the current administration an agreement signed by previous directors and administrators, which obliged a sale of the player for a sum not exceeding €5m, or for [Sporting] to equal the proposed salary, which is impossible due to the wage structure in place, the ongoing financial restructuring and necessary sustainability of the club.
"Additionally, Sporting were informed that the player does not want to stay at the club even if the proposed salary was matched. And even if Sporting received a superior offer, whether in terms of a transfer bid or salary, from another club the player would not accept it.
"Given the constraints outlined above, Sporting announces the sale of all economic rights for the player Eric Dier to Tottenham Hotspur, for the value of €5m net, without any future rights or guarantee.
"Sporting wishes Eric Dier all the best in his career."

Part of this feels like the first deal i have seen that actually involved everyone in the group....

I could see Poch saying "I think there would be benefit to bringing in a young CB to develop behind the veterans."

Broomfield saying "uh, i know a kid you may have heard of him...Eric Dier...here are all the scouting reports i have compiled and 15 hours of film"

Baldini saying "i talked to a few people and turns out he has a ridiculous clause in his contract with Sporting that we could exploit."

and then Levy telling them to run with it.....

 

[Gb160]

I think we can add Sporting to the list of clubs that hate us and probably never want to deal with us again. Unfortunately these things have a tendency to come back and bite you in the ass, thankfully we have our partnership with Madrid to fall back on.

Wolves don’t lose sleep over the opinions of sheep
We get fucked over by this 'food chain' every now and again.....virtually every club does.

 

[HappySpur]

Happy, please can you post it again so that I can rate it "funny" and "winner"!

I have finished four others, with some great help from Stoof, Stoof, Stoof, Stoof and even Stoof* So I will actually repost soon. But only when I have the other 5 done. It will be an article on the front page.

When I started this I thought it would be fairly simple. Just chasing down the details of Zokora took me nearly six hours.

* also SS57, Bizness, Rob, Ever,A&C, BoF and BO.

 

[atoubasrightfoot]

What happened to POTL?

Operation yew tree

 

[THFCSPURS19]

So what really happend with POTL

As part of an article I'm about half way through concerning the best moments of ITK during SC's first 10 years, I have completed the draft of Blue and Yellow



5) I See a carnival of colors.....all grey and brown and grey

Phantom of the Lane or POTL was a stalwart of a fellow forum, COYS, for a number of years. Rumored to be Levy himself or a Donna Cullen stooge or the tea lady at QPR (by me) or any number of people in-between, he was considered one of the best ITK for a stretch of time. But chinks in his armor appeared in 2011. It started with a quick reference to rumors about Joe Cole and Jamie O'Hara, where he ended his post with the now infamous "blue and yellow".

It was a cryptic and cryptics, which you will see occasionally, tend to cause meltdowns among ITK consuming fans.

Those two colours would come to dominate the summer transfer window of 2011 and even blight the summer of 2012 and would become synonymous with POTL on a handful of internet forums. The speculation on who the cryptic refereed to spiraled out of control.

Do you combine them to make green so that it had to be Muammar Khadaffi's son Al-Saadi? Was it a Swedish player, when Sweden only produces shitty furniture and shittier pop-bands? Was he racist and referring to an Asian with one of them, even though it was so not-PC to refer to the fact that Asians go into violent rampages when the see the color blue? Were we signing a smurf? Was yellow a reference to Coldplay and maybe Apple was going to be our next sponsor?

Despite this, he would reference the colours nearly a dozen more times that summer and countless times more in the 27 months that followed that initial post.

It would lead in August of 2011, to his now infamous showdown with Peanut, a fellow ITK at COYS. Peanut claimed that POTL was using blue for any player that suited his needs and POTL politely disagreed. Nothing happened that required the COYS staff to get involved.

For the next two years, due to blue and yellow, he would suffer from credibility issues, despite a pretty good record during that time. But his posting took a more defensive tone.

Then last summer, it all ended when Willian was forced by Anzi, at gunpoint some say, to go to Chelsea as part of Abromovich's need to overpay for washed up legends that had once played in Italy. This time it was Samuel Eto'o, who wouldn't come without Willian, the only person that listened when Eto'o would go on one of his rants about supply-side economics.

POTL last logged on August 22nd of last year. At that time, he was seeking to assure people around the Chelsea derailment story surrounding Willian

As well all know, Chelsea did end up hijacking our bid for the Brazilian. And the response by fans was to hang POTL in effigy, as if he had lied. In fact, as the story was revealed later, it was quite obvious he was telling the truth. Everyone at Tottenham felt very strong about the signing, specifically because he was having his medical with us when everything went tits up. But POTL never returned.

Links i need
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/update-339-the-itk-fight-of-ol-coystown.76907/
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/update-86-potl-qpr-cole-and-ohara.74637/
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/update-318-potl-re-ssn-willian.101040/

Can't wait to read the full article

 

[THFCSPURS19]

And even if Sporting received a superior offer, whether in terms of a transfer bid or salary, from another club the player would not accept it.

YIDDO!!!

 

[vicbob]

Operation yew tree

Thought it was Ben up a tree!

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

JJ's willingness to discuss our interest in Musacchio gives me hope that is at least a good possibility. Won't come cheap. Goal reckon 15m. I'd be surprised if it were less than 20m.

Surely Villareal owe us one after the way they tried to (not sure if they succeeded) stitch us with the sell-on percentage of dos Santos from Mallorca?!

Aren't i right in thinking they bought two players from Mallorca at the same time and paid more for the other one than Gio so that Mallorca kept more of the money

 

[ohwhenthespurs]

Surely Villareal owe us one after the way they tried to (not sure if they succeeded) stitch us with the sell-on percentage of dos Santos from Mallorca?!

Aren't i right in thinking they bought two players from Mallorca at the same time and paid more for the other one than Gio so that Mallorca kept more of the money

Doesn't sound like the sort of thing we'd do at all *cough, Davies and Vorm from Swansea *cough

 

[indianspurs]

"We are looking for the best for Osvaldo and the best for the club. Taider brings quality and we need that. We need competition in the squad as well and that will be good.

Sounds like a replacement for Schneiderlin so hopefully some new ITK on him soon

 

[Barry Mead]

So what really happend with POTL

As part of an article I'm about half way through concerning the best moments of ITK during SC's first 10 years, I have completed the draft of Blue and Yellow



5) I See a carnival of colors.....all grey and brown and grey

Phantom of the Lane or POTL was a stalwart of a fellow forum, COYS, for a number of years. Rumored to be Levy himself or a Donna Cullen stooge or the tea lady at QPR (by me) or any number of people in-between, he was considered one of the best ITK for a stretch of time. But chinks in his armor appeared in 2011. It started with a quick reference to rumors about Joe Cole and Jamie O'Hara, where he ended his post with the now infamous "blue and yellow".

It was a cryptic and cryptics, which you will see occasionally, tend to cause meltdowns among ITK consuming fans.

Those two colours would come to dominate the summer transfer window of 2011 and even blight the summer of 2012 and would become synonymous with POTL on a handful of internet forums. The speculation on who the cryptic refereed to spiraled out of control.

Do you combine them to make green so that it had to be Muammar Khadaffi's son Al-Saadi? Was it a Swedish player, when Sweden only produces shitty furniture and shittier pop-bands? Was he racist and referring to an Asian with one of them, even though it was so not-PC to refer to the fact that Asians go into violent rampages when the see the color blue? Were we signing a smurf? Was yellow a reference to Coldplay and maybe Apple was going to be our next sponsor?

Despite this, he would reference the colours nearly a dozen more times that summer and countless times more in the 27 months that followed that initial post.

It would lead in August of 2011, to his now infamous showdown with Peanut, a fellow ITK at COYS. Peanut claimed that POTL was using blue for any player that suited his needs and POTL politely disagreed. Nothing happened that required the COYS staff to get involved.

For the next two years, due to blue and yellow, he would suffer from credibility issues, despite a pretty good record during that time. But his posting took a more defensive tone.

Then last summer, it all ended when Willian was forced by Anzi, at gunpoint some say, to go to Chelsea as part of Abromovich's need to overpay for washed up legends that had once played in Italy. This time it was Samuel Eto'o, who wouldn't come without Willian, the only person that listened when Eto'o would go on one of his rants about supply-side economics.

POTL last logged on August 22nd of last year. At that time, he was seeking to assure people around the Chelsea derailment story surrounding Willian

As well all know, Chelsea did end up hijacking our bid for the Brazilian. And the response by fans was to hang POTL in effigy, as if he had lied. In fact, as the story was revealed later, it was quite obvious he was telling the truth. Everyone at Tottenham felt very strong about the signing, specifically because he was having his medical with us when everything went tits up. But POTL never returned.

Links i need
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/update-339-the-itk-fight-of-ol-coystown.76907/
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/update-86-potl-qpr-cole-and-ohara.74637/
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/update-318-potl-re-ssn-willian.101040/

I think everyone would have been prepared to accept POTL was pretty much right on the Willian call, but he blotted his copy book by giving it the big 'un when someone posted the reports that the Chavs were trying to get him. He posted something to the effect of who are you going to believe me or some hack? something to that affect. That was the thing that made him look a mug rather than the fact that they did snatch Willian from under our noses, any sympathy anyone might have had dissipated because he effectively was the one that mugged himself off

That coming on top of an argument with Peanut (for me the best ITK I have known over the years) that caused Peanut to say he wouldn't bother posting again to save arguments and the Blue Yellow colour coordinated confusion, of course there were doubts, it could have been anyone, but how come one was known by the colour of his club shirt and one by his International shirt always created a doubt

Anyway keep up the good work it sounds an amusing look back

 

[Stoof]

I have finished four others, with some great help from people like SS57, Bizness, Rob, Ever and BO. So I will actually repost soon. But only when I have the other 5 done. It will be an article on the front page.

When I started this I thought it would be fairly simple. Just chasing down the details of Zokora took me nearly six hours.

Fuck you. Fuck you in the face.

 

[HappySpur]

Fuck you. Fuck you in the face.

That made me laugh like a crazy person at work

Sorry mate. I fixed it


But to my defense, you responded to my inital copy of the Ben section, which included the following

Besides dogging staff and players, the other, more obvious front against the establishment, has been his persistent war on grammar and the Queen's English. Or as Ben would post, "De oven morph ez-ist atak ginst thems in cherge have ben hip war on graham whores..."

with

You need to reference the poor spelling, grammar and general confusion that surround BEN.

Timestamped 2 hours after my draft had been sent. So......

 

[robertgoulet]

Sorry mate. I fixed it

If you're handing out PR, I want some puff for being the mushy brain behind this terribly time consuming and entertaining idea (otherwise known as the begger who wants you to make me a bicycle, clown!)!

 

[HappySpur]

Best rating ever

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Fuck you. Fuck you in the face.

Sounds like the sort of answer that A&C is likely to give when asked "seriously, WTF do you want?"....

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Best rating ever

Proof that the sun does indeed shine on a dogs arse occasionally

 

[barry]

The abuse POTL got after Willian was disgusting. People want those in the know to give them information before a transfer is finalised yet cannot accept the uncertainty that comes with that. Transfers involve many parties and therefore several obstacles. One being competition.

If you only want info when it's "done", go on official site. In Willian's case, it was blatantly far advanced. Fee was agreed, terms were agreed and the player was undertaking a medical. 99% of transfers are completed from this stage so those in the know, acted on more than good faith. The idiots who couldn't accept this have hounded out a decent person who was kind enough to supply information.

I hope he/she is kind enough to return.

But he was an absolute fucking cock. I hated the way he mocked other ITKs when their info didn't correlate with his, and he generally had a pompous way about him. He obviously had a few haters (including me) as his demise was celebrated as heartily as it was mourned.
I think his source left with Harry, but he kept on playing us because of the adoration he received. If my memory serves the only 'ITK' he served up after Senior Redknapp had gone was once a player had been linked by other reputable ITKs, was in all the papers, had been spotted on instagram coming to the training centre and was just about to sign. Then he would release some info saying so and so will sign, and his apologists would still come out in droves and say Phantom only releases info when he's sure. Best ITK ever. Now we can be sure it's done. Embarrassing really. Anyone could of done that.
That's why I like JJ. Obviously the best ITK, but never lauds it over the masses, just passes on what he hears. Very Zen.

I feel better now.

 

[Farms14]

Sandro is in pictures with Holtby on their way to Finland. He's at least making the squad for this flight. I guess if one of Paulinho, Capoue or Dembele are not present, that may be more revealing.

Paulinho has not even returned to training yet so he will not be in the squad. It is on the OS say he is the last member of the World Cup players not to return to training yet as he had extra time due to reaching the Semi's, he is due back Monday 4th Aug

 

[yankspurs]

The abuse POTL got after Willian was disgusting. People want those in the know to give them information before a transfer is finalised yet cannot accept the uncertainty that comes with that. Transfers involve many parties and therefore several obstacles. One being competition.

If you only want info when it's "done", go on official site. In Willian's case, it was blatantly far advanced. Fee was agreed, terms were agreed and the player was undertaking a medical. 99% of transfers are completed from this stage so those in the know, acted on more than good faith. The idiots who couldn't accept this have hounded out a decent person who was kind enough to supply information.

I hope he/she is kind enough to return.

Bring back POTL! POTL '14!

As for Naughton, if we sell him, hope we have a replacement lined up. Not sure Fredericks is ready to back up Walker yet. And we need an actual RB to do the job. Not a center half who can do both like Vlad, Kaboul and Dier. Cheeky hijack for Yedlin?