The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 6th January 2015

[mw828]

We need a player now let's get him

We have 3 strikers. If we need a player, it isn't really a striker unless we move on Ade or Soldado first.

 

[prawnsandwich]

You don't need to have the 8, you can have any number of home grown players from 25 to 0. We currently have a 23 man squad with 6 home grown players. If we want to add more above U21 non-home grown players need to sell one of our 17 non-home grown players first.

Or, of course, drop 1 or 2 from the squad. Ceballos is out of favour and some have said we should remove Friedel. I don't agree with that. I wonder if Deandre appreciates him being around or is he too "dad-ish?"

 

[THFCSPURS19]

We have 3 strikers. If we need a player, it isn't really a striker unless we move on Ade or Soldado first.

This is a joke, right? We have one striker that can't score and another that's out of favour and doesn't really care. How can anyone think we don't need a striker?

 

[Lilbaz]

A central plank of your post is that the increase in TV revenues can be spent on wages - can I check that you know that PL clubs have agreed to limit the amount of TV money which can be spent on wages ' Clubs whose total wage bill is more than £52m will only be allowed to increase their wages by £4m per season for the next three years'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-ratify-Financial-Fair-Play-regulations.html

So bringing in new players (with PL sized wages) is restricted by these rules.

But the restrictions only apply to the income from TV money — so any income from sponsorship deals or tickets sale can still be spent on wages.

 

[TH1239]

A central plank of your post is that the increase in TV revenues can be spent on wages - can I check that you know that PL clubs have agreed to limit the amount of TV money which can be spent on wages ' Clubs whose total wage bill is more than £52m will only be allowed to increase their wages by £4m per season for the next three years'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-ratify-Financial-Fair-Play-regulations.html

So bringing in new players (with PL sized wages) is restricted by these rules.

I understand that, but that restriction doesn't mean you can't re-allocate money from other revenue streams towards wage increases and use the television money for transfer fees and other expenditures. How else could West Ham's wage bill increase 7+ million pounds in their just released annual financial report for 2014? Or how about Everton, who while posting a post-tax profit of 27.2 million pounds for 2014, also had a wage bill increase of 6.3 million pounds (see the charts here: http://swissramble.blogspot.com/).

 

[Ledleys Knee]

We have 3 strikers. If we need a player, it isn't really a striker unless we move on Ade or Soldado first.

We've got 3 RWFs. We could let one of those go (say Lennon, as rumoured) and then use Ings primarily as a LWF (where we only have one - Chadli) this season

 

[TEESSIDE1]

We have 3 strikers. If we need a player, it isn't really a striker unless we move on Ade or Soldado first.

Having 3 strikers is irrelevant if 2 of them can't be relied on... even more so when one of them would be more at home in a padded room than on a football pitch at the moment. An injury to Kane and we're in the sh*t. Ings for £9m is a no brainer.

 

[cockeral]

Still think a midfielder who can recycle the ball quickly is the no.1 priority over a striker. As yesterday proved we desperately missed Mason's desire and ability to move the ball quickly.

 

[ggibbs1971]

Looks like Danny Ings is available, and want to come to Spurs. Trix says 9 million and he will come.

 

[Monkey boy]

Not a chance in hell that we are paying £9 million for a player with 6 months left on his contract. People saying that others will be after him in the summer, yeah? Like who? None of the top 4 will want him so it's down to the likes of us, Liverpool, Southampton, Newcastle etc and I fancy our chances of heading that particular queue as it stands.

 

[ItsBoris]

Not a chance in hell that we are paying £9 million for a player with 6 months left on his contract. People saying that others will be after him in the summer, yeah? Like who? None of the top 4 will want him so it's down to the likes of us, Liverpool, Southampton, Newcastle etc and I fancy our chances of heading that particular queue as it stands.

Yep, it would essentially be like paying 9 million for a 5 month loan.

About 3 million would be a fair price.

 

[shelfboy68]

Not a chance in hell that we are paying £9 million for a player with 6 months left on his contract. People saying that others will be after him in the summer, yeah? Like who? None of the top 4 will want him so it's down to the likes of us, Liverpool, Southampton, Newcastle etc and I fancy our chances of heading that particular queue as it stands.

But we need someone now summer is No good we may well miss out on success this season if we do Fuck all about it just because of money again.

 

[prawnsandwich]

Not a chance in hell that we are paying £9 million for a player with 6 months left on his contract. People saying that others will be after him in the summer, yeah? Like who? None of the top 4 will want him so it's down to the likes of us, Liverpool, Southampton, Newcastle etc and I fancy our chances of heading that particular queue as it stands.

Exactly. And if we aspire to be top 4 why should we be "after him?"

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Looks like Danny Ings is available, and want to come to Spurs. Trix says 9 million and he will come.

Thats a ridiculous amount to pay for a player who is out of contract in 6 months. That's pretty much like saying he will be worth £30m. He looks a decent prospect but not £30m decent.

 

[bceej]

Not a chance in hell that we are paying £9 million for a player with 6 months left on his contract. People saying that others will be after him in the summer, yeah? Like who? None of the top 4 will want him so it's down to the likes of us, Liverpool, Southampton, Newcastle etc and I fancy our chances of heading that particular queue as it stands.

He's a Southampton fan, and they are very much in amongst the mix.

 

[Spursidol]

I understand that, but that restriction doesn't mean you can't re-allocate money from other revenue streams towards wage increases and use the television money for transfer fees and other expenditures. How else could West Ham's wage bill increase 7+ million pounds in their just released annual financial report for 2014? Or how about Everton, who while posting a post-tax profit of 27.2 million pounds for 2014, also had a wage bill increase of 6.3 million pounds (see the charts here: http://swissramble.blogspot.com/).

Sure, but you were referring to the increase in TV revenues - which is the fastest growing revenue at all PL clubs.

So it means we can only use £4m of that increase for new wages - but obviously any spare money from sponsorship etc can be used on wages, but given that many PL clubs (including Spurs) haven't been making much in the way of profits, there isn't much flexibility there except for increases in those revenue streams.

 

[prawnsandwich]

He's a Southampton fan, and they are very much in amongst the mix.

Soton makes sense. He could make a rep there and be as successful as Lambert maybe.

 

[Nanky_1988]

We've got 3 RWFs. We could let one of those go (say Lennon, as rumoured) and then use Ings primarily as a LWF (where we only have one - Chadli) this season

Ings is a striker if you want a LWF surely go for Rodriguez or Kono?

 

[Darrkespur]

Thats a ridiculous amount to pay for a player who is out of contract in 6 months. That's pretty much like saying he will be worth £30m. He looks a decent prospect but not £30m decent.

He's not a Bosman though as he's so young, so he won't be much less than that in compensation in the summer. I'd say 7M is a fairer price but Burnley really need him to stay up so I don't think it's too unreasonable.

 

[thinktank]

Not a chance in hell that we are paying £9 million for a player with 6 months left on his contract. People saying that others will be after him in the summer, yeah? Like who? None of the top 4 will want him so it's down to the likes of us, Liverpool, Southampton, Newcastle etc and I fancy our chances of heading that particular queue as it stands.

Didn't realise that. That's extortionate,